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Vladimir Putin’s Busy, Bloody, and Expensive 2019

Rogue Valley said:
Take your tired act back to 55 Savushkina Street.
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The op is required to back up their op claim, you have failed to do such and have resorted to numerous logical fallacies to back yourself up. The mere fact you claim to be right yet have went to such extreme lengths to avoid backng up your claim while I linked mine shows you are completely and utterly wrong and will fight to the end before admitting you were wrong..
 
Rogue Valley said:
You're no Mod, and no one follows your make-believe rules.
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For one it is not a make believe rule, it is a common debate rule spanning all forms of debate, there is no mod rule to enforce it, however by general debate rules you by default lose by refusing to back the claims in the op, as the op is required to prove his claim and not everyones task to disprove it or prove it.
 
beerftw said:
For one it is not a make believe rule, it is a common debate rule spanning all forms of debate, there is no mod rule to enforce it, however by general debate rules you by default lose by refusing to back the claims in the op, as the op is required to prove his claim and not everyones task to disprove it or prove it.
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Go ahead then, report it. I didn't make a Putinista happy.

Good luck with that lol.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Go ahead then, report it. I didn't make a Putinista happy.

Good luck with that lol.
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There is no reporting it, it is just generally understood rules, and simply makes you the loser of the debate, and you could just as easily have said you had nothing to back it up a long time ago and saved face.
 
beerftw said:
There is no reporting it, it is just generally understood rules, and simply makes you the loser of the debate, and you could just as easily have said you had nothing to back it up a long time ago and saved face.
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The OP stands on its own. If you don't like the message, tuff nutz.
 
beerftw said:
You could just admit it was wrong since it clearly does not stand o it's own.
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Not wrong at all. Tired of accommodating you Putinista's. You have a computer. Use it. Dig up your supporting citations.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Not wrong at all. Tired of accommodating you Putinista's. You have a computer. Use it. Dig up your supporting citations.
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so you can not back up your op in the slightest and are intent on digging yourself into a deeper hole, gotcha:mrgreen:
 
beerftw said:
so you can not back up your op in the slightest and are intent on digging yourself into a deeper hole, gotcha:mrgreen:
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The OP is my assertions. You have yet to debunk anything. If you disagree with the OP, it's up to you to post citations and disprove it.

At Post #60, and you still can't do that.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The OP is my assertions. You have yet to debunk anything. If you disagree with the OP, it's up to you to post citations and disprove it.

At Post #60, and you still can't do that.
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That is not how debates work, that is demanding a negative be proven, you could just say you had no proof or backing that russia refused to pay for water for crimea, and be done with it.
 
beerftw said:
That is not how debates work, that is demanding a negative be proven, you could just say you had no proof or backing that russia refused to pay for water for crimea, and be done with it.
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That's how it works here bub. You disagree with the OP, explain why and deliver supporting citations from credible sources.
 
Rogue Valley said:
That's how it works here bub. You disagree with the OP, explain why and deliver supporting citations from credible sources.
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I have been here longer than you and no it has never worked that way, that is you demanding the norm change to accomodate the fact you made a claim that was false and are going out of your way to admit you are wrong.
 
beerftw said:
I have been here longer than you and no it has never worked that way, that is you demanding the norm change to accomodate the fact you made a claim that was false and are going out of your way to admit you are wrong.
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Not sure that RV and his cheerleaders understand debate. The Crimea water story is literally blatantly a fake and totally disingenuous.


They flood the forum with fake news and anti Russian perspectives, hold it out as gospel truth, and denounce anyone daring to question it.


I hope one day that you will finally grasp who is really trying to debate constructively on this forum, but thus far you seem unable to countenance the idea that anyone from Russia could possibly be worthy. This reflects the degree to which blind Russia hate has permeated even sensible thinkers like yourself.
 
Westphalian said:
Not sure that RV and his cheerleaders understand debate. The Crimea water story is literally blatantly a fake and totally disingenuous.


They flood the forum with fake news and anti Russian perspectives, hold it out as gospel truth, and denounce anyone daring to question it.


I hope one day that you will finally grasp who is really trying to debate constructively on this forum, but thus far you seem unable to countenance the idea that anyone from Russia could possibly be worthy. This reflects the degree to which blind Russia hate has permeated even sensible thinkers like yourself.
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The West is dying, and we did it to ourselves.

*SEE SIG*
 
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