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Huddersfield: 20 strong grooming gang jailed

Infinite Chaos

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Twenty men have been found guilty of being part of a grooming gang that raped and abused girls as young as 11 in Huddersfield.

The men were convicted of more than 120 offences against 15 girls.
Victims were plied with drink and drugs and then "used and abused at will" in a seven-year "campaign of rape and abuse" between 2004 and 2011.
Link.

Just horrible.
These sickening stories need to be told and *policies have to change. All the paedophiles are Pakistani heritage - probably from the Mirpur region - and probably part of wider networks as many victims in the past spoke of being trafficked down to other towns to be raped by similar gangs.

Disclaimer - yes, I know type 1 paedophilia is still the most common paedophile crime and I know single white men (usually known to the victim) are still the greatest sexual danger to children.

*Policies - 1. do something about how vulnerable young girls were not believed when they tried to tell their stories 2. do something about the care system so they are not forgotten or end up on the streets so easily 3. challenge cultural upbringing and reeducate young men from Pakistani backgrounds about life in western liberal nations 4. specialist police officers or units to deal with and seek out these gangs across the country.
 
Just horrible.
These sickening stories need to be told and *policies have to change. All the paedophiles are Pakistani heritage - probably from the Mirpur region - and probably part of wider networks as many victims in the past spoke of being trafficked down to other towns to be raped by similar gangs.

Disclaimer - yes, I know type 1 paedophilia is still the most common paedophile crime and I know single white men (usually known to the victim) are still the greatest sexual danger to children.

*Policies - 1. do something about how vulnerable young girls were not believed when they tried to tell their stories 2. do something about the care system so they are not forgotten or end up on the streets so easily 3. challenge cultural upbringing and reeducate young men from Pakistani backgrounds about life in western liberal nations 4. specialist police officers or units to deal with and seek out these gangs across the country.

Yet we are going to see people come out in the defense of these men, or the society that helps create groups such as this. I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually the number 1 for common pedophilic crime. It's just the amount of protected information involved in these cases repeatedly skew the board. Not to mention the fact that they are incentivized to not use the perpetrators nationality in their reports.

I'm glad that it brought up Tommy Robinson, because he was arrested on reporting about information that had already been released. So there was no reason for them to actually arrest him in the scope of the trial.

These are the kind of criminals that should be shot in he head after the trial and given a grave to share with the rest of their ilk.
 
A scandal so shocking that even mainstream UK media are questioning how something like this happened in a so called civilised society on such a scale, for so long, and with the establishment covering it all up. Whilst the liberal media got all worked up about #metoo in Hollywood, they generally ignored the mass rape of children under their noses. To this day, nobody in the police or social services has been punished for deliberately ignoring the plight and pleas of thee children.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/what-rotherham-means/

The revelations of unhindered Muslim sex-trafficking of thousands of young girls in British towns, including Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, are so gross and shocking, so monstrous, and on such a scale as to actually make response or comment difficult, except to point out that they display Britain – or a significant part of it – as a failed and broken culture. The most shocking aspect, of course, is the craven failure on a staggering scale of the very institutions part of whose raison d’être is precisely to prevent such things: the police, the social work industries, the local government bodies, and probably, at least in some cases, parents (certainly some parents seem to have done their best, and quite properly approached the authorities, only to be ignored).

The sickening, Eloi-like passivity with which the police and social-workers behaved for fear of being accused of racism indicates mass cowardice and moral corruption on a scale again difficult to describe. The more that is revealed about this scandal the worse it seems. It is not too much to call it the worst British public/political scandal in modern history.
 
A scandal so shocking that even mainstream UK media are questioning how something like this happened in a so called civilised society on such a scale, for so long, and with the establishment covering it all up. Whilst the liberal media got all worked up about #metoo in Hollywood, they generally ignored the mass rape of children under their noses. To this day, nobody in the police or social services has been punished for deliberately ignoring the plight and pleas of thee children.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/06/what-rotherham-means/

The revelations of unhindered Muslim sex-trafficking of thousands of young girls in British towns, including Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, are so gross and shocking, so monstrous, and on such a scale as to actually make response or comment difficult, except to point out that they display Britain – or a significant part of it – as a failed and broken culture. The most shocking aspect, of course, is the craven failure on a staggering scale of the very institutions part of whose raison d’être is precisely to prevent such things: the police, the social work industries, the local government bodies, and probably, at least in some cases, parents (certainly some parents seem to have done their best, and quite properly approached the authorities, only to be ignored).

The sickening, Eloi-like passivity with which the police and social-workers behaved for fear of being accused of racism indicates mass cowardice and moral corruption on a scale again difficult to describe. The more that is revealed about this scandal the worse it seems. It is not too much to call it the worst British public/political scandal in modern history.
 
This is the sort of thing that causes leaders to lose their followers to people like Trump.
 
That’s in England.........done by Pakistanis.......why do you care now?
 
This is the sort of thing that causes leaders to lose their followers to people like Trump.

Is it too late to elect Nigel Farage? I haven't seen a better spokesman for the interests of the British than him. He's precisely the kind of truth teller the British media, intelligentsia, and governmental bureaucracy despise, i.e. those responsible for creating and fostering the rape epidemic in Britain.
 
Yet we are going to see people come out in the defense of these men, or the society that helps create groups such as this. I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually the number 1 for common pedophilic crime. It's just the amount of protected information involved in these cases repeatedly skew the board. Not to mention the fact that they are incentivized to not use the perpetrators nationality in their reports.

I'm glad that it brought up Tommy Robinson, because he was arrested on reporting about information that had already been released. So there was no reason for them to actually arrest him in the scope of the trial.

These are the kind of criminals that should be shot in he head after the trial and given a grave to share with the rest of their ilk.

Well written Oborosen. I suspect those who led the cheerleading for large masses of migration from the Islamic world will not even bother commenting on such stories anymore. They've seemed to have lost interest in the subject, or don't want to be bothered with the messy realities anymore. I'm pretty burnt out on the subject myself, after years of trying to warn people of the dangers inherent in mixing 1st millennia cultures with first world nations.
 
Is it too late to elect Nigel Farage? I haven't seen a better spokesman for the interests of the British than him. He's precisely the kind of truth teller the British media, intelligentsia, and governmental bureaucracy despise, i.e. those responsible for creating and fostering the rape epidemic in Britain.

IDK but when there is complete breakdown of the governments duties like here and with the Transbay Transit Center in San Francisco there tend to be very long term consequences.

Those are confidence shaking events.
 
Well written Oborosen. I suspect those who led the cheerleading for large masses of migration from the Islamic world will not even bother commenting on such stories anymore. They've seemed to have lost interest in the subject, or don't want to be bothered with the messy realities anymore. I'm pretty burnt out on the subject myself, after years of trying to warn people of the dangers inherent in mixing 1st millennia cultures with first world nations.

It burns people out because the moment you mention the word culture, someone points a figure and either calls you an islamophobe, or just a plain racist and that gets pretty tiring after a while.

Especially when they can't define why you're an islamophobe, or racist.
 
IDK but when there is complete breakdown of the governments duties like here and with the Transbay Transit Center in San Francisco there tend to be very long term consequences.

Those are confidence shaking events.

I thought you were up in WA Hawk? I would have posted about the Transbay debacle if I had thought more people here would be interested. There's surprisingly not that many Bay Area residents on the site, almost none who want to actually discuss topics about the bay.
 
I thought you were up in WA Hawk? I would have posted about the Transbay debacle if I had thought more people here would be interested. There's surprisingly not that many Bay Area residents on the site, almost none who want to actually discuss topics about the bay.
My wife was stationed at DLI 3 different times for a total of 5.5 years, plus my boy and I had a thing where we would take the Coast Starlight down for a long weekend...I pay attention to SF.

I started a tread on this disaster in the West Forum that got no action....if you are interested come see me....cause I sure am. The latest law suit was just filed.
 
The most atrocious aspect of this sordid affair is that the policies that Infinite Chaos outlines in the first post were not created and followed. The second most atrocious aspect having been (and possibly still being) the utter complacency in which the whole social community was ignored, on the unspoken policy of best keeping out of the sink estate parts of town(s) and leaving inhabitants to their own devices.

Like "there are places you not only never want to go to, but never want to know about either"; propelled not only by the media but widely perceived in that manner by larger parts of the public.

The third largest atrocity lies in the current take of "we "should" have known" when it iis quite apparent that we "could" have known. And one can only hope that today it doesn't end there with public outrage now sufficiently expressed so as to allow everyone to go home again.

In comparison to that, the hypocrisy of the vultures now here again and flocking to the carrion, pales.
 
My wife was stationed at DLI 3 different times for a total of 5.5 years, plus my boy and I had a thing where we would take the Coast Starlight down for a long weekend...I pay attention to SF.

I started a tread on this disaster in the West Forum that got no action....if you are interested come see me....cause I sure am. The latest law suit was just filed.

Will do, thanks for the tip.
 
Is it too late to elect Nigel Farage? I haven't seen a better spokesman for the interests of the British than him. He's precisely the kind of truth teller the British media, intelligentsia, and governmental bureaucracy despise, i.e. those responsible for creating and fostering the rape epidemic in Britain.

uh, no
 
The most atrocious aspect of this sordid affair is that the policies that Infinite Chaos outlines in the first post were not created and followed. The second most atrocious aspect having been (and possibly still being) the utter complacency in which the whole social community was ignored, on the unspoken policy of best keeping out of the sink estate parts of town(s) and leaving inhabitants to their own devices.

Hmm, government failed to act efficiently to protect the truly vulnerable in England. Yes, shocking. Part of being 'left to their own devices' includes being the target of unspeakable sex crimes, violence, bullying, and even murder. The things were warned about decades ago now, and scoffed at as the insane ramblings of racists and bigots. Enoch Powell, remember? You probably picketed his office in the later 60's with Bevis and crew.

Like "there are places you not only never want to go to, but never want to know about either"; propelled not only by the media but widely perceived in that manner by larger parts of the public.

No go zones in other words. Go on chagos, say the phrase.

The third largest atrocity lies in the current take of "we "should" have known" when it iis quite apparent that we "could" have known. And one can only hope that today it doesn't end there with public outrage now sufficiently expressed so as to allow everyone to go home again.

How about 'we did know, Sarah Champion told us, before being politically offed for offending Muslims'? And there are more rape gangs operating in the UK right now. Recent attempts at forcing archaic Islam on the Irish means the raping hordes will invariably attempt to ply their trade there as well. I pray that the Irish unleash their fierce warrior spirit when such a day comes, and refuse to offer their children to the deceptively manufactured false idol of multiculturalism.

In comparison to that, the hypocrisy of the vultures now here again and flocking to the carrion, pales.

Heed my words, since I've proven myself here to be prophetic, while your words proved flabby and pathetic: the youthful generation are slowly awakening to what's been foisted upon them, and more importantly who did the foisting. It will be this generation which picks up the pieces, and fights the battles necessitated by the generations before them. And those who sacrificed youthful Britain's future as just another chicanery in their millennia of such scams will be dealt with the harshest.
 
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Heed my words, since I've proven myself here to be prophetic, while your words proved flabby and pathetic: the youthful generation are slowly awakening to what's been foisted upon them, and more importantly who did the foisting. It will be this generation which picks up the pieces, and fights the battles necessitated by the generations before them. And those who sacrificed youthful Britain's future as just another chicanery in their millennia of such scams will be dealt with the harshest.

The 'youthful generation' are actually more upset by the Brexit scam being foisted upon them by lying fools like your hero Nigel Farage:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45925542

'Young voters are leading the march ... '
 
The 'youthful generation' are actually more upset by the Brexit scam being foisted upon them by lying fools like your hero Nigel Farage:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45925542

'Young voters are leading the march ... '

That what BBC says? Let me line my bird cage with that then if you don't mind. March 19, the UK stops being the EU's sugar daddy. Why is that a bad thing?
 
I don't think much is going to change on the 19th of March 🤔
 
Hmm, government failed to act efficiently to protect the truly vulnerable in England. Yes, shocking. Part of being 'left to their own devices' includes being the target of unspeakable sex crimes, violence, bullying, and even murder. The things were warned about decades ago now, and scoffed at as the insane ramblings of racists and bigots. Enoch Powell, remember? ~

You would have to be truly stupid to think that ONLY Pakistani rape gangs have preyed on vulnerable children in British sink estates who ended up in the care system. What these Pakistani muslim rape gangs have done is truly horrible but they weren't the only ones to take advantage of vulnerable children in such circumstances.
 
Meet the chief claqueur for the likes of Farage and Robinson and, as would be my advice, forget him again immediately.

Knows nothing about Europe in general and no country here in particular, so I've long since stopped responding to his xenophobic rants.
 
You would have to be truly stupid to think that ONLY Pakistani rape gangs have preyed on vulnerable children in British sink estates who ended up in the care system. What these Pakistani muslim rape gangs have done is truly horrible but they weren't the only ones to take advantage of vulnerable children in such circumstances.

Where being Pakistani clearly makes one a rapist, that quality appears to only surface with Paks abroad. I'll make the case here that it has to do with stringent laws back home suppressing such behaviour to the point that it simply wants out, once the holder reaches English shores. This my case is bolstered by the fact that Indians in the UK seem to be less prone to it and is easily explained by their raping everything that's not reached safety by the count of three, at home.

As any comparative perusal of rape statistics on both countries will corroborate.

IOW Paks in the UK are all pent while Indians are all spent.

That the latter families have not brought the custom of burning their girls (simply for being girls) with them, is something I still have to concoct an explanation for.

One could put it all down to Islam as well but unfortunately (for my above thesis) some Indians in the UK are also Muslims. I'll have to think something up real fast before our brilliant overseas hate artist beats me to it.
 
Yet we are going to see people come out in the defense of these men, or the society that helps create groups such as this. I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually the number 1 for common pedophilic crime. It's just the amount of protected information involved in these cases repeatedly skew the board. Not to mention the fact that they are incentivized to not use the perpetrators nationality in their reports.

I'm glad that it brought up Tommy Robinson, because he was arrested on reporting about information that had already been released. So there was no reason for them to actually arrest him in the scope of the trial.

These are the kind of criminals that should be shot in he head after the trial and given a grave to share with the rest of their ilk.

So you think Trump is going to defend these guys?

Wow. That's quite telling.
 
So you think Trump is going to defend these guys?

Wow. That's quite telling.
Hey, oy, you there!!!

I've taken over the running of the satire department in this thread, so darn well ask me first before submitting your suggestions of irony, sarcasm or humour in general.

;)
 
You would have to be truly stupid to think that ONLY Pakistani rape gangs have preyed on vulnerable children in British sink estates who ended up in the care system. What these Pakistani muslim rape gangs have done is truly horrible but they weren't the only ones to take advantage of vulnerable children in such circumstances.

I know of no other ethnicity in the UK which forms race based gangs whose victims are targeted based on racial/class criteria. Here are the areas of England which have had Pakistani rape gangs targeting white children:

Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale, Derby, Banbury, Telford, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Sheffield, Keighley, Newcastle. Huddersfield, Calderdale.

One group of 3 Pakistani brothers raped more than 50 white girls alone. The number of total victims of the Pakistani racist rape epidemic should have to total in the many thousands, when logic is applied to the question.

And all the while, your government is still unwilling to allow its people the truth-

A recent FOIA request for information detailing the ethnicity of convicted rapists in the UK was denied.

"We are unable to provide an ethnic breakdown of those convicted of rape, or any further information around convictions of crime."

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/tran...mofinformationfoi/rapeconvictionsandethnicity

They lied. They are unwilling to provide those details, not unable.
 
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