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'They've Stolen Everything': In Russia's Far East, Dreams Deferred Amid Grim Mood Over Pension Refor

Putin has become the richest man in history and the world's biggest thief by stealing the wealth of the Russian people. I thought everyone knew that.

Vladimir Putin Is Richer Than Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates Combined | Fortune

This is why I keep saying that Putin is a modern day TSAR, he literally owns ALL OF RUSSIA, and everything in it, as long as he stays in power. Forget standard Western economic theory and accounting, Vladimir Putin controls shell companies that put the entire sum value of all assets under his personal control and all wealth under his say so.

Even the concept of ownership of wealth, property and assets is, for Putin, a foreign concept that he does believe in.
"A chicken may claim ownership of an egg as long as she roosts on it but it is not her egg."

That's because as far as Putin is concerned, Russia is the chicken, and the egg belongs to him.
Thus, for all practical purposes, Vladimir Putin is virtually a trillionaire, but even if one is forced to use Western accounting principles, Putin's personal wealth assets total in excess of 200 billion dollars, and by the way, that claim did not originate with Bill Browder. The first person to assert that figure was actually Putin's former banker, Sergei Pugachev.

"Any attempt to calculate [Putin's net worth] won't succeed. Everything that belongs to the territory of the Russian Federation Putin considers to be his."

I've been pushing this story ever since I first read it in 2014.
 
This is why I keep saying that Putin is a modern day TSAR, he literally owns ALL OF RUSSIA, and everything in it, as long as he stays in power. Forget standard Western economic theory and accounting, Vladimir Putin controls shell companies that put the entire sum value of all assets under his personal control and all wealth under his say so.

Even the concept of ownership of wealth, property and assets is, for Putin, a foreign concept that he does believe in.

"A chicken may claim ownership of an egg as long as she roosts on it but it is not her egg."

That's because as far as Putin is concerned, Russia is the chicken, and the egg belongs to him.
Thus, for all practical purposes, Vladimir Putin is virtually a trillionaire, but even if one is forced to use Western accounting principles, Putin's personal wealth assets total in excess of 200 billion dollars, and by the way, that claim did not originate with Bill Browder. The first person to assert that figure was actually Putin's former banker, Sergei Pugachev.

"Any attempt to calculate [Putin's net worth] won't succeed. Everything that belongs to the territory of the Russian Federation Putin considers to be his."

I've been pushing this story ever since I first read it in 2014.

THAT is all the farther I got, because once you prove that you have not the first damn clue what is going on what would be the point?
 
The whole region is bad at life expectancy, my co worker would talk about being a kid in the army stationed in eastern europe, and how people would jump out of second and third stories into the snow they they had zero care for their own well being. Recently I ran across a article about russia converting a robot with 9 flamethrowers, and both me and my friend thought well that is why it is not a good idea to pay your troops with vodka.
Although it's been some time now since but I remember one of my qualifications for travelling there to negotiate business deals was rooted in my capacity for drinking, yet staying on my feet.

Caviar breakfasts with copious intake of both vodka and Crimean "sparkly" were the rule rather than the exceptions. Most sickening for me was the necessity of lining my stomach with the most greasy of food, before even setting out for any such meetings. That so-called housewife's recipe against getting drunk didn't help all that much either. Never managed more than one meeting per day, seeing how after just one I was dead for the rest.

Fortunately the time between trips was weeks and often months and I never touched a drop in those recuperation phases.

From all I've heard and seen, cirrhosis ain't fun.
 
THAT is all the farther I got, because once you prove that you have not the first damn clue what is going on what would be the point?
On that principle it was good of you to bow out in time.
 
On that principle it was good of you to bow out in time.

The thing about the Chinese and thus we American Zennists who did not get stupid is that we are a very practical school...with us the only thing that matters at the end of the day is what works/what does not work.

The mostly supremely ignorant Americans have basically no clue of the nature of the **** storm that is about to hit us.

If you are smart you will pay attention to the few of us who understand what is happening.

EDUCATION MATTERS!
 
~..................If you are smart you will pay attention to the few of us who understand what is happening..............~
well, that sure rules you out then.

Not alone on your confusion
The thing about the Chinese and thus we American Zennists
over different names and the people (nationalities) that use them.

But seeing how this thread is neither about Chan nor Zen, I'll let the whole matter rest here.
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well, that sure rules you out then.

Not alone on your confusion over different names and the people (nationalities) that use them.

But seeing how this thread is neither about Chan nor Zen, I'll let the whole matter rest here.
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As per usual spending time with you proves unprofitable.

:bon_voyag
 
Putin broke his social contract

Suddenly, Russian President Vladimir Putin has seen his people’s trust in him falling from an already low 59 percent in November 2017 to 39 percent in September, according to the independent pollster Levada Center. This might be too low for an authoritarian leader to be sustainable. The cause is his pension reform. During his 19 years in power, Putin has faced three significant crises. In 2005, pensioners protested against his cut of social benefits, and Putin retreated. In 2011-12, Russia’s wealthy middle class lamented election fraud, and Putin steamrolled them. Since June, Putin is facing his third major crisis over increased retirement age, but now he has broken his social contract with the Russian people. When Putin came to power in 2000, he promised stability and economic growth, while he told people to keep quiet and stay out of politics. He arrived at a laid table with rising oil prices, giving Russia eminent economic growth of 7 percent a year until 2008, so people consented. Alas, Putin did not develop Russia’s weak institutions. On the contrary, he gradually ground them down. Russian businessmen saw what was happening and exported their capital to safer lands. Poor institutions and large capital flight have kept Russia’s investment persistently low, rendering Russia’s economy stagnant since 2009. Thus, Putin has violated his implicit social contract with the Russian people. He no longer delivers economic growth or rising standards of living. Instead, he has delivered increased repression and lawlessness.

Putin needs another source of legitimacy. He has chosen to hark back on the old tsarist idea of useful “small, victorious wars.” His five-day war in Georgia in August 2008 was a great domestic success and so was his annexation of Crimea in 2014. Even small wars are costly, especially if they unleash substantial foreign sanctions, as Putin’s war in Ukraine has done. I have estimated that the combined cost of Russia’s wars and the Western sanctions is 3-4 percent of GDP every year since 2014. These wars condemn Russia to economic stagnation for as long as they last, and the West is persistently ratcheting up its sanctions on Russia. Putin has promised to make his friends whole. In 2017, he signed a law that guarantees full compensation to individuals that suffer losses from hostile foreign sanctions. Curiously, Putin wants to take the money from the poor and give it to the billionaires, putting this financial burden squarely on the Russian people. During the four years of 2014-17, real disposable incomes fell by a total of no less than 17 percent, and investment slumped by 12 percent. Putin has cold nerves and he has resolved prior storms. He is meeting one regional governor after another to regroup his troops. On Sep. 26, the Duma adopted the revised pension reform, though still with support only from United Russia. Putin may benefit from some foreign destabilization once again, but more U.S. sanctions are likely in November.

Additional sanctions will be imposed by the EU for the Kremlin's use of outlawed chemical weapons. The Russian people will be the ones paying for Putin's many follies rather than Putin's silovik/oligarch regime.

Putin is now begging the West for financial help in rebuilding Syria. You broke it Vlad, you now own it.
 
Arghhh ...... the Russophobes still waiting for the great revolution ............ being wrong for nearly 20 years based on a total ignorance of Russia and flawed analysis whilst utterly convinced of your own righteousness must be so frustrating ;).


You guys ...... I do feel a little sorry for you.
 
Arghhh ...... the Russophobes still waiting for the great revolution ............ being wrong for nearly 20 years based on a total ignorance of Russia and flawed analysis whilst utterly convinced of your own righteousness must be so frustrating ;).


You guys ...... I do feel a little sorry for you.
Compared to what most of us by now feel for you, a "little" would be darn nigh nothing.

The ignorance that YOU display may have something to do with that.
 
Arghhh ...... the Russophobes still waiting for the great revolution ............ being wrong for nearly 20 years based on a total ignorance of Russia and flawed analysis whilst utterly convinced of your own righteousness must be so frustrating ;).

You guys ...... I do feel a little sorry for you.

One Revolution brought you Communism... And decades of paranoia, inefficiency and death...

Another Revolution overthrew Communism and the Russian elite simply traded their Volgas for BMWs and continue to screw the populace....
 
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