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Leaked docs show Assange bid for Russian visa

Probably because he knows that he will be shot dead the second he sticks his head out in the open.

By whom? Putin?

Assange knows too much about Guccifer 2.0
 
Tigerace117:

You call Mr. Assange a criminal but he has been convicted of nothing in this matter. What happened to the presumption of innocence? If an innocent person believes that his prosecution for a crime is being done for political reasons and that prosecution could result in his extradition and permanent imprisonment without due legal process by a third-party state then that seems pretty reasonable in my mind. The fact that the US Government squirrels away non-citizens in places like black prisons, on ships at sea and at Guantanamo Bay makes these suspicions more rational and less paranoia.

Did you read the details of the case against Assange which I posted above? He did not sexually assault anyone by the alleged victims' own admissions. They both consented to having sex with him and did not explicitly retract their consents to him, instead choosing to remain silent and suffer the intercourse which followed. They both allowed Mr. Assange to stay with them after the alleged sexual improprieties/assaults and one victim even hosted a party for him after the alleged sexual misconduct had occurred. Swedish authorities investigated the allegations against Mr. Assad and decided to shelve the case based on its weak merits. Then all of a sudden as Assange becomes a real problem for certain governments all around the world, the case is active again with no new evidence or new victims reporting alleged misconduct. That, in conjunction with all the other peculiar circumstances surrounding the Assange case, means that what you call paranoia may well be a rational and reasonable fear about the motives of Swedish prosecutors or their political bosses in reopening the case and going after Mr. Assange for a second time.

This was not rape in the sense of the word as most people understand it. Mr. Assange committed what might be called sexual misconduct by repeatedly refusing to use a condom even though he relented in each instance eventually and used one. The broken condom issue is down to a he said/she said evaluation and Swedish authorities realised this was an unwinnable and probably frivolous prosecution. To characterise this as rape is disingenuous and only serves to inflame the emotions of those who don't bother to read the particulars of the case.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

Yes, he has been convicted of nothing because he has purposefully chosen to avoid any sort of trial, court, or however the Swedish government administers justice in the case of his particular offenses. Like I said before, that is not the actions of an innocent man. The simple fact of the matter is that by deciding to hide in an embassy until the statue of limatations expires, Julian Assange has exposed himself quite throughly as someone who considers himself above the law.

As I said before as well, paranoia is not a valid defense. I'm sure you could find some armed robbers who think the government is controlling their minds with alien technology and forcing them to commit crimes. Nowhere does it say that the justice system is obliged to tolerate and play along with delusional fairy tales.

So in other words we are fully into the victim blaming stage of the defense. Somehow, I'm not surprised.

You mean people decided to treat a man who had already shown complete and utter disregard for any law he didn't personally agree with(including, apparently, ones revolving around consent) extremely carefully? Clearly that's a true sign of the conspiracy! :roll:

What's really disingenuous is that people continue to think of Julian Assange as some sort of "freedom fighter" when all his actions show is that he is a narcissist who doesn't think the same laws that the "little people" live by apply to him.
 
Probably because he knows that he will be shot dead the second he sticks his head out in the open.

:lamo

If that were really the case why wouldn't someone have tried to whack him already?

There's a secret government deep state plot to assassinate the man which abides by diplomatic protocols?

"Murder's just fine but don't go violating the sanctity of the Ecaudorian embassy"?

What a joke :roll:
 
Russians considered plan to smuggle Julian Assange out of embassy in UK: report

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9/21/18
Russian officials reportedly discussed plans with an Ecuadorian minister to smuggle Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the country's embassy in London to safe haven in Russia, according to a new report. The Guardian reports that Ecuador's former London consul, Fidel Narváez, served as Assange's top ally in the ground-floor London facility where Assange has been staying for months as he faces what he calls politically-motivated charges of sexual assault and rape in Sweden. According to The Guardian, Narváez and Russian officials discussed a plan to move Assange out of the embassy via diplomatic vehicle before eventually facilitating his travel to Russia or possibly another country. The plan, originally set for Christmas Eve 2017, was abandoned due to thoughts it was "too risky," according to the report. Assange's possibility of travel to Ecuador by boat was also discussed.

Plans to move Assange were reportedly supported by other members of Ecuador's government as well, with The Guardian reporting that the country's intelligence chief, Rommy Vallejo, traveled to London in mid-December to oversee the operation before it was abandoned.
Four separate sources told the newspaper that the Kremlin was supportive of the plan, and added that an unidentified Russian businessman served as an intermediary between the two governments.

I'm sure Moscow wants Assange safely tucked away somewhere deep within the Russia Federation (or dead).

Assange knows too much about the DNC server hack and how these data files wound up at Wikileaks. He knows too much about Guccifer 2.0 also.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Mr. Assange has an unfortunate 'accident' or a poisoning.
 
The Assange situation is embarrassing for London, which has been criticised widely by human rights groups.

What needs to be noted here is that London could easily make this case go away by providing back door assurances that he would be arrested for his breach of bail, quickly released and his passport returned so he could make safe passage to wherever. But London refuses to do this, since it is deeply subservient to Washington.

So this shocking human rights abuse continues.

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=

On 4 December 2015, the Working Group on Arbitrary Detention (WGAD) adopted Opinion No. 54/2015, in which it considered that Mr. Julian Assange was arbitrarily detained by the Governments of Sweden and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. In that opinion, the Working Group recognized that Mr. Assange is entitled to his freedom of movement and to compensation. The application was filed with the Working Group in September 2014. The Opinion 54/2015 was sent to the Governments of Sweden and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on 22 January 2016 in accordance with the Working Group’s Methods of Work.
 
What needs to be noted here is that London could easily make this case go away by providing back door assurances that he would be arrested for his breach of bail, quickly released and his passport returned so he could make safe passage to wherever. But London refuses to do this, since it is deeply subservient to Washington..

Right on cue, a Russian advocates bypassing the rule of law.
 
Right on cue, a Russian advocates bypassing the rule of law.

What I'm advocating is that London asserts its own laws, and seeks to protect Assange from extra-judicial and illegal US extradition requests.

But London is incapable of doing anything but prostrating itself before its slave master. Consequently, and uncomfortably, it is happy to continually breach human rights and ignore all criticisms of its barbaric stance.
 
What I'm advocating is that London asserts its own laws, and seeks to protect Assange from extra-judicial and illegal US extradition requests.

But London is incapable of doing anything but prostrating itself before its slave master. Consequently, and uncomfortably, it is happy to continually breach human rights and ignore all criticisms of its barbaric stance.

You forgot this ..... RT™
 
I'm surprised you had nothing to say about the UN Working Group's fierce criticism of the UK's de facto detention of Assange.

#selectivehumanrights
 
I'm surprised you had nothing to say about the UN Working Group's fierce criticism of the UK's de facto detention of Assange.

#selectivehumanrights

Assange is hiding in the Ecuadoran embassy. He's a paranoid criminal.
 
Assange is hiding in the Ecuadoran embassy. He's a paranoid criminal.

More crass lies from RV.

Here's what the UN Working Group said. Maybe people should actually read it.


The Working Group on Arbitrary Detention considers that the various forms of deprivation of liberty to which Julian Assange has been subjected constitute a form of arbitrary detention,” said Seong-Phil Hong, who currently heads the expert panel.

“The Working Group maintains that the arbitrary detention of Mr. Assange should be brought to an end, that his physical integrity and freedom of movement be respected, and that he should be entitled to an enforceable right to compensation,” Mr. Hong added.

In its official Opinion, the Working Group considered that Mr. Assange had been subjected to different forms of deprivation of liberty: initial detention in Wandsworth Prison in London, followed by house arrest and then confinement at the Ecuadorean Embassy.

According to a press release issued by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the experts also found that the detention was arbitrary because Mr. Assange was held in isolation at Wandsworth Prison, and because a lack of diligence by the Swedish Prosecutor’s Office in its investigations resulted in his lengthy loss of liberty.

The Working Group further established that this detention violates two articles of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and six articles of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
 
Assange is hiding in the Ecuadoran embassy. He's a paranoid criminal.

More crass lies from RV.

Here's what the UN Working Group said. Maybe people should actually read it.


The Working Group on Arbitrary Detention considers that the various forms of deprivation of liberty to which Julian Assange has been subjected constitute a form of arbitrary detention,” said Seong-Phil Hong, who currently heads the expert panel.

“The Working Group maintains that the arbitrary detention of Mr. Assange should be brought to an end, that his physical integrity and freedom of movement be respected, and that he should be entitled to an enforceable right to compensation,” Mr. Hong added.

In its official Opinion, the Working Group considered that Mr. Assange had been subjected to different forms of deprivation of liberty: initial detention in Wandsworth Prison in London, followed by house arrest and then confinement at the Ecuadorean Embassy.

According to a press release issued by the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), the experts also found that the detention was arbitrary because Mr. Assange was held in isolation at Wandsworth Prison, and because a lack of diligence by the Swedish Prosecutor’s Office in its investigations resulted in his lengthy loss of liberty.

The Working Group further established that this detention violates two articles of the Universal Declaration on Human Rights, and six articles of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
 
The Laurel and Hardy Obama FBI failed to examine the DNC computers when this first broke. Except for possible partisanship and coverup there is no other explanation for this failure to investigate. That makes all democrat claims that Russia gave the emails to Assange nothing but speculation without support.

Still clinging to that conspiracy theory I see. You may as well get on the stage with Trump at Helsinki and suck Putin's big toe with him, if you don't believe the extraordinarily detailed and expansive forensic work done on the Russian hacking.
You can actually read the details in the Russian indictment of those hackers. Thinks like which servers they leased, what tunnels they used to connect, what specific software/websites they crafted to get the passwords, which malware they used, etc., etc., etc. Much of which doesn't even require the server data, which they already had a clone of.

The reason DNC didn't hand their entire personal/private email server over, is because they know Jordans/Meadows/Nunes are anti-American and would get and distribute those private emails for political embarrassment, just as the Russians did.

The FBI agreed it wasn't necessary, and of course, they were right.
 
Here's what the UN Working Group said. Maybe people should actually read it.

The UK and Swedish governments rejected the report.[33] Then-UK Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Philip Hammond, said the claim was "ridiculous" and that the group was "made up of lay people", and called Assange a "fugitive from justice" who "can come out any time he chooses".[34] On 13th February 2018, the Westminster Magistrates’ Court, while considering whether the arrest warrant issued against Assange should be upheld, rejected the findings of the Working Group, stating in part that "The group appears to have based its conclusions on some misunderstandings of what occurred after Mr Assange’s arrest." Senior District Judge (Chief Magistrate) Emma Arbuthnot did not findt that Mr Assange’s stay in the Embassy was "inappropriate, unjust, unpredictable, unreasonable, unnecessary or disproportionate." [40] [41].
Working Group on Arbitrary Detention

I wonder why the Working Group never looks into the many arbitrary jailings of Alexi Navalny?

Putin's critic Alexei Navalny arrested moments after release from jail
 
The Assange situation is embarrassing for London, which has been criticised widely by human rights groups.

What needs to be noted here is that London could easily make this case go away by providing back door assurances that he would be arrested for his breach of bail, quickly released and his passport returned so he could make safe passage to wherever. But London refuses to do this, since it is deeply subservient to Washington.
Why should Assange be given preferential treatment just because of (perceived) embarrassment for the British government? Would it be justifiable to treat a suspect more harshly to avoid political embarrassment too?

So this shocking human rights abuse continues.
Assange remains as free to leave the embassy as he was from day one. Any “human rights abuses” from his being there are entirely of his own making.
 
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