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Russian trucks entering and leaving Ukraine

Given that Donbas is legally Ukrainian territory, can anyone explain why Kiev has stopped paying benefits and pensions to its citizens there?

Why does Kiev also shell Donbss, sometimes destroying civilian homes, schools, hospitals?

If you hope to win the hearts and minds of the civilians there, Kiev has a very odd approach. It looks to me much like they know that the civilians don't want to be part of the putsch regime and so have effectively written them off.

Focus on Russia all you like, but where is the aid from Ukraine? Nowhere.
 
Westphalian said:
Given that Donbas is legally Ukrainian territory, can anyone explain why Kiev has stopped paying benefits and pensions to its citizens there?

Why does Kiev also shell Donbss, sometimes destroying civilian homes, schools, hospitals?

If you hope to win the hearts and minds of the civilians there, Kiev has a very odd approach. It looks to me much like they know that the civilians don't want to be part of the putsch regime and so have effectively written them off.

Focus on Russia all you like, but where is the aid from Ukraine? Nowhere.
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Why are the Russians invading Ukraine territories?
 
Rogue Valley said:
Luhansk and Donetsk are Ukrainian oblasts. Geneva Conventions and international law ... no referendum is valid on occupied territory.
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Donetsk and Luhansk don't recognize the referendum on occupied Ukraine after the coup d'etat. Agreed. Cue fieldmouse droppings to follow.
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DaveFagan said:
Donetsk and Luhansk don't recognize the referendum on occupied Ukraine after the coup d'etat. Agreed. Cue fieldmouse droppings to follow.
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Neither oblast is required to agree.

They are still Ukrainian territory and Russia is still an invader.

Cue another round of excuse for Russian land grabs.
 
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The OSCE video confirms that the route the Russian convoys are using a dirt road between Manych, Ukraine and Svobodnyy, Russia which passes thru the "Water/Marsh Crossing Point".
Here the OSCE takes a 2017 Google Earth satellite image and denotes the border with a solid yellow line. The yellow push-pins mark how the Russian convoy travels in Ukraine on a dirt road
after it illegally crosses the Ukraine border blacked-out and amid farm fields. The convoy will eventually access a paved road in the occupied territory and travel to either the city
of Luhansk or the city of Donetsk to unload the weapons/ammunition cargo.
 
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