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Johnson setting out his stall [W:44]

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Having recently resigned from his post as foreign minister, BoJo is now positioning himself for the Daily Mail readership.

The former foreign secretary has been criticised for saying Muslim women wearing burkas "look like letter boxes" and comparing them to "bank robbers". PM Theresa May has backed calls for Mr Johnson to apologise, saying the remarks have "clearly caused offence".

But a source close to Mr Johnson said he "won't be apologising", adding it was "ridiculous" to attack his views.

"We must not fall into the trap of shutting down the debate on difficult issues," the source added.
"We have to call it out. If we fail to speak up for liberal values then we are simply yielding ground to reactionaries and extremists." Link.
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Make no mistake, this is not a man speaking out for Liberal values and oppressed muslim women - he's in this for himself and he's picked an easy target to build his personal following around.

And to think I once hoped he would lead the Conservative Party. :toilet:
 
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I'm so sorry for laughing it's a terrible thing he said but it's really funny.

Clearly, when his wife asks "do my butt looks big in this", his answer is yes
 
Wonder when someone will point out that he is like 25% Turkish.... or is it 50%.

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Infinite Chaos said:
Having recently resigned from his post as foreign minister, BoJo is now positioning himself for the Daily Mail readership.



Make no mistake, this is not a man speaking out for Liberal values and oppressed muslim women - he's in this for himself and he's picked an easy target to build his personal following around.

And to think I once hoped he would lead the Conservative Party. :toilet:
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Yeah, it's been quite some time since he ran London.

But where he didn't do too badly in that, he was already a lying twit long before. Didn't get himself sacked by The Times for nothing (falsification).
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Having recently resigned from his post as foreign minister, BoJo is now positioning himself for the Daily Mail readership.



Make no mistake, this is not a man speaking out for Liberal values and oppressed muslim women - he's in this for himself and he's picked an easy target to build his personal following around.

And to think I once hoped he would lead the Conservative Party. :toilet:
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Apologize? It's not like he's a member of the Royal Family and dressed as a Nazi with a swastika arm band and all at a fancy dress party?

Not to come down as supporting Johnson, but I have to admit, I thought it was funny and laughed.

Isn't there a long standing stereotype of Brits not having a sense of humor, or good dentistry?

Thank goodness we have the 1st Amendment in the U.S.A.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Apologize? It's not like he's a member of the Royal Family and dressed as a Nazi with a swastika arm band and all at a fancy dress party?

Not to come down as supporting Johnson, but I have to admit, I thought it was funny and laughed.

Isn't there a long standing stereotype of Brits not having a sense of humor, or good dentistry?

Thank goodness we have the 1st Amendment in the U.S.A.
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Yeah well, thank goodness we have our own understanding of free speech over here and, specifically, the responsibilities that go with it.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Apologize? It's not like he's a member of the Royal Family and dressed as a Nazi with a swastika arm band and all at a fancy dress party?

Not to come down as supporting Johnson, but I have to admit, I thought it was funny and laughed.

Isn't there a long standing stereotype of Brits not having a sense of humor, or good dentistry?

Thank goodness we have the 1st Amendment in the U.S.A.
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Actually he is technically part of the royal family and technically could become king if like 85+ people before him got wacked....

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PeteEU said:
Actually he is technically part of the royal family and technically could become king if like 85+ people before him got wacked....

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I don't wish him any harm but could acquaint myself wit the thought of that being made 86

:mrgreen:
 
PeteEU said:
Actually he is technically part of the royal family and technically could become king if like 85+ people before him got wacked....

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Thank goodness there’s that many to go through.
 
HERA the Stars said:
~ I'm so sorry for laughing it's a terrible thing he said but it's really funny ~ [/QUOTE]

Also he is playing to a certain sector of the Conservative Party here.

[QUOTE="Beaudreaux, post: 1068876882, member: 18847"]~ Isn't there a long standing stereotype of Brits not having a sense of humor, or good dentistry? [/quote]

We gave the world Chaplin, Stan Laurel, Benny Hill and Monty Python which tells you all you need to know about the other stereotypes.

[QUOTE="Beaudreaux, post: 1068876882, member: 18847"]~Thank goodness we have the 1st Amendment in the U.S.A.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it gave you Donald Trump who can't take any criticism and has to answer back to any and almost all criticism like a schoolboy.

[QUOTE="PeteEU, post: 1068877498, member: 2747"]Actually he is technically part of the royal family and technically could become king if like 85+ people before him got wacked....[/QUOTE]

Very very distantly - some 1000 people are in a similar position to claim the throne if a mass murder / mass disease wipes out at least 200 Royals. His ties however mean he could under strangest circumstances claim the the throne in almost every European country including Russia.

[QUOTE]Boris Johnson is not only distantly related, albeit very far removed, to the present Royal Family but also to all the royal houses of Europe, including the Swedish and Dutch royal families, as well as the Romanoffs. [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/08_august/04/think.shtml"]Link[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Chagos said:
~ Didn't get himself sacked by The Times for nothing (falsification).
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He lied twice in articles for the Times, starting in 1988 and his record hasn't really improved since. Must show the parlous state of the Conservative Party that I once thought he might make a good leader.

Looking back more critically now, despite his being a liar and seeming to have a Tourettes tic with regard to insulting others (including whole continents) his rise has continued and continued to the point he successfully led the Brexit campaign where his lies led us out of the EU. He apparently is one of the main authors or even instigators of the original "Euromyths."

Look at this article here from 1995 - the Independent.
 
Boris Johnson obviously believes that comments like that will help him win the Tory Leadership. That's pretty sad.

Kinda like Trump at times. He's following in his footsteps. There is no doubt that the Presidents rhetoric has emboldened and given encouragement to some of the worst segments of society. Blurt out some insensitive or inflammatory comment in an attempt to further divide. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The crowd go wild. Rabble, rabble, rabble.
 
The predictable rush by the media and liberal intelligentsia to demand public repentance illustrates what a crazy and messed up state the UK is becoming.

Because Johnson actually doesn't want them banned, unlike the law in some EU states. Moreover he's only saying what many people think and say in private.

In that sense he's demontrating what politicians with any sense should do - illustrate that he's in touch with a large section of the public.

Before freedom of expression is completely abolished in the UK we need more people like Johnson not less. Because the alternatives to Johnson are much more scary.
 
There're many people who think and say in private that Jews are a nasty bunch trying to run the world by leeching of it, being a Muslim makes you a barbarian resorting to all sorts of criminal practice, being of a darker skin colour makes one racially inferior etc. etc. etc.

Using that simple fact to justify someone saying all those things in public is not only about as disgusting a justification as imaginable, it also demonstrates the extent in which someone's moral compass has left proper calibration.

To then add to it all by praising the slanderer as being in touch with the other slanderers in the general public and advocating that more of his kind are needed is about as sick as it gets and will, at least in any pub, bar or restaurant I might visit, get the back of my hand approaching with some velocity.

Fortunately, at least in places I frequent, supported by a load of other hands, back or front.

And before anyone screeches over suppression of the right to free speech, everyone can say what they like and everyone has the right to a free slap as a consequence of what they say.

Just as much as I have the right to say to them "screw ya, you piece of lowlife pond scum".
 
Serenity said:
Boris Johnson obviously believes that comments like that will help him win the Tory Leadership. That's pretty sad.

Kinda like Trump at times. He's following in his footsteps. There is no doubt that the Presidents rhetoric has emboldened and given encouragement to some of the worst segments of society. Blurt out some insensitive or inflammatory comment in an attempt to further divide. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The crowd go wild. Rabble, rabble, rabble.
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Yeah, it's the new "openness" that emboldens the filth of any society to crawl out from under its stones in new found entitlement.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
He lied twice in articles for the Times, starting in 1988 and his record hasn't really improved since. Must show the parlous state of the Conservative Party that I once thought he might make a good leader.

Looking back more critically now, despite his being a liar and seeming to have a Tourettes tic with regard to insulting others (including whole continents) his rise has continued and continued to the point he successfully led the Brexit campaign where his lies led us out of the EU. He apparently is one of the main authors or even instigators of the original "Euromyths."

Look at this article here from 1995 - the Independent.
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Yeah, thanks for the link.

I've always been aware of his "clowneries".
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Also he is playing to a certain sector of the Conservative Party here.



We gave the world Chaplin, Stan Laurel, Benny Hill and Monty Python which tells you all you need to know about the other stereotypes.



Yeah, it gave you Donald Trump who can't take any criticism and has to answer back to any and almost all criticism like a schoolboy.



Very very distantly - some 1000 people are in a similar position to claim the throne if a mass murder / mass disease wipes out at least 200 Royals. His ties however mean he could under strangest circumstances claim the the throne in almost every European country including Russia.
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And there's that sense of humor. Well done.
 
Freedom of expression Chagos style - to paraphrase, people can say what they wish but if I don't agree I might hit them.

How anyone can, in the same short post, excoriate 'low life pond scum' and 'slanderers' whilst approvingly salivate over beating up 'low life'?


Now, maybe Chagos is a thoroughly nice chap. But he seems to be majorly lacking self awareness. By contrast, if he walked into the places I frequent in Riga and Tallinn he'd be sure of a very warm welcome whatever his views. But that's the difference between intolerant liberals who act like nazis, and alleged nazis who are modern democrats.
 
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/...hank-boris-johnson-for-calling-out-the-niqab/

Twenty years later, while Saudi Arabia is itself liberalizing, the niqab is increasingly adopted by Muslim women living in the West, often as an anti-Western pro-Islamist political statement opposing secularism.

When Boris Johnson mocks the niqab, he is emphatically not mocking Muslim women because – and this is a point that we Muslims seem to be unable to get across to non-Muslims – there is no basis in Islam for the niqab. Claiming otherwise is a profound distortion of Islamic belief. That’s why Muslim nations are themselves regulating and banning the niqab and burqa – as in both Morocco and Turkey where these coverings are seen as an invasion of Salafist affinities and a risk to national security and societal integrity.
 
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/...hank-boris-johnson-for-calling-out-the-niqab/

This convenient vacuum has allowed some to insert their own interpretation of veiling, for their own motives, including enforcing gender segregation and even gender apartheid, while also portraying Muslims in Europe as besieged by the false construct of Islamophobia which capitalizes on a false victimhood that so empowers Islamists as the persecuted darlings of blind liberalism. It is this blind liberalism that is now baying for Boris Johnson’s blood unaware that their indignation and calls of ‘Islamophobia’ do not protect Muslims but instead empower an Islamism that further dominates pluralist Islam.

Today the adoption of the full-face veil, particularly in the modern secular world is far worse than looking like a letterbox. It’s both a symbol of cultural misogyny and a political marker for Islamist sympathies. The detractors of Mr Johnson would do better to consider their own role in marginalizing true, civil, pluralist Islam in favor of its anti-secular anti-democratic variant, Islamism.

The jihadis want to present their bizarre dress code as the face of Islam, and for that they need useful (non-Islamic) idiots in the West to help them do so. I will not be the only British Muslim woman who is thankful that Boris Johnson is not playing along.
 
When (not if) Chagos ever walked into any place in Tallinn or Riga, he most often found a lot of fellow Kremlin critics that would assign the Nazi status exactly to those that the Putinist propagandist(s) on here so praise. In fact, very likely, to such propagandists as well.

And as to anyone supporting and even praising the xenophobic and in all other areas denigrating comments of a clown like Johnson, Estonians and Latvians alike might find the description of "low life pond scum" somewhat weak in the sense of both languages spoken there having greater strength of expression.

Like Sibul (in Estonian) for Russian and suudu ruukis (Latvian) in general appliance to anyone deserving.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Apologize? It's not like he's a member of the Royal Family and dressed as a Nazi with a swastika arm band and all at a fancy dress party?

Not to come down as supporting Johnson, but I have to admit, I thought it was funny and laughed.

Isn't there a long standing stereotype of Brits not having a sense of humor, or good dentistry?

Thank goodness we have the 1st Amendment in the U.S.A.
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Boris is an adult and should have known better

Prince Harry was a tween when wore that costume, and he apologized.

We are still waiting for an apology from the adult Boris
 
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