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Johnson setting out his stall [W:44]

Infinite Chaos said:
You really need to watch "Travels in Trumpland" on BBC 2. Great telly but also illuminating.

The passage where Ed Balls explores Trump's discovery of what makes wrestling audiences tick - and then playing up the haughty English bad guy to the American wrestling audience is priceless but also demonstrates how powerful creating strawmen can be in the "right" hands.
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Can't get BBC 2 here, can't be bothered with jumping thru the hoops for iplayer. So I'll simply take your word for it.:)

Johnson may be a buffoon but he is a capable populist (fooled me once) who continues to have a high media profile even through his days outside Parliament. His goal is ultimate power and he'll do whatever, say whatever is needed to take him to the top.
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Where I see him as a clown and as a habitual liar totally devoid of any integrity, I'd never call him stupid.

He knows darn well what he's doing and how to go about it.
 
Chagos said:
Can't get BBC 2 here, can't be bothered with jumping thru the hoops for iplayer. So I'll simply take your word for it.:)

Where I see him as a clown and as a habitual liar totally devoid of any integrity, I'd never call him stupid.

He knows darn well what he's doing and how to go about it.
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He's not stupid in the field of political chicanery, although Gove outmanoeuvred him in the leadership contest. He's quite sharp at demagoguery too, he knows the populist buttons to push all right. As a governor/minister however he is utterly incompetent. Look at his legacy as Mayor, well you can't because he doesn't have one. He achieved nothing. And then look at his legacy as ForSec. Again, he doesn't have one, unless you count the additional years of incarceration he won for Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

As with Trump, you can't help but wonder what he's doing it all for when the positions of power he has already managed to achieve don't seem to satisfy him at all. He looked out of his depth, bewildered and plain miserable every time he appeared in public in his role as ForSec. Same with Trump, who looks more bloated, more befuddled and more depressed every time you see him. Neither of them need the money, so what's in it for them?
 
Andalublue said:
He's not stupid in the field of political chicanery, although Gove outmanoeuvred him in the leadership contest. He's quite sharp at demagoguery too, he knows the populist buttons to push all right. As a governor/minister however he is utterly incompetent. Look at his legacy as Mayor, well you can't because he doesn't have one. He achieved nothing. And then look at his legacy as ForSec. Again, he doesn't have one, unless you count the additional years of incarceration he won for Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

As with Trump, you can't help but wonder what he's doing it all for when the positions of power he has already managed to achieve don't seem to satisfy him at all. He looked out of his depth, bewildered and plain miserable every time he appeared in public in his role as ForSec. Same with Trump, who looks more bloated, more befuddled and more depressed every time you see him. Neither of them need the money, so what's in it for them?
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If I were qualified in psychiatry I'd run like hell from making any long distance diagnosis.

Seeing how I'm not, here goes:lol::

There's an element of narcissism observable. Not necessarily the variety which requires that adoration, admiration and even love (however oxymoronic for and to the narcissist) be achieved at all times by manipulating anyone in the surrounding, more the element which is driven by narcissistic hurt (offence) that originates with being denied any of the above. Either by everybody or just by any group whose rejection one cannot accept, be that rejection in part or in total of whatever one does.

Where it would take far more evidence to actually assess a narcissistic personality disorder, we see resembling tendencies in others around us all the time and, if we are honest, even in ourselves. It is however a question of the extent to which we take real or imagined slights in our stride and dismiss them, or dwell on them to such a degree of forever wanting get even, no matter how far in the future the chance for that may lie. The latter behaviour being indicative of a rather frail sense of self value (self esteem) and thus something to worry over.

I reckon Boris should be worried but typical denial will of course block that avenue of address.

And with that excursion into kitchen psychology concluded, I'll now shut my friggin' trap.:mrgreen:
 
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