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Russia Stole U.S. Presidency, Pro-Kremlin Politician Claims on Live TV

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Russia Stole U.S. Presidency, Pro-Kremlin Politician Claims on Live TV

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Pro-Kremlin lawmaker Vyacheslav Nikonov

A Russian politician claimed on TV that Russian intelligence “stole” the U.S. presidential election under the nose of U.S. intelligence. Vyacheslav Nikonov, a member of Russia’s lower house of parliament, the Duma, appeared Sunday night on a show hosted by presenter Vladimir Solovyov that focused on whether U.S. global influence was in decline. “U.S. intelligence missed it when Russian intelligence stole the president of the United States," said Nikonov, before going on to extol the superior ability of Russian versus U.S. intelligence. The comments were highlighted by Julia Davis, who runs the “Russian Lies” blog, which claims to “combat Russian propaganda.” University of Virginia professor Allen Lynch, an expert on Russian foreign policy, told the Hill that Nikonov was not so much explaining Russia's influence during the U.S. election as discussing how the chaos of the fallout was emblematic of U.S. decline. “His point in making the remark was that if the U.S. can’t protect the integrity of its own electoral system, then how powerful can it really be?” wrote Lynch in an email to the outlet. Multiple U.S. intelligence agencies have accused Russia of hacking Democratic National Committee emails during the 2016 presidential election, as part of a covert campaign to help secure the election of Donald Trump. Russia has denied the claims.
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Quite frankly, the disinformation Americans receive from Russian state agencies such as RT and Sputnik are 'massaged'. What I mean by that is the tenor is softened to their disinformation points more palatable. If they didn't 'massage' their disinformation, most Americans would recoil in shock and stop reading their propaganda. Such a result would defeat the overarching purpose of RT and Sputnik. So ... they 'massage' the disinformation directly targeted at Americans in their native English language. This Russian 'massage formula' is true in every Western nation that permits RT/Sputnik broadcasts, internet articles, etc. This 'massaging' is all directed/managed by the RT/Sputnik manager Margarita Simonyan, who sits on the Board of Putin's Re-election Committee.

In Russia itself however, the presentation is much different and messages about America are not at all 'massaged'. Instead, they are vulgar and crass. If Americans could understand Russian, they would not believe what is being presented about America, and about Trump. After Helsinki, the message conveyed by every Kremlin pundit on Russian state television channels is that Trump is Putin's poodle. Kremlin TV hosts are simply flabbergasted at what Trump did in Helsinki. So, to any of you reading this that belong to Trump's base and support his Russia love ... if you only knew what is really going down on Russian television 24/7. You might just rethink things.
 
They didn't steal it but they may have bought the guy who won awhile back

We live in interesting times... :peace
 
“U.S. intelligence missed it when Russian intelligence stole the president of the United States," said Nikonov, before going on to extol the superior ability of Russian versus U.S. intelligence.
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Absolutely. And, here's the thing: That is so true that if Trump were to admit that it's true, he could in turn legitimately utter all the recriminations he wanted to against Obama, Obama's Administration and the 114th Congress for having missed it. But Trump won't simply acknowledge that the election was handed to him by the Russians, in spite of the fact that the Russians know it was and "everyone" else in the government knows it was.

Quite simply, the Russians didn't try to make Trump POTUS, they tried to do so and succeeded. That they did is precisely what Putin has to hold over Trump's head. Why? Because the reality is that just as they "made" Trump, they can "unmake" Trump. They know it and, I think, Trump knows it too. (If there was any measure of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians, all Putin needs to do is release that information and Trump's tenure will be over. And you know damn well that if Russia collaborated with the Trump campaign, they have the documentary evidence showing that to be the case.)
 
Rogue Valley said:
Russia Stole U.S. Presidency, Pro-Kremlin Politician Claims on Live TV

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Pro-Kremlin lawmaker Vyacheslav Nikonov



Quite frankly, the disinformation Americans receive from Russian state agencies such as RT and Sputnik are 'massaged'. What I mean by that is the tenor is softened to their disinformation points more palatable. If they didn't 'massage' their disinformation, most Americans would recoil in shock and stop reading their propaganda. Such a result would defeat the overarching purpose of RT and Sputnik. So ... they 'massage' the disinformation directly targeted at Americans in their native English language. This Russian 'massage formula' is true in every Western nation that permits RT/Sputnik broadcasts, internet articles, etc. This 'massaging' is all directed/managed by the RT/Sputnik manager Margarita Simonyan, who sits on the Board of Putin's Re-election Committee.

In Russia itself however, the presentation is much different and messages about America are not at all 'massaged'. Instead, they are vulgar and crass. If Americans could understand Russian, they would not believe what is being presented about America, and about Trump. After Helsinki, the message conveyed by every Kremlin pundit on Russian state television channels is that Trump is Putin's poodle. Kremlin TV hosts are simply flabbergasted at what Trump did in Helsinki. So, to any of you reading this that belong to Trump's base and support his Russia love ... if you only knew what is really going down on Russian television 24/7. You might just rethink things.
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well, get your **** together folks; we will be going to war over this .............. just a matter of time ..........
 
Obama in a recent speech in South Africa honoring the Legacy of Mandela speaks in his patented, measured, thoughtful tone.

Obama Warns: We Are In "Strange And Uncertain Times," "Strongman Politics" On The Rise
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Oh....you folk are ****ing hilarious...



The guy who was IN CHARGE of the country and the nations intel agency says what you are promoting is just....stupid...and you should stop whining.
 
VanceMack said:
Oh....you folk are ****ing hilarious...



The guy who was IN CHARGE of the country and the nations intel agency says what you are promoting is just....stupid...and you should stop whining.
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In OP is spot on. Do you speak Russian VanceMack?
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Obama in a recent speech in South Africa honoring the Legacy of Mandela speaks in his patented, measured, thoughtful tone.



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Obama hit this one on ALL cylinders .........

"Who needs free speech as long as the economy is going good?"

This reminded me of what I here from those on the right who are always saying things like, "the economy is going great, jobs are plentiful, the stock market is up, unemployment is at record lows," etc.

This seems to be the ONLY thing that matters to those on the right; it's all about money, money, money, money, money.

I cannot respect money, nor those that worship money, like those on the right; why?

When all you see is dollar $igns & you leave every other good trait of a free republic in the dust, then you really have nothing.
 
Speaking of propaganda hit pieces....does this pay well?

9/12/2017?
 
VanceMack said:
Oh....you folk are ****ing hilarious...



The guy who was IN CHARGE of the country and the nations intel agency says what you are promoting is just....stupid...and you should stop whining.
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I had two opportunities to vote Obama; never did, not even once but I have to say he speaks better than most people I know & he is one classy dude.

Too bad Trump won't ever be able to come close to that ..........
 
WCH said:
Nuclear war.
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here is your quote

WCH said:
Seems to be what you and your compadres want.
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Nuclear war is NOT a reference.



Here, I will spell it out for you.

Please supply a reference for your claim; a reference that I stated. A quote from me = reference.

If you want to sit here and make claims then you should be quite able to back up your claims with a reference/a quote from me.

If not, then you are just blowing **** ..............
 
cuban smokes said:
here is your quote



Nuclear war is NOT a reference.



Here, I will spell it out for you.

Please supply a reference for your claim; a reference that I stated. A quote from me = reference.

If you want to sit here and make claims then you should be quite able to back up your claims with a reference/a quote from me.

If not, then you are just blowing **** ..............
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well, get your **** together folks; we will be going to war over this .............. just a matter of time ..........

And frankly I'm sick of all of you and you wishing death, war and general chaos to meet your goals.
 
WCH said:
well, get your **** together folks; we will be going to war over this .............. just a matter of time ..........

And frankly I'm sick of all of you and you wishing death, war and general chaos to meet your goals.
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Seems clear to anyone who isn't dying of embarrassment by their pick of president right now that that's not what he was doing, W....
 
WCH said:
well, get your **** together folks; we will be going to war over this .............. just a matter of time ..........
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again, here is YOUR quote

WCH said:
Seems to be what you and your compadres want.
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your quote claims I express a desire for war.

this expresses no desire for war; it is an opinion.
WCH said:
well, get your **** together folks; we will be going to war over this .............. just a matter of time ..........
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I understand you are playing games, making false claims but do you actually understand that opinion does not reflect desire, or conversely do your understand that desire does not reflect opinion?

I believe I now understand why you are a TrumPutin supporter; TrumPutin has no brain.

It must be contagious ..................
 
OlNate said:
Seems clear to anyone who isn't dying of embarrassment by their pick of president right now that that's not what he was doing, W....
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Maybe from a Canadian who doesn't live here. You going to tell me the Left hasn't been seeking war with Russia...wanting our POTUS to initiate it?
 
cuban smokes said:
again, here is YOUR quote



your quote claims I express a desire for war.

this expresses no desire for war; it is an opinion.



I understand you are playing games, making false claims but do you actually understand that opinion does not reflect desire, or conversely do your understand that desire does not reflect opinion?

I believe I now understand why you are a TrumPutin supporter; TrumPutin has no brain.

It must be contagious ..................
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Your communication skills are lacking. Changing definitions won't help.
 
WCH said:
Maybe from a Canadian who doesn't live here. You going to tell me the Left hasn't been seeking war with Russia...wanting our POTUS to initiate it?
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying... There's got to be something in between starting a war and playing grabass in a back room somewhere, followed immediately by a big-grinned tossing of the American people under the bus, surely.
 
WCH said:
Your communication skills are lacking. Changing definitions won't help.
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If you actually do not understand the difference between expressing opinion & expressing desire then you have absolutely no business making claims on any forum, and you certainly have no business being here @ DP bloviating your false claims of bull**** ................
 
OlNate said:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying... There's got to be something in between starting a war and playing grabass in a back room somewhere, followed immediately by a big-grinned tossing of the American people under the bus, surely.
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You want to make light of it while I don't find it humorous.
 
cuban smokes said:
If you actually do not understand the difference between expressing opinion & expressing desire then you have absolutely no business making claims on any forum, and you certainly have no business being here @ DP bloviating your false claims of bull**** ................
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If I hadn't heard similar allusions to war, making war, starting a war from your fellow kindred, I might accept that as an "opinion". However it's sounds more like parroting the weekly rhetoric.
 
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