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Novichok poisoning: police 'identify' Skripal suspects – reports

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Novichok poisoning: police 'identify' Skripal suspects – reports

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Former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with Novichok nerve agent in Salisbury in March

7/19/18
Police are believed to have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack on Russian former spy Sergei Skripal, it is being reported. Officers think several Russians were involved in the attempted murder of the former double agent and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury and are looking for more than one suspect, the British-based news agency Press Association claims. A source with knowledge of the investigation told PA: “Investigators believe they have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack through CCTV and have cross-checked this with records of people who entered the country around that time. They (the investigators) are sure they (the suspects) are Russian.” The news comes as an inquest is due to open on Thursday for Dawn Sturgess, 44, who died earlier this month, eight days after coming into contact with novichok. Police are working on the assumption that it came from the same batch used in the attempted murder of the Skripals in March. Her partner Charlie Rowley, 45, was left critically ill after also being contaminated by the nerve agent. It is understood Sturgess was exposed to at least 10 times the amount of Novichok the Skripals came into contact with, PA said.

Investigators are working on the theory that the substance was in a discarded perfume bottle found by the couple in a park or elsewhere in Salisbury city centre and Sturgess sprayed Novichok straight on to her skin, the source said. Police found the bottle at Rowley’s home in Amesbury. It is possible that in recent days they have been able to pinpoint where the bottle was discarded – and thus allow them to focus in on a particular time and place or even locate a new CCTV camera. But it may also be that four months of painstakingly combing through footage has finally paid off. A team of international experts from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) was called in to carry independent checks on the substance that poisoned Sturgess and Rowley. They have finished collecting samples which will now be analysed at two OPCW labs before the results are reported back to the UK.
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They are doing what I would have done ... examine CCTV videos from as many local and airport cameras as possible. I think London has more security cameras than any other city in the world. They should also use facial-recognition software to see if images of the perps can be found on any of the other police security cameras in the London area. Also send the images to MI5 and MI6 (and CIA) to determine if they are in a Russian-agent database. In addition, try to pull prints off of the perfume bottle and anything else (400+ pieces of evidence) the perps may have touched. I'm sure they are doing all of this and much more. They're very good and thorough.
 
Even the UK government is dis-owning Rogue's repetition of this story from the usual 'sources' :roll:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44883803

But, writing on Twitter, security minister Ben Wallace called the reports "ill informed and wild speculation".
 
Fledermaus said:
One man's opinion....

Lets see where the investigations lead.
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Except he's the Security Minister who really ought to know the facts :roll:.


Still, let's not let facts spoil the occasion.
 
Westphalian said:
Except he's the Security Minister who really ought to know the facts :roll:.

Still, let's not let facts spoil the occasion.
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Agreed... Lets see where the investigations lead.

PREDICTION: You will accept the UK findings just like you accepted the Netherlands findings IRT MH17....
 
Fledermaus said:
One man's opinion....
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I actually think that the Guardian, rather than jumping the gun just for the sake of getting a story out there, should have kept its mouth shut for the time being. To follow your advice of
Lets see where the investigations lead.
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In a paper I prefer reporting, I don't want to witness premature ejaculations anywhere.
 
Westphalian said:
But, writing on Twitter, security minister Ben Wallace called the reports "ill informed and wild speculation".
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Security Minister Ben Wallace isn't leading this investigation. The London Metropolitan Police and Scotland Yard are doing the investigating along with Porton Down and the OPCW.

Beyond those facts, the Brit security apparatus has an interest in not allowing too many insider details disclosed until they can overhaul the security deficiencies that were exploited by the Russian perps.

It's fairly obvious you have no working experience in security and investigations.
 
Well to me it looks like a leak of information they didn't want to share, Ben Wallace is backtracking and making a mess of it.

it's highly likely that with these two separate incidents they would have enough CCTV to identify suspects, proof, of course, would be difficult which is why I belive Ben Wallace is backtracking

The source with knowledge of the investigation told the Press Association: "Investigators believe they have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack through CCTV and have cross-checked this with records of people who entered the country around that time.

"They (the investigators) are sure they (the suspects) are Russian."

A source also said to have knowledge of the investigation told CNN on Thursday that two suspects had been identified and that the pair had left the UK after the attack.
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It seems that the Novichok perfume bottle somehow broke, and Dawn Sturgess came in direct contact with the deadly Russian nerve agent.

If true, she was doomed to succumb.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Have no idea of the accuracy here or if this is merely sensationalism to churn up sales. Claims that four Russians, one a woman, comprised the Skripal assassination team.

How 'Putin's spy agency' hit-squad 'including a woman' carried out whirlwind 30-hour Novichok mission to poison the Skripals
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Always much easier to send a group of 4 agents allegedly known to MI5 to carry out the work of one. Clearly, MI5 were on top of things? How heavy was that perfume bottle? :roll:

The article makes some other great claims - such that the Aeroflot flight boarded in London on March 30 'may' have been the one the alleged group of 4 travelled on a month earlier.

No kidding - some top notch journalism - maybe.
 
Chagos said:
Well, seeing how it's the Daily Fail, if they stated the sun to rise in the East tomorrow, I'd probably put the blinds down in the West come morning. :mrgreen:
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That's why I put in the disclaimer. I'm not all that familiar with the British media.
 
Westphalian said:
Always much easier to send a group of 4 agents allegedly known to MI5 to carry out the work of one. Clearly, MI5 were on top of things? How heavy was that perfume bottle? :roll:

The article makes some other great claims - such that the Aeroflot flight boarded in London on March 30 'may' have been the one the alleged group of 4 travelled on a month earlier.

No kidding - some top notch journalism - maybe.
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Unlike you, who swallows RT, Sputnik, and TASS garbage, I openly state when I am not certain of a publisher's reputation/credibility.
 
Westphalian said:
Always much easier to send a group of 4 agents allegedly known to MI5 to carry out the work of one. Clearly, MI5 were on top of things? How heavy was that perfume bottle? :roll:

The article makes some other great claims - such that the Aeroflot flight boarded in London on March 30 'may' have been the one the alleged group of 4 travelled on a month earlier.

No kidding - some top notch journalism - maybe.
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Well there is no doubt that the nerve agent used was not picked up in a local pharmacy. Putin's brazen murders should not be minimized.
 
You can bag the DailyMail as a source as much as you like but the story makes a lot of sense and quote many facts we already have.
 
From what I understand from various sources, Charley and Dawn found the Novichok perfume bottle somewhere (unidentified) in the center of Salisbury. Back at home, it seems Dawn sprayed her wrists with the Novichok thinking it was perfume. This was roughly ten times the Novichok dose sprayed on the Skripal door knob. Charley, a heroin addict, then dropped the perfume bottle and it split open.
 
No pallbearers at funeral of British woman poisoned with nerve agent, priest says

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Dawn Sturgess (44) -- died from being contaminated by a Russian nerve agent.

7/30/18
LONDON —There will be no pallbearers at the funeral Monday of a British woman who was poisoned with a Soviet-developed nerve agent Novichok, the priest who will be conducting the service said. The Reverend Philip Bromiley said the funeral directors took advice from public health officials on safety measures to prevent anyone else from being poisoned ahead of Dawn Sturgess' cremation. Sturgess, a 44-year-old mother-of-three, died July 7 — a week after she and her partner Charlie Rowley, 45, were found unconscious in the town of Amesbury in southern England. Authorities say they were also poisoned with Novichok. "The message I received is that there are certain measures in place to make sure the service will be as safe as possible," he said, according to the BBCBromiley said Rowley, who was discharged from the hospital July 20, would be at the funeral.
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A Putin assassination operation kills a mother of three.
 
Rogue Valley said:
There will be no pallbearers at the funeral Monday of a British woman who was poisoned with a Soviet-developed nerve agent Novichok, the priest who will be conducting the service said. The Reverend Philip Bromiley said the funeral directors took advice from public health officials on safety measures to prevent anyone else from being poisoned ahead of Dawn Sturgess' cremation.
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that's horrible, the family must be devastated, Putin haunting them even in death
 
Still no evidence, still no suspects ........... but Putin did it :roll:
 
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