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Russia Seeks To Block Telegram In Showdown Over Internet Freedom

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Russia Seeks To Block Telegram In Showdown Over Internet Freedom

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April 6, 2018

Russia's state media regulator has asked a court to block the messaging app Telegram following the company's refusal to give the Federal Security Service (FSB) access to users' messaging data. In a statement on its website, Roskomnadzor said it had filed suit with Moscow's Taganka district court on April 6 seeking "restrictions on access to...Telegram on the territory of Russia." The move may fuel concerns that Russia is seeking to curtail Internet freedoms following President Vladimir Putin's March 18 election to a new six-year term. Shortly after Roskomnadzor issued the statement, Telegram lawyer Ramil Akhmetgaliyev said that the company did not plan to follow the order, dismissing the FSB's demand as "unconstitutional" and "not based on law.
"Telegram's position remains the same -- the FSB's request is...impossible to carry out, both in technical and legal terms, and therefore the request to block [Telegram] is groundless as well," Akhmetgaliyev said.
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About 5 years ago, Pavel Durov, who owned and founded the Russian social media giant VKontakte (In Contact) fled to the West rather than obey a Russian court order to surrender all user data to Russian authorities. VK was then sold to a number of Putin-friendly oligarchs. Mr. Durov is also the co-founder of Telegram, a very popular messaging app. Russian authorities are demanding the encryption keys to the app. In Russia, the law states that Russian authorities must have unlimited access to all software (back-doors) and all encryption keys. In addition, all servers doing business in Russia must reside on Russian soil. What this means is that even Western companies like Google and Amazon have to locate their Russian business servers on Russian soil. Rather than honor the principle of privacy like Pavel Durov, these companies willingly cooperate with Putin regime authorities seeking personal/private information about Russian users. Profit trumps privacy. Utilizing repressive laws, there is no such thing as digital phone/app/software/internet privacy in Putin's Russia. By law, Russian authorities must have unfettered access to all digital data and personal information.
 
The Moscow Times | Russian Media Watchdog Asks Court to 'Immediately' Ban Telegram

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April 12, 2018

Russia’s state regulator has asked a court to “immediately” ban the popular Telegram messaging service over its refusal to provide tools to decrypt users' messages. The Roskomnadzor media watchdog moved to block Telegram after it missed a deadline last week to turn over tools to decrypt online communication to the government. Moscow’s Tagansky District Court is scheduled to decide the messenger's fate at a trial scheduled for Friday, April 13. “Since Telegram did not provide keys to decode messages, we are filing a request to immediately enforce the court ruling,” Interfax cited a Roskomnadzor representative as saying. The Tagansky District Court court has also satisfied Roskomnadzor’s request to include Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) as a third party in the case.
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By law, the Russian media watchdog (Roskomnadzor) and Russia's security services must have access to all Russian media, computers, servers, websites, blogs, software programs, social media, phones, and apps.
 
Russia to ban Telegram messenger over encryption dispute

April 13, 2018

MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian court on Friday ordered that access to the Telegram messenger service be blocked in Russia, heralding possible communication disruption for millions of users in the latest clash between global technology firms and Russian authorities. The decision came a week after state communication watchdog, Roskomnadzor, filed a lawsuit to limit access to Telegram following the company’s repeated refusal to give Russian state security services access to its users’ secret messages. As part of its services, Telegram allows its more than 200 million global users to communicate via encrypted messages which cannot be read by third parties, including government authorities.
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This is how freedom works in Putin's Russia. The state must have access to everything. No privacy allowed.

To all Telegram message users, the Kremlin will soon be shutting down the encrypted app. If/when it is activated again, the Russian security services will have access to your encrypted Telegram messages.
 
The encrypted messaging app Telegram is now banned in the Russian Federation because founder/owner Pavel Durov would not provide Russian security services a means to decrypt messages.

The Russian government announced it will now switch to ICQ for messaging.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The encrypted messaging app Telegram is now banned in the Russian Federation because founder/owner Pavel Durov would not provide Russian security services a means to decrypt messages.

The Russian government announced it will now switch to ICQ for messaging.
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Golly Whompers, you have bumped this thread three times, you must really want to talk about this.

What's on your mind Kemosabe, why are we here?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Golly Whompers, you have bumped this thread three times, you must really want to talk about this.

What's on your mind Kemosabe, why are we here?
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You would't get it anyway.
 
Amid Bid To Block Telegram, Russian Regulator Warns Facebook

In an effort to stop using Telegram and comply with its own law, the Russian government is now using the messaging app TamTam which is owned by Kremlin-linked oligarch Alisher Usmanov’s Mail.ru Group.

The FSB security service has the encryption keys to TamTam ... so messages are not protected from Russian government snooping.
 
In an immense effort to close down the encrypted messaging app Telegram in Russia (50 million Russian users/200 million worldwide), Russia's state communication watchdog, Roskomnadzor, shut down over 100 servers related to Telegram. Unfortunately for Roskomnadzor, this also shut down a good portion of the Russian internet including government services. Roskomnadzor was forced to backpedal. Moscow is discovering that Russia is more tightly bound to the World Wide Web than was realized or desired by the Putin regime.
 
The Moscow Times | Google Services Blocked in Russia Following Telegram Ban

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April 23, 2018

Russian users are experiencing difficulty accessing Google services such as Gmail and YouTube after authorities blacklisted some of the tech giant's IP addresses. “We are aware of reports that some users in Russia are unable to access some Google products, and are investigating those reports,” said Google Russia in a Twitter statement. Russia’s state communications regulator Roskomnadzor blocked Telegram last week after the messaging service refused to comply with a court order to grant security services access to its users’ encrypted communication. Roskomnadzor announced Sunday that it had blacklisted an unspecified number of Google IP addresses that Telegram was using to sidestep the ban. An online service map that monitors live website outages worldwide showed concentrated Google and YouTube search and log-in issues in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Roskomnadzor said Tuesday it had blocked 18 sub-networks and a significant number of IP-addresses belonging to Google and Amazon, preventing Russian users from accessing Telegram and other services that route content through the tech giants. Telegram has been using a technique that allows it to “hop” to a new IP address when the one it’s using is blocked by the Russian censors. Some users have circumvented the block by using virtual private network (VPN) technology, proxies, and third-party cloud services. Google’s inaccessibility during the 2018 FIFA World Cup this summer could affect foreign fans, TechCrunch reported Monday, citing a proxy service co-founder. “They can’t have tourists coming and realizing Google doesn’t work in Russia,” Ilya Andreyev was quoted as saying.
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Europa makes the same and not by Telegram only
 
Rogue Valley said:
Russia to ban Telegram messenger over encryption dispute



This is how freedom works in Putin's Russia. The state must have access to everything. No privacy allowed.

To all Telegram message users, the Kremlin will soon be shutting down the encrypted app. If/when it is activated again, the Russian security services will have access to your encrypted Telegram messages.
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How is this any different that Zuckerberg's Digital Empire grabbing and selling everything we do and say.
You know he has a major hospital named after him in Frisco, right?
If you start off with the attitude NOTHING...I mean NOTHING...digital is private, one will save themselves a lot of anxiety.

Email and text like you would if it would be read out loud in court, because it just might.

(Now if i could just find where i hid my passwords to my FETLIFE and ALT accounts to delete them)

Also...If you want to start a discussion thread yet 11 of 15 total posts are all yours, that is not much of a discussion.
More of a documentary.
 
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PleasantValley said:
~........................................Also...If you want to start a discussion thread yet 11 of 15 total posts are all yours, that is not much of a discussion.
More of a documentary.
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Okay, here ya go then.

Propose how being eavesdropped upon by Russia's FSB is preferable to Zuckerberg selling your (our) info.

Not, to be clear from the outset, that I find anything good to say about Facebook and that's why I'm not on it (nor Whatsapp, nor Insta....nor Twitter).

As to your FETLIFE account, don't worry. I've just deleted it and from what I saw it was high time.:lol:

ALT will take another couple of minutes.;)
 
PleasantValley said:
How is this any different that Zuckerberg's Digital Empire grabbing and selling everything we do and say.
You know he has a major hospital named after him in Frisco, right?
If you start off with the attitude NOTHING...I mean NOTHING...digital is private, one will save themselves a lot of anxiety.

Email and text like you would if it would be read out loud in court, because it just might.

(Now if i could just find where i hid my passwords to my FETLIFE and ALT accounts to delete them)

Also...If you want to start a discussion thread yet 11 of 15 total posts are all yours, that is not much of a discussion.
More of a documentary.
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Your complaint has no relevance to the OP. Two different scenarios.
 
Chagos said:
Okay, here ya go then.

Propose how being eavesdropped upon by Russia's FSB is preferable to Zuckerberg selling your (our) info.

Not, to be clear from the outset, that I find anything good to say about Facebook and that's why I'm not on it (nor Whatsapp, nor Insta....nor Twitter).

As to your FETLIFE account, don't worry. I've just deleted it and from what I saw it was high time.:lol:

ALT will take another couple of minutes.;)
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I will be forever in your debt.
 
Rogue Valley said:
In an immense effort to close down the encrypted messaging app Telegram in Russia (50 million Russian users/200 million worldwide), Russia's state communication watchdog, Roskomnadzor, shut down over 100 servers related to Telegram. Unfortunately for Roskomnadzor, this also shut down a good portion of the Russian internet including government services. Roskomnadzor was forced to backpedal. Moscow is discovering that Russia is more tightly bound to the World Wide Web than was realized or desired by the Putin regime.
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Ah, the law of unintended consequences...
 
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