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European Union: Liberals vs Patriots

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At a recent forum in Brussels organized by El Pais president of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker described 'the right-wing extremism growing in Europe's own backyard' as a far more serious challenge than 'an increasingly aggressive Russia or China'. Juncker qualified nationalism as a war and called traditional parties not to accept the right-wing initiatives. Former Spanish Prime Minister Felipe González burst even in more bombastic words. He proudly declared that Spain hadn't fallen victim to populist politics 'with the exception of Carles Puigdemont'. At the same time the former prime minister complained of numerous social and political problems facing Spain now. The ways to solve them had all been offered by the nationalists and slanted as unacceptable.

In the meantime, other European leaders are applying vigorous efforts to oppose the so called ultra-right elements. For instance, Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Löfven in his letter to Germany's SPD head Martin Schulz suggests that his party should rather sacrifice some basic foundations to form a new CDU/CSU alliance. The Prime Minister of Sweden believes such a union is vital in fighting the notoriously known nationalistic forces of Germany (AfD) and Sweden (Swedish Democrats).

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Dear Mr. Schulz,

Let me once again congratulate you on the results achieved during the elections. We are glad that social democratic ideas, which the SPD defends under your leadership, have found wide resonance in the hearts of German voters.

We are closely following the recent developments in Germany and Europe in general. And with great regret we are obliged to note that right-wing populists succeed in receiving an increasing number of votes and winning seats in Parliaments everywhere. Surely, you realize it forces European democrats to make a difficult choice that we cannot ignore.

In Germany, as in many other European countries, right-wing forces manifested in the Alternative for Germany promote the country's shift to the far right by hiding behind anti-Islamic, racist, anti-refugee hate slogans, and thus compromising Germany as a tolerant and inclusive state. Unfortunately, the situation in Sweden is similar. The activities of such anti-European nationalist party as the Sweden Democrats also impede further development of our country in line with social democracy.

I firmly believe that the strength of European nations is their unity. Only jointly we can be victorious over nationalism. And Germany as a universally recognized leader in the EU must demonstrate that it stands at the forefront of the fight against ultra-right radicalism and neo-fascism. In our view, signing of the coalition treaty between the SPD, CDU and CSU can significantly contribute to this process.

Being a long-standing social democrat I would urge you, Mr. Schulz, to do all in your power to ensure the early formation of the Federal Government of Germany even if this requires a departure from ideological principles to which we are all firmly committed.

On the present occasion, I would like to express to you my deepest personal regards.

Yours sincerely,

Stefan Löfven



Interestingly, Juncker, González, and Löfven are absolutely precarious in their condemnation of the so called ultra-right forces. None of them has managed to prove so far why the position of 'the radicals' has no right for existence. Judging by their rhetoric, all those directly pointing to any errors of the EU leaders and coming up with effective solutions of the problems, without looking back at that precious tolerance or multiculturalism, should be branded as some harmful elements. Brexit is evil, and every referendum on separation is evil undoubtedly.

Then why do they completely deny their responsibility for the emergence of those centrifugal trends? Meanwhile, it was exactly that multicultural approach and disastrous migrant policy of the liberal politicians standing behind the EU wheel that put true European values and culture on the brink of extinction.

Citizens of the united Europe are well in the know of this and prefer to support people opposing extraneous views being imposed on them against their will. It is no mere chance that after 'the far right' FPÖ victory at the elections in Austria Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán stated, 'Democracy has been restored in Austria because the Austrians who reject immigration elected a government that also does not want immigration'.
 
Democracy is under threat in Austria and everywhere the far right sticks it's ugly head out. Viktor Orbán is the poster boy of far right anti democratic populism. There is no free press in Hungary anymore and the country is run by Orbán loyalists, both in government and the private sector. Poland is following suit with its anti democratic changes to the legal system...same place Orbán started.

The far right uses the fear of strangers to gain political power. It is no different than what Hitler did with the Jews and others. Once they are in power, they will do anything to a sure that the stay. Orbán is never going to lose power in Hungary, ad the electoral system has been changed to a sure that.



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I think it is obvious that far right politicians have become more and more a danger in Europe. Jobbik in Hungary or the Front National in France are very good examples for this development, but I disagree with the theory that a "Grand Coalition" of the Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats in Germany will be the solution, in contrast such a coalition will reinforce populists from both sides of the political spectre. The result of the last four years of grand coalition have had as result that the AfD increase to 12% and the former big parties decreased to medium-sized parties, in special the SPD. Too many coalitions of this type do not seem to be very successful against populism, because the voters do not get a centre-alternative for the actual government. A CDU headed centre right government can normally replaced by an SPD headed centre left government, but at the moment the voters did not have seen a democratic alternative in the centre of the political spectre, so that the substantial differences between the Social Democrats and the Christian Democrats vanish. Sure there are the both minor parties, the Greens and the FDP, which are too part of the pro-European centre, however their potential is very limited. I cannot imagine that either is able to become a big player. So I think that the best solution in Germany would be a CDU headed minority-government with the Greens which will be tolerated by the Liberals. This government would be pro-European, there would not be so many inconsistencies as in a grand coalition and the SPD could get new strength in opposition as a potential alternative in a few years. But so, the CDU/CSU and the SPD will lose more and more of their profile and I am pretty sure that in the next elections, we would have an AfD which will be stronger as the SPD and that's a problem for Europe.
 
liberals versus patriots? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Who are the patriots and who the hell are European liberals? It almost sounds like it was written by someone who little understanding of European politics.
 
Yes, political polarization is the biggest threats to Democracy. And it is not one side to blame.
 
liberals versus patriots? What the hell is that supposed to mean? Who are the patriots and who the hell are European liberals? It almost sounds like it was written by someone who little understanding of European politics.

Peter King - I would have to agree. I think Patriots would have to be right wing Nationalists and I suspect the liberals are the pro EU left wing.

PeteEU - I would have to agree with you too. What Mr Orban is doing in Austria reeks of tyranny.
 


Peter King - I would have to agree. I think Patriots would have to be right wing Nationalists and I suspect the liberals are the pro EU left wing.

PeteEU - I would have to agree with you too. What Mr Orban is doing in Austria reeks of tyranny.

Except that right wing nationalist are not patriots (most betray our democratic values) and the liberals are not left wing, they are moderate right wing politicians. They may be pro-Europe but they are not left wing.

As said, written by someone who has no idea about European politics.
 
OK I've read some interesting 'claims' here but...

Hungary does still have a 'free press'.
Czech, Austria, Hungary and all the nations to the east of them, want nothing to do with these 'refugees'.
Maybe...just maybe mind you...its sort of time to admit there's a real problem and work on it honestly, before Europe splits in 2...again.

And while we're pondering this...
Massimo Trefiletti proudly proclaims himself and his party as fascists. The irony of standing opposite a monument to their defeat doesn't escape him. Mr Trefiletti says 25 April 1945 isn't a day of national pride but of loss. As for the future, he wants Italy to turn its back on the EU, close its borders and deport all the immigrants.
Italian election dominated by immigration debate - BBC News

Italy is going to hold this election and the leader in the polls right now is Silvio Berlusconi. He too is not a fan of the 'refugees' or the EU.
 
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