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Turkish capital Ankara bans all gay rights functions

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[url="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42043910]Turkish capital Ankara bans all gay rights functions[/url]


BBC
19 November 2017

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The Turkish capital Ankara has banned all gay festivals, screenings, forums and exhibitions on security grounds. The governor's office said on Sunday that it also wanted to protect public order and sensitivities. The announcement follows a move last week to ban a festival of German-language gay films also due to have been held in the city. Homosexuality is legal in Turkey but activists say homophobia is rampant. ["From Saturday] 18 November until further notice, all film and theatre events, screenings, panels, colloquium, exhibitions, etc... have been banned," the city administration said on its website. It argues that such functions in Ankara and its surrounding province are likely to "provoke reactions within certain segments" of society and are also at risk of being targeted by "terrorists".

The announcement is likely to increase concern among gay activists in Turkey that their rights are being curtailed under the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his Justice and Development Party (AKP), which is rooted in conservative Islam. The perceived erosion of civil liberties in Turkey has caused concern in the West following the failed military coup of July 2016. More than 50,000 people have been jailed since then, many accused of having links to the plotters. About 150,000 people mostly working for the government have been sacked or suspended. In a statement announcing the German film ban last week, the office of Ankara Governor Mehmet Kılıclar said the festival's content "could incite grudges and enmity toward a part of society".

Recep Tayyip Erdogan is also about to begin militarily occupying the Kurdish region of Rojava in northern Turkey and cleanse it of the YPG/YPJ. These are the militia that fought shoulder-to-shoulder with US Special Forces to defeat ISIS in central Syria and liberate the ISIS capitol city of Raqqa.
 
[url="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42043910]Turkish capital Ankara bans all gay rights functions[/url]




Recep Tayyip Erdogan is also about to begin militarily occupying the Kurdish region of Rojava in northern Turkey and cleanse it of the YPG/YPJ. These are the militia that fought shoulder-to-shoulder with US Special Forces to defeat ISIS in central Syria and liberate the ISIS capitol city of Raqqa.

There's nothing surprising about this. It'll take decades to clean up the foreign policy messes created by Obama.
 
There's nothing surprising about this. It'll take decades to clean up the foreign policy messes created by Obama.

I’m no Obama fan. But to be faire, he didn’t start the fire.
 
Not trying to be "that guy" but Ankara is in the Middle-East portion of Turkey.
 
Not trying to be "that guy" but Ankara is in the Middle-East portion of Turkey.

Turkey's largest city, Istanbul, is in Europe. Hence NATO membership and the EU application.

Turkey is not a member of the Arab League and Turks are not a Semitic people. 13%-30% have Asian genes while the majority are Caucasian.
 
Turkey has really been regressing.
 
Turkey has really been regressing.

Tremendously so under Erdogan and the AK party. They are waging war on secularism, all political opposition, and ethnic Kurds within and beyond Turkey.
 
Turkey's largest city, Istanbul, is in Europe. Hence NATO membership and the EU application.

Uhh... wha? Turkey is not in NATO because of Istanbul being between Europe and Anatolia (only half of Istanbul is in Eastern Thrace, by the way), Turkey is in NATO exactly because of its capital city, and majority (75% of the country) being located on the Anatolian Peninsula bordering Iraq, Syria, Iran, and the core Middle-East, while also bordering the Black Sea and Balkan Peninsula. Because of this, Turkey is strategically important to NATO and the U.S. It should also be duly noted that the most powerful military (followed closely behind by Turkey) is the United States, which is American - not European. And Turkey will likely not be getting into the EU, even if it qualified - after the NATO chief's fopdoodling error at the exercise in Norway last week - Erdogan would likely turn it down.

Turkey is not a member of the Arab League and Turks are not a Semitic people.

... uh... Arabic and Middle-Eastern are not the same thing. Did you... seriously not know that?

13%-30% have Asian genes while the majority are Caucasian.

Incorrect. Caucasian denotes origination from the Caucasus. Furthermore, ...

Turkey connects the Middle East, Europe, and Asia and has experienced major population movements. We examined the population structure and genetic relatedness of samples from three regions of Turkey using over 500,000 SNP genotypes. The data were analyzed together with Human Genome Diversity Panel data. To obtain a more representative sampling from Central Asia, Kyrgyz samples (Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan) were genotyped and analyzed. Principal component (PC) analysis reveals a significant overlap between Turks and Middle Easterners and a relationship with Europeans and South and Central Asians; however, the Turkish genetic structure is unique. FRAPPE, STRUCTURE, and phylogenetic analyses support the PC analysis depending upon the number of parental ancestry components chosen. For example, supervised STRUCTURE (K = 3) illustrates a genetic ancestry for the Turks of 45% Middle Eastern (95% CI, 42–49), 40% European (95% CI, 36–44), and 15% Central Asian (95% CI, 13–16), whereas at K = 4 the genetic ancestry of the Turks was 38% European (95% CI, 35–42), 35% Middle Eastern (95% CI, 33–38), 18% South Asian (95% CI, 16–19), and 9% Central Asian (95% CI, 7–11).

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There's nothing surprising about this. It'll take decades to clean up the foreign policy messes created by Obama.

And Obama is to blame for this because? Should he have had Erdogan assassinated or something?
 
trump loves him some strong men like erdogan; trump fancies himself as a Benito strongman; both Flynn's are in deep manure with their Turkuah/erdogan connections $$$
 
And Obama is to blame for this because? Should he have had Erdogan assassinated or something?

Instead of bolstering Turkey and wasting hundreds of billions of dollars training radical Islamic terrorists "moderate rebels", he should have been boosting Kurds from the start. The Kurds are one of the few who have been constantly and consistently fighting against all forms of extremists in the region.
 
I'm glad I visited Turkey before it went all dogmatic insane.
 
Instead of bolstering Turkey and wasting hundreds of billions of dollars training radical Islamic terrorists "moderate rebels", he should have been boosting Kurds from the start. The Kurds are one of the few who have been constantly and consistently fighting against all forms of extremists in the region.

So in other words fund groups a NATO ally sees as a rebel force, that is not something you can do, explicitly anyways.
 
So in other words fund groups a NATO ally sees as a rebel force, that is not something you can do, explicitly anyways.

The YPG/YPJ have fought shoulder-to-shoulder with US special forces since the siege of Kobane (2014/2015).

They are the militia that liberated the ISIS capital city of Raqqa last month.
 
Why should I care how Turkey treats Gay Rights that we have here on the other side of the planet?
 
Why should I care how Turkey treats Gay Rights that we have here on the other side of the planet?
Nobody says you should.

Just as nobody says you need to visit a thread or forum that you don't care about anyway.
 
Nobody says you should.

Just as nobody says you need to visit a thread or forum that you don't care about anyway.

Wait, what?
What's with the attitude?
 
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