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UK- Asylum Seekers Raped Children in Newcastle

Funny how the OP never talks about the far more cases of child abuse and grooming done by non asylum seekers and non Muslims...

Anyone who commits such crimes, AND is a naturally born citizen is equally as reprehensible. But, that's not the point, and you know it. He is talking about people who have been brought into the country on humanitarian terms, and thank their host by raping their daughters. It's the poisoned M&M analogy brought to life.

(I'm still waiting for anyone in the don't-blame-Islam club to say, "As much as I sympathize with the victims.....".
 
In fact under your definition of resisting multiculturalism, i can't think a major empire throughout history, the Romans, the Franks, the people of the Steppe, the Chinese, Portugal, Spain, England, that DONT to some extent meet some of your definition of resisting multiculturalism

Actually, if you'll study a bit, you'd find that the "people of the Steppe" were quite multicultural. The Mongols didn't have a "preferred" religion - some of Genghis Khan's sons took wives that were Nestorian Christian and others who were Muslim...and these wives could be powerful indeed - one was even the de facto ruler of the Mongol Empire for a few years after her husband (I think it was Mongke Khan) died.

For the others, it was about three hundred years ago that the West began to realize that multiculturalism was not quite so bad, that it carried more benefits than problems. Of course it didn't happen overnight - it took centuries. But the more people had to interact with those of other cultures (or races or ethnicities), generally speaking, the more they (slowly) began to accept the "otherness" as normal.

That being said, no one's right all the time. There's no one here who is always right...and this is one of the times I'm wrong. I'm wrong in the details of what I stated (as you rightly pointed out)...but in the overall scheme of things, in the grand arch of history, humanity is slowly, ever so slowly bending towards acceptance of those whose skin is different, or who hold different religious beliefs. We're not there yet - indeed, we'll never reach that destination of a "prejudice-free" world...but that doesn't mean that the journey is not worth making, and most of humanity is on that journey today.
 
"London has more muggings than San Salvador" - in raw numbers, you're probably right...but when it comes to the RATE - which is far more important than the raw numbers - you're almost certainly very wrong. If a town of 10,000 has two murders, and a city of 10,000,000 has 500 murders, the city of 10M is four times safer than that town of 10,000...meaning that the people in that small town are four times more likely to be murdered than in that city of 10M.

That's why it's crucial to pay attention to the RATE and not simply look at the raw numbers.

Also, when it comes to NYC, perhaps you should reread what I wrote - when I said that NYC has just over half the homicide rate of the state of Louisiana, that's another way of saying that NYC is about twice as SAFE as Louisiana...that one is almost twice as likely to be murdered in Louisiana than in NYC. I've pointed out many times on DP how safe NYC is compared to many other places in America.

Concerning Marseilles, I'm not at all impressed, much less concerned. The corruption you describe is small potatoes indeed compared to most of the third world. Overseas, I've paid off cops several times, and even paid off a judge to get my brother in law out of jail - try doing that in America sometime! But back to Marseilles, it's about as dangerous as New York City (which isn't that dangerous, as you yourself admit):

Marseille, with its population of 800,000, has nearly as many drug-related murders proportionally as New York City, with a population 10 times higher.


Pay attention to the bolded word: "proportionally". If anything, instead of telling you that Marseilles isn't that bad, this should be an indication of just how bad America is, since NYC is one of our safest big cities. Again, it's the RATE and not the raw numbers which is what's important.

One last thing: always use "Reply with quote"...because otherwise, I probably won't see your reply. Oh, and unless you're also retired military, please stop making assumptions about what I did or didn't do overseas, for (again, unless you're retired military) it's VERY unlikely you have any clue about what I did or did not do overseas.

I'm a forcibly retired (friendly fire) MP, forcibly fired NYPD Gold Shield (two rounds in the right leg), intentionally retired from one of the most active private security companies on the east coast, which I founded.

Despite its vernacular acceptance, the word "cop" is an insult. It derives from the ability to buy off a police officer for a couple of coppers (pennies).

Ratios are important determinates for understanding levels of violence, however, like all statistics, numbers without context can be manipulated, viewed without appropriate understanding, and so forth. Generally when we speak of dangerous violent activities, we speak of a combination of professional criminal activity and domestic violence. Rarely do we include the violence of government sponsored activity like death squads at the extreme, or corrupt police forces which can lead to (in the specified country) a federal (military) interruption for amelioration.

When I don't reply "with quote" either an oversight, or with a specific intention.
 
Yet they are happy to visit Pearl Harbor without any sign of contrition.

Btw, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Japan on the list of countries who do well minus a lot of immigration, although that will have to change due to Japan's birth rate.

Japan's "doing well minus a lot of immigration"? Their economy has sucked for 20 years - it's only recently that they've really started to recover.
 
Oh, so you think you're an expert on European geopolitics because you went to Europe on vacation. Lol.

Of course not. It wasn't a vacation. And I wasn't a tourist.

That being said, I've traveled Europe extensively, still have family in a dozen European countries, and I have extensively studied European history and cultures for personal gratification. I was hosteling in Prague when the tanks rolled in, joined the other kids in throwing rocks at the Russian tanks. Not a brilliant move on my part. When we're young we think of ourselves as immortal. I could tell you of some amorous experiences I enjoyed that summer, but there weren't any.

No one can be an expert on European geopolitics, mostly because their politicians and historians lie more often than American politicians and historians. Both intentionally and unintentionally.

I'd be willing to wager, if my assessment of Irish popular sentiment is correct, despite the economic advantages of EU membership, Ireland will be the next to pull a Brexit. The momentum is building rapidly.
 
I'm a forcibly retired (friendly fire) MP, forcibly fired NYPD Gold Shield (two rounds in the right leg), intentionally retired from one of the most active private security companies on the east coast, which I founded.

Despite its vernacular acceptance, the word "cop" is an insult. It derives from the ability to buy off a police officer for a couple of coppers (pennies).

Ratios are important determinates for understanding levels of violence, however, like all statistics, numbers without context can be manipulated, viewed without appropriate understanding, and so forth. Generally when we speak of dangerous violent activities, we speak of a combination of professional criminal activity and domestic violence. Rarely do we include the violence of government sponsored activity like death squads at the extreme, or corrupt police forces which can lead to (in the specified country) a federal (military) interruption for amelioration.

When I don't reply "with quote" either an oversight, or with a specific intention.

No offense, but the experience you had in the NYPD does not compare with the military. Yes, service in the PD of a major city is generally more dangerous - absolutely no question about that - but your experience does not compare to mine, just as mine cannot compare to yours. We'd both have stories - you'd certainly have more "horror stories" than I would, but when it comes to experiencing other cultures, I'd probably have more. Yes, you'd experience many other cultures in NYC...but experiencing them stateside is nothing like experiencing them overseas.

I will say thanks for letting me know that "cop" is seen as an insult - I didn't know that.

But I stand by my statements that the cities of western Europe are much safer than those here in America...and the two rounds you took in your right leg are the biggest single factor (but not the only factor) in the reason why.
 
Nice try - and one I saw coming yesterday. Sure, America became a superpower while enforcing Jim Crow laws...but the attempt by racists to preserve those Jim Crow laws almost tore this nation apart. We overcame - or (more accurately) are still overcoming - the racist baggage that our ancestors left us. Or at least most of us are (since the white nationalists and our president are obviously not interested in doing their part). Most of America is making a good-faith effort to look past religion, race, and ethnicity...and I think you would have to agree with that statement.

Let's speak of the Anti-Chinese League. Even tho the concept of "race" was created to justify European imperialist colonialism, bigotry will never end. The word "wog" has reappeared in the British vernacular. Many were pleased when Lawrence died in that motorcycle accident, and the investigation into who had tampered with the brake cable on that BSA was suppressed from continuing. Most of white America is silent about their agreement with the White Supremicists. Their silence is not a good faith effort.

I suggest you spend some time with Black Americans and hear their hatred of Asians. Better yet, spend some time in Jamaican (and other Caribbean) American neighborhoods and hear their hatred of American Black peoples.
 
Japan's "doing well minus a lot of immigration"? Their economy has sucked for 20 years - it's only recently that they've really started to recover.

Sucked is relative. And did they recover with or without massive immigration?
 
Actually, if you'll study a bit, you'd find that the "people of the Steppe" were quite multicultural.

You do understand that only a very small portion of modern Mongolia, which is a larger territory than occupied by the proto Mongolians of Genghis' era, is part of the Russian Steppe? The first accomplishment of Genghis after he united the Mongol tribes was to kill as many Tartars (the enemies of the Mongols thanks to the Chin, who played one against the other, keeping them both to busy to invade the smaller buffer western empire guarding China) as possible and then to chase the remainder off lands he claimed to the Russian Steppe. The Mongols were never multiculturalists. Building a fast running army with metal stirrups allowing for archers to fire arrows while standing in the saddle and retreating is one thing, managing conquered territory and its peoples another. With the political traditions of the time, the surest way to dominate rulership and make political alliances was by marriage. King Solomon of Israel, long before the Mongols descended to build the world's largest empire, was rumored to have more than a one thousand wives and concubines in his harem, busy guy. The Mongols did just that, wherever they conquered, especially since they were a numerical minority, the married into the ruling classes. They did not accept other cultures into their own, instead they integrated quickly into the cultures they conquered, becoming Chinafied, Indiafied and so on. The Moghuls and Maharajahs of India were descendants of the Mongols. Now many of their descendants, who fled India with decolonization and their fortunes, live in Britain. They have been Oxfordized, and control 90% of the world's luxury hotel investments. They are among the most elitist people of today's world.

Your idealism is commendable and noble, but like all idealism, rarely reflecting the realities of this world. Early theories of communism searched for utopian democracies. They ended up as totalitarians, a word invented by Mussolini, the originator of fascism.

"I'm so confused." - Vinnie Barbarino (aka John "revolta" Travolta before Saturday Night Fever)
 
Anyone who commits such crimes, AND is a naturally born citizen is equally as reprehensible. But, that's not the point, and you know it. He is talking about people who have been brought into the country on humanitarian terms, and thank their host by raping their daughters. It's the poisoned M&M analogy brought to life.

(I'm still waiting for anyone in the don't-blame-Islam club to say, "As much as I sympathize with the victims.....".


OK, I grant your wish, As much as I sympathize with the victims.....
 
You do understand that only a very small portion of modern Mongolia, which is a larger territory than occupied by the proto Mongolians of Genghis' era, is part of the Russian Steppe? The first accomplishment of Genghis after he united the Mongol tribes was to kill as many Tartars (the enemies of the Mongols thanks to the Chin, who played one against the other, keeping them both to busy to invade the smaller buffer western empire guarding China) as possible and then to chase the remainder off lands he claimed to the Russian Steppe. The Mongols were never multiculturalists. Building a fast running army with metal stirrups allowing for archers to fire arrows while standing in the saddle and retreating is one thing, managing conquered territory and its peoples another. With the political traditions of the time, the surest way to dominate rulership and make political alliances was by marriage. King Solomon of Israel, long before the Mongols descended to build the world's largest empire, was rumored to have more than a one thousand wives and concubines in his harem, busy guy. The Mongols did just that, wherever they conquered, especially since they were a numerical minority, the married into the ruling classes. They did not accept other cultures into their own, instead they integrated quickly into the cultures they conquered, becoming Chinafied, Indiafied and so on. The Moghuls and Maharajahs of India were descendants of the Mongols. Now many of their descendants, who fled India with decolonization and their fortunes, live in Britain. They have been Oxfordized, and control 90% of the world's luxury hotel investments. They are among the most elitist people of today's world.

Your idealism is commendable and noble, but like all idealism, rarely reflecting the realities of this world. Early theories of communism searched for utopian democracies. They ended up as totalitarians, a word invented by Mussolini, the originator of fascism.

"I'm so confused." - Vinnie Barbarino (aka John "revolta" Travolta before Saturday Night Fever)

"control 90% of the world's luxury hotel investments"? I'm so doubtful that all I can say is, "up your nose with a rubber hose".
 
Let's speak of the Anti-Chinese League. Even tho the concept of "race" was created to justify European imperialist colonialism, bigotry will never end. The word "wog" has reappeared in the British vernacular. Many were pleased when Lawrence died in that motorcycle accident, and the investigation into who had tampered with the brake cable on that BSA was suppressed from continuing. Most of white America is silent about their agreement with the White Supremicists. Their silence is not a good faith effort.

I suggest you spend some time with Black Americans and hear their hatred of Asians. Better yet, spend some time in Jamaican (and other Caribbean) American neighborhoods and hear their hatred of American Black peoples.

I agree that bigotry will never end - but that doesn't mean we should ever stop fighting it.

No, the concept of race was NOT created to "justify European imperialist colonialism" - the concept of race was used long before, as you yourself pointed out with your diatribe about the Mongols.

And I suggest you stop making rank assumptions about how much time I have or have not spent with minorities, whether they be black or Asian or whatever. Sometimes I do make a mistake by making an assumption...but in our discussions, you've done so again and again and again. Right now as I type this, about six feet away from me is the one I take care of. He first came to us at age 4, back in 1999, and now that he's aged out of the Foster care system, he's an adult and I'm "just" his caregiver. He's got a trach, g-tube, rods in his back, seizure disorders, and more. He's aware and alert...but he's unable to ever tell us where it hurts. He's also black. Some of my closest friends back in the Navy were black...and no, they had few if any problems with the Asians they worked with and worked for.

As I told you before, I spent a year attending a "segregation academy" down in MS. The year immediately afterwards, I attended a public school that had 480 students - about 20 of whom were white. That was also the year that "Roots" was aired. Except for that 'academy', all the schools I attended in the Delta were strongly majority-black.

So please stop with your assumptions, willya? I've spent more time around blacks than most whites. When it comes to the neighborhoods you mentioned, those neighborhoods are NOT representative of the whole, or even of the majority. If a neighborhood with many Jamaicans in it becomes strongly involved in the drug trade, does that mean that all (or even most) Jamaicans are drug dealers or criminals? Of course not. It just means that many in THAT neighborhood got involved in it.

Come to think of it, I'm starting to wonder if you have ever learned to recognize your assumptions for what they are...so that's your homework assignment: before you say or write something, first determine whether that something is provable or demonstrable...or whether it's an assumption. Yes, we all make assumptions sometimes, and sometimes we all make wrong assumptions...but you've made so many assumptions about me in our discussion that I think it's necessary to point this out to you. Yeah, I get it, you're probably either shaking your head in disgust or disappointment or even anger...but just because you're old, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't continue to learn.
 
I hate misrepresentation. If you tell me exactly how that was done here, I will join you in saying so.
I laid out my issues with the OP in post #4. Again, that wasn't making any comment of any of the issues related to it, just about the flaws in the OP. We can't have intelligent discussions about any of those issues without clarifying those flaws.
 
"control 90% of the world's luxury hotel investments"? I'm so doubtful that all I can say is, "up your nose with a rubber hose".

Ignorance is bliss. Please do tell of your sailor's experience in the world of luxury hotel investing, not ownership, investing. Tell me who the Vohra's may be? That's a single family, and you can not only tell us what they own, but who they invest in as conduits to the luxury hotel markets everywhere. It must all be at a sailor's fingertips, because you won't find the name on the net often enough to draw any conclusions.
 
I agree that bigotry will never end - but that doesn't mean we should ever stop fighting it.

No, the concept of race was NOT created to "justify European imperialist colonialism" - the concept of race was used long before, as you yourself pointed out with your diatribe about the Mongols.

And I suggest you stop making rank assumptions about how much time I have or have not spent with minorities, whether they be black or Asian or whatever. Sometimes I do make a mistake by making an assumption...but in our discussions, you've done so again and again and again. Right now as I type this, about six feet away from me is the one I take care of. He first came to us at age 4, back in 1999, and now that he's aged out of the Foster care system, he's an adult and I'm "just" his caregiver. He's got a trach, g-tube, rods in his back, seizure disorders, and more. He's aware and alert...but he's unable to ever tell us where it hurts. He's also black. Some of my closest friends back in the Navy were black...and no, they had few if any problems with the Asians they worked with and worked for.

As I told you before, I spent a year attending a "segregation academy" down in MS. The year immediately afterwards, I attended a public school that had 480 students - about 20 of whom were white. That was also the year that "Roots" was aired. Except for that 'academy', all the schools I attended in the Delta were strongly majority-black.

So please stop with your assumptions, willya? I've spent more time around blacks than most whites. When it comes to the neighborhoods you mentioned, those neighborhoods are NOT representative of the whole, or even of the majority. If a neighborhood with many Jamaicans in it becomes strongly involved in the drug trade, does that mean that all (or even most) Jamaicans are drug dealers or criminals? Of course not. It just means that many in THAT neighborhood got involved in it.

Come to think of it, I'm starting to wonder if you have ever learned to recognize your assumptions for what they are...so that's your homework assignment: before you say or write something, first determine whether that something is provable or demonstrable...or whether it's an assumption. Yes, we all make assumptions sometimes, and sometimes we all make wrong assumptions...but you've made so many assumptions about me in our discussion that I think it's necessary to point this out to you. Yeah, I get it, you're probably either shaking your head in disgust or disappointment or even anger...but just because you're old, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't continue to learn.

The Mongols weren't concerned with race, they were concerned with tribalism. "Race" as descriptive of different human ethnicities first appears in 1501 by a French cartographer Erce Rennille to describe the different inhabitants of the shores on his charts as France sought colonies to compete with the Portuguese, Spanish and Dutch. The word becomes common in English as the British enter the slave trade big time, during the 1630's. The first recorded utterance of the word racism was by a man named Richard Henry Pratt in 1902.

Babbling is a warning sign for oncoming dementia. There are many new medications that can either forestall, halt or reverse dementia if diagnosed early. Please do tell the color of my skin.

Eldridge Cleaver was correct when he said "Black Power means no more pandering rich white liberals who hide their daughters when we show up for dinner. We'll have their daughters, no matter, put them to work under the mastery of our beautiful and proud black Queens."
 
Anyone who commits such crimes, AND is a naturally born citizen is equally as reprehensible. But, that's not the point, and you know it. He is talking about people who have been brought into the country on humanitarian terms, and thank their host by raping their daughters. It's the poisoned M&M analogy brought to life.

(I'm still waiting for anyone in the don't-blame-Islam club to say, "As much as I sympathize with the victims.....".

No he is talking about Muslims and singling them all out because of the actions of the few. What these guys did, was not because they were foreigners or Muslims... it was because they were men.
 
No he is talking about Muslims and singling them all out because of the actions of the few. What these guys did, was not because they were foreigners or Muslims... it was because they were men.

You're still missing the point on purpose. The problem is that asylum seekers are committing crimes. The hand that feeds is getting bitten by the stray that was taken in. THAT is the issue you're bending over backwards to avoid addressing.
 
I laid out my issues with the OP in post #4. Again, that wasn't making any comment of any of the issues related to it, just about the flaws in the OP. We can't have intelligent discussions about any of those issues without clarifying those flaws.

Ok, fair enough. I think my complaint about asylum seekers biting the hand that not only feeds them, but saves their lives in the first place, is the real argument.
 
You're still missing the point on purpose. The problem is that asylum seekers are committing crimes. The hand that feeds is getting bitten by the stray that was taken in. THAT is the issue you're bending over backwards to avoid addressing.

Yes some asylum seekers are committing crimes.. a vast majority are not. Some of "normal citizens" are also committing crimes (in fact far more than asylum seekers), but do you blame all "normal citizens?"

And I am not avoiding addressing it. Any asylum seeker caught in a crime should be rejected and kicked out.. simple.

But you know as well as I do, the criminal activity of a few asylum seekers is being painted as they all are criminals and to prevent the crimes of the few, we must ban them all from coming here.
 
been travelling for a couple of days, so came across this only today
~.................................Despite its vernacular acceptance, the word "cop" is an insult. It derives from the ability to buy off a police officer for a couple of coppers (pennies).....................~

~.............................I will say thanks for letting me know that "cop" is seen as an insult - I didn't know that...............~
Hardly worth arguing over, nevertheless "cop" (as a verb) has for a long time meant "to take or seize". From French "caper", it found its way into ye aulde English and eventually turned into "copper" to so name the guy (people) doing the seizing. Many Brits still use that term even where the Americanized shortening has meanwhile gained popularity in the UK as well.

The reference to (copper) pennies is however relevant in that a corrupted copper was and is referred to as a bent copper in the UK. The bridge to the coin thus being made where it originally played no role in the naming of policemen.

Learned this from a British copper when stupidly asking whether cop was an acronym for "constable on patrol".:lol:
 
Ignorance is bliss. Please do tell of your sailor's experience in the world of luxury hotel investing, not ownership, investing. Tell me who the Vohra's may be? That's a single family, and you can not only tell us what they own, but who they invest in as conduits to the luxury hotel markets everywhere. It must all be at a sailor's fingertips, because you won't find the name on the net often enough to draw any conclusions.

Yeah, I guess us sailors are SO ignorant about everything - we don't know about anything except how to sail, and where to go whoring overseas, right?

The reason I told you that your career as a policeman does not compare to the career of a military person is this: over a twenty-year career, someone in the military does many, many different jobs. I have training and/or experience in: power plant supervision, operation and maintenance (conventional and nuclear), firefighting, first aid, human resource management, OSHA inspections and training (of an operational air base), database programming and administration, LAN admin, Microsoft Certified Professional, Deming management, law enforcement (including being chief investigator, Chief Master-at-Arms (shipboard equivalent of Chef of Police), assistant (and acting) legal officer), transportation supervision, and more. Since I retired, I've been a Realtor, run an adult family home, been a postal clerk, worked at immigration, and for the past 18 years, I've been a Foster dad of medically-fragile children (autism, spinal muscular atrophy, fetal alcohol syndrome, fetal drug syndrome, cerebal palsy, and more) - this includes not just having them in the house and being their caregivers, but more importantly, managing their care and supervising their nurses and caregivers. There's quite a bit more that I could mention, but I think you see what I mean.

Okay? The reason I really try to never brag is because when it comes to retired military, there's a lot out there who have done quite a bit more than all that. Maybe you've done more than me - I hope you have. But that's why I say that if I haven't done it, I've probably done something like it or am at least familiar with it. Yes, I do know what it takes to sail a ship, and where to go whoring (though most of those places have greatly changed since the last time I did so back in the 1980's), but I hope you get the point that no retired military person was ever "just" a soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine. We wear many, many hats along the way.

So back to your "90% of the world's luxury hotels" claim. A simple Google search shows me that Marriott International has over 5700 properties worldwide, and is run by a guy named Bill Marriott (disclaimer - my brother-in-law is a concierge at one of their hotels in Seattle). AccorHotels - which includes the Fairmont chain - has 3700 hotels and is run by a Frenchman named Gilles Pillesson. The Four Seasons chain is 95% owned by Bill Gates and Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia. The Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group is owned by the Jardine Matheson group...the chairman of which is a Brit by the name of Sir Henry Keswick. I didn't know that this last hotel group was the inspiration of James Clavell's Tai Pan and Noble House - two of my all-time favorite books.

So...do you have anything substantial to back up your claim about those who own "90% of the world's luxury hotels"? One last thing - I'm not afraid to be wrong. I'm grateful when someone shows me I'm wrong...and if someone else admits error, I never rub their nose in it - we're all human, after all.
 
Japan

South Korea

Taiwan

These countries were former Japanese colonies, which is mainly why they are doing well economically. The Japanese Empire was an Asian copy of the British Empire and the Japanese had their own civilizing mission in East Asia, which was industrializing this part of the world and making it resemble Manchester. Imperialism or colonialism in this sense was not exclusively owned by Europeans. In the same way, Hong Kong and Singapore are very prosperous as they were industrialized by the British prior to becoming independent states. Japan currently needs a lot of foreign workers and there are over 1 million Asian temporary workers and students, who are doing low-wage jobs. But the country is closed for asylum seekers who are unlikely to become net contributors to the economy and likely to commit crimes.

The number of foreign workers in Japan surpassed 1 million for the first time last year, as the labor-strapped country struggles to find enough Japanese workers.

Slightly over a million foreigners from countries such as China and Vietnam were working here as of October, labor ministry data showed Friday.

That was up nearly 20 percent from the previous year and a new record for the fourth straight year.

The figures suggest Japan is increasingly turning to overseas workers to plug its labor shortages despite its reluctance to accept them.
 
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Japan


South Korea



Taiwan

Japan got literally burnt to the ground and annihilated after committing some of the worst war crime sin huma history.

South Korea has been stuck with a psycho neighbor to the north and an autocratic regime for many years.

Taiwan lost almost all of its country(China) which is why they are now only Taiwan.
 
These countries were former Japanese colonies, which is mainly why they are doing well economically. The Japanese Empire was an Asian copy of the British Empire and the Japanese had their own civilizing mission in East Asia, which was industrializing this part of the world and making it resemble Manchester. Imperialism or colonialism was not exclusively owned by Europeans. In the same way, Hong Kong and Singapore are very prosperous mainly because they were industrialized by the British.


Japan tried it's colonies like utter ****. They were as incredibly brutal in Korea and Taiwan as they were everywhere else in Asia. They didn't "civilize" anything.
 
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