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Crime in England and Wales is Rising at Fastest Rate in a Decade

Aristaeus said:
What on earth are you talking about? There was one bomber who planned and acted alone and he died in the explosion, how could they arrest him? His house was raided within hours of the attack, so clearly not scared as you claim.
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I thought his family members were arrested too? They were all refugees iirc.

British counterterrorism is fighting a losing battle. Some 20k individuals are on the high risk list at any given time, far too many to monitor.

A community worker told the BBC he had called a hotline five years before the bombing to warn police about Abedi's views and members of Britain’s Libyan diaspora said they had "warned authorities for years" about Manchester's Islamist radicalisation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Manchester_Arena_bombing

Impossible to stop them all, innit?
 
truthatallcost said:
You'd find lots of those places. Detroit, St. Louis, Milwaukee just being a few examples. But my question to you is; do you want to end up like us, or do you want to remain Germany?
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may be we would get more like you if we follow your advise - so no. remain would be better. ;o)
 
german hick said:
You are right, pardon. I wanted to be polite. In fact US is worse.
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US is much worse for overall violent crime. But Germany will become a more violent nation unless they change course. If anyone can do this, I believe Germans can.
 
truthatallcost said:
Europeans, especially Germans, can actually be arrested for talking honestly about this subject. They've actually jailed people who merely expressed an opinion online that was contrary to Mama Merkel. This makes it difficult to have an honest discussion with these people.
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...and you are only honest, if you share this posters opinion. It has a reason why he has this nick. He simply knows the real truth.
 
german hick said:
...and you are only honest, if you share this posters opinion. It has a reason why he has this nick. He simply knows the real truth.
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Now that's a ringing endorsement. Cheers :drink There's hope for Deutschland yet.
 
truthatallcost said:
Demonstrate one statement I've made that isn't true. I dare you. You've been dared.
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"They've actually jailed people who merely expressed an opinion online that was contrary to Mama Merkel".

So, can you provide a link proving having a different opinion to Merkel is a criminal offence?
 
truthatallcost said:
Group behaviors appear to be similar across borders. I'd expect to see the same racial components related to crime in the UK that we see in the USA, and of course we know why the astounding crime rate exists in South Africa.
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Do we? Perhaps you could tell us why the crime rate in S.Africa is high? I know you must really want to tell us your theory as to why... don't be shy. DO you think it has to do with racial components? Do you think black = more crime?
 
german hick said:
uh - I live here and don´t know these areas!!!

Can you do me a favor and name them, that I can manage to avoid them for the security of me and my family! Our lying media and lying politicans keep them secret to us!!!


P.S.: since the trumponian times I simply cannot hear the word "fact" anymore without getting plague. Seems the word changed to something like our german "basta" and must not have to do anything with truth or close research.
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You do know that Chancellor Merkel said that there were 'No-Go-Areas" in North Rheine-Westphalia in April 2017 at the CDU party congress. Of course, she might have had a conflict of interest, but would she really lie about your Heimat? ;)

But all joking aside. There are and have been areas into which it is dangerous for people that don't belong there to venture. In the cities in which I have lived in Germany there were always such bad places. That is true for well dressed, Jewish, Arab looking persons. The areas are smaller and probably still deadly with a smaller probability and it is less likely that you will be raped or shot at. But the likelihood is still high enough for it to be crazy to go there.
 
joG said:
You do know that Chancellor Merkel said that there were 'No-Go-Areas" in North Rheine-Westphalia in April 2017 at the CDU party congress. Of course, she might have had a conflict of interest, but would she really lie about your Heimat? ;)

But all joking aside. There are and have been areas into which it is dangerous for people that don't belong there to venture. In the cities in which I have lived in Germany there were always such bad places. That is true for well dressed, Jewish, Arab looking persons. The areas are smaller and probably still deadly with a smaller probability and it is less likely that you will be raped or shot at. But the likelihood is still high enough for it to be crazy to go there.
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I am Westphalian and there is no place here I would be afraid of. In your logic it may be because I am from here?

@Merkels words: politicians have agendas - may be it´s better for her reelection if she plays the security topic ;o)
 
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truthatallcost said:
Acid attacks are particularity on the rise in England, where men ambush victims with corrosive acid that melts the facial skin and tissue from a victims face, leaving them permanently disfigured. The practice has been brought to the UK from immigrants, primarily Pakistani and Indian men.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/20/world/europe/england-wales-crime-rate.html

And yes, I know- America has a violent crime problem too. No need to share that very old bit o' info again.
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Actually most acid attacks in the UK are committed by white British men, and most victims are also white British men, and this method of violence has been happening in the UK for 200 years.

But hey, who cares what the truth is when you can just try to get another barb in against brown people, right?
 
truthatallcost said:
I've seen it all now....'Trump responsible for rise of acid attacks in UK'.

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I was talking about Trump lemmings like YOU, not the attacks in the UK.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Actually most acid attacks in the UK are committed by white British men, and most victims are also white British men, and this method of violence has been happening in the UK for 200 years.

But hey, who cares what the truth is when you can just try to get another barb in against brown people, right?
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Back up your statements with proof. Every source I've seen suggests that this trend originated in south Asia.
Also, prove your claim that most men lobbing acid at people are white Brits.
 
Aristaeus said:
"They've actually jailed people who merely expressed an opinion online that was contrary to Mama Merkel".

So, can you provide a link proving having a different opinion to Merkel is a criminal offence?
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87 year old grandmother jailed for disagreeing with her government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...10-months-in-prison-for-Holocaust-denial.html

German police raid 36 homes over Facebook postings. Beyond absurd.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/...ed-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html

German man arrested and jailed for disagreeing with his government.

German court sentences Facebook user to jail for xenophobic comments | News | DW | 17.10.2016

And I'll give you one that's closer to you; a Scottish man was arrested for correctly stating that the refugees would become terrorists.

Man Arrested for Posting Offensive Comments on Facebook About Muslim Refugees | Daily Wire

The UK prosecutes it's citizens for these things too.
 
Aristaeus said:
Huh? According to our police, it's mainly organised crime/gang related - stop making up anti-Muslim lies. And in London, it's less than two a day out of a population of 9 million.
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That is not a lie. He is also right about the origin.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Here ya go...

U.K.: Acid Attacks Become a Gruesome Trend | Time.com
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/11/acid-attacks-victorian-britain
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So I'm guessing you based your statements on this;

"The lack of a pattern in the types of victims makes it difficult to police a response to the increase in crimes. Unlike in South Asia, where women are disproportionately targeted by acid attackers, "here, two-thirds of victims are men," Jaf Shah, executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI), tells TIME. Early data suggests that the majority of both attackers and victims are white British men, he says, but the motives span from revenge attacks to hate crimes, domestic abuse, gang crime and organized crime. This "complex picture" is muddied by the lack of a standardized approach to recording these crimes, he says. "You need to have the data otherwise there is a blanket response that doesn’t tackle or reach those communities," he says."

Jaf Shah pins the crimes on white British men, but then has to admit that his data is flawed due to the way these crimes are recorded. I'm not surprised that the UK would employ a Pakistani man who lays all blame for this squarely at the feet of non-Pakistanis though. We've seen the same lack of responsibility with the ongoing child sex grooming gangs, as well as terrorism.
 
truthatallcost said:
So I'm guessing you based your statements on this;

"The lack of a pattern in the types of victims makes it difficult to police a response to the increase in crimes. Unlike in South Asia, where women are disproportionately targeted by acid attackers, "here, two-thirds of victims are men," Jaf Shah, executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI), tells TIME. Early data suggests that the majority of both attackers and victims are white British men, he says, but the motives span from revenge attacks to hate crimes, domestic abuse, gang crime and organized crime. This "complex picture" is muddied by the lack of a standardized approach to recording these crimes, he says. "You need to have the data otherwise there is a blanket response that doesn’t tackle or reach those communities," he says."

Jaf Shah pins the crimes on white British men, but then has to admit that his data is flawed due to the way these crimes are recorded. I'm not surprised that the UK would employ a Pakistani man who lays all blame for this squarely at the feet of non-Pakistanis though. We've seen the same lack of responsibility with the ongoing child sex grooming gangs, as well as terrorism.
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Ah, ok, so your racial bias means research doesn't exist. Cool story, bro.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Ah, ok, so your racial bias means research doesn't exist. Cool story, bro.
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What does this mean to you?

"This "complex picture" is muddied by the lack of a standardized approach to recording these crimes, he says. "You need to have the data otherwise there is a blanket response that doesn’t tackle or reach those communities," he says."

To me, it means 'we don't record these crimes accurately to begin with. Therefore with our lack of evidence, we can safely assume that white men are to blame'.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Ah, ok, so your racial bias means research doesn't exist. Cool story, bro.
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Aw cumawn, somebody serving as executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International is bound to have nothing better to do than lie about the perps.

Especially if he's of that particular skin color (not that I know what he looks like but let's not let anything like that get in the way).

We should start a petition on renaming the whole enterprise to Acid Attack non-white Perpetrators' Apologists Trust. I already see at least two posters here panting, pen-in-hand, like expectant puppies.
 
Aristaeus said:
Do we? Perhaps you could tell us why the crime rate in S.Africa is high? I know you must really want to tell us your theory as to why... don't be shy. DO you think it has to do with racial components? Do you think black = more crime?
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It's not what I think, it's what comprehensive research tells us. Many people have their own theory as to why this fact exists, but I don't think anyone would claim that they commit crime at rates that are identical to their proportion of the overall population.
 
truthatallcost said:
It's not what I think, it's what comprehensive research tells us. Many people have their own theory as to why this fact exists, but I don't think anyone would claim that they commit crime at rates that are identical to their proportion of the overall population.
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Go on then, you racist idiot. Show us the comprehensive research that shows black people are more natually predisposed to committing crime.
 
truthatallcost said:
87 year old grandmother jailed for disagreeing with her government.

German 'Nazi grandma' sentenced to 10 months in prison for Holocaust denial - Telegraph

German police raid 36 homes over Facebook postings. Beyond absurd.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/...ed-of-hateful-postings-over-social-media.html

German man arrested and jailed for disagreeing with his government.

German court sentences Facebook user to jail for xenophobic comments | News | DW | 17.10.2016

And I'll give you one that's closer to you; a Scottish man was arrested for correctly stating that the refugees would become terrorists.

Man Arrested for Posting Offensive Comments on Facebook About Muslim Refugees | Daily Wire

The UK prosecutes it's citizens for these things too.
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So by disagreeing with the government you actually mean breaking the countries laws. I guess child abusers are jailed for disagreeing with the government as well. FFS.
 
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