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Brexit chaos continues...

Peter King said:
Small and medium cars were plenty available in Europe.
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European made ones, the few that made it to North America in the 70s and early 80s (excluding BMW and MB) other than being smaller and more fuel efficient were not very reliable. The Japanese cars were the same size as the European models (in general) but much more reliable.

Given the market penetration of the Japanese manufacturers in the US market I am surprised by how low their market share is in Europe (and has been for a long time.

Now I know Japan's domestic market is heavily protected by non tariff barriers
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
European made ones, the few that made it to North America in the 70s and early 80s (excluding BMW and MB) other than being smaller and more fuel efficient were not very reliable. The Japanese cars were the same size as the European models (in general) but much more reliable.

Given the market penetration of the Japanese manufacturers in the US market I am surprised by how low their market share is in Europe (and has been for a long time.

Now I know Japan's domestic market is heavily protected by non tariff barriers
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Except that Japanese car manufacturers make cars in Europe, almost 1.5 million.

Japanese cars are rather popular in Europe. I have had 2 myself, a toyota and a mitsubishi car. There are 14 Japanese car factories (in 7 EU countries) and several research and development companies.
 
Peter King said:
Except that Japanese car manufacturers make cars in Europe, almost 1.5 million.

Japanese cars are rather popular in Europe. I have had 2 myself, a toyota and a mitsubishi car. There are 14 Japanese car factories (in 7 EU countries) and several research and development companies.
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This article is from 1995, so things of course have changed

For Japan Auto Makers, It's Tougher in Europe


The Europeans have limited the sales of Japanese imports by allocating market share and growth rates. They have also forced the Japanese to accept other trade barriers as a price of entry into the world's second-largest auto market.
Indeed, the tough European trade stance has squeezed the same kind of concessions out of Japan that Tokyo is reluctant to grant the United States. Thus the Europeans have demanded -- and gotten -- larger quotas of European-made parts in Japanese cars built in Europe, and have forced Tokyo to accept what are in effect market quotas for its cars in Europe.
For years, many European auto markets were kept off limits to Japan thanks to an array of bilateral government agreements, some of them going back decades. Italy, for example, signed a mutual restraint agreement with Japan after World War II that enabled Japan to protect its market from a murderous flood of cheap tiny Fiats. In recent years, the accord served Italy to keep the Japanese at bay.
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http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/28/business/for-japan-auto-makers-it-s-tougher-in-europe.html
 
Red_Dave said:
Well no they don't . Leichtenstein doesn't allow freedom of movement, Switzerland makes trade deals with other countries independently, and Greenland is exempt from fishing quotas. I've seen no one in the cabinet say that they would not pay for anything if there was a deal, and given that we have been one of only three net contributors to the EU for most of its existence I think we should be allowed a little leeway.
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the fishing grounds the EU members want to fish in including the UK and N Ireland is Scotland's fishing grounds .... we have made it perfectly clear we wish to remain in the EU

the UK last time round got their opt outs by using Scotland's fishing grounds and with Indyref2 around the corner that will not happen ... Norway is a non EU member in name only ... they are basically a EU member without a vote


Westminster from day 1 of Brexit decided it's their way or the highway disagree with them then your either a problem or bullying Westminster ... they flatly ignored the wishes of the devolved governments by trying to bulldozer them ... then have the tamarity to say you can't have another Indyref ... sadly they are wrong both the SNP and Greens hold a mandate to hold another referendum as they campaigned on Scotland being taken out the EU would result in another Indyref and that indyref has been triggered by a section 30 that referendum will be held in late 2018 and early 2019 when we know what brexit entails via a consultative referendum like the brexit vote ... it wouldn't be wise to ignore the vote
 
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