• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle

Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

gunner said:
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted - Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted - BBC News


Another day, another predominantly Muslim grooming gang. At last the authorities are uncovering the true scale of the problem.
Click to expand...

I'll save the apologist crowd from having to chime in; it isn't happening, the point is they were caught so now we can just forget the whole thing, white Brits are the real threat.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

gunner said:
Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted - Operation Sanctuary: Newcastle child sex network convicted - BBC News


Another day, another predominantly Muslim grooming gang. At last the authorities are uncovering the true scale of the problem.
Click to expand...

Funny how you continue to only mention these gangs and incidents when Muslims are involved. So how is the investigation into the pedo gang in Westminster going?
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

PeteEU said:
Funny how you continue to only mention these gangs and incidents when Muslims are involved. So how is the investigation into the pedo gang in Westminster going?
Click to expand...

What's more funny (sad in fact) is your continual denial of such incidents and the now obvious ubiquitous nature of said patterns of behaviour. Like I've said on numerous occasions, if you want to concentrate on other cultural practices and behaviours be my guest.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

gunner said:
What's more funny (sad in fact) is your continual denial of such incidents and the now obvious ubiquitous nature of said patterns of behaviour. Like I've said on numerous occasions, if you want to concentrate on other cultural practices and behaviours be my guest.
Click to expand...

The only one in denial is you, by refusing to admit that white Christian Brits are also involved in organized child abuse. All you are doing by continuing to point out that "asian Muslims", is push a racist agenda against a whole community... this has absolutely nothing to do with race or religion, but with perverts and perverts come in all shapes, sizes, colours and religions.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

Oh how I laughed. :)

Over three months since I've bothered to post on DP (contributing factor: sheer boredom) yet I said to myself before logging in:

1) There'll be an Islamophobic thread about the Northumbria police inqury devoid of any real debate.
2) Liesatallcost with have given us his twopenn'orth.

I wasn't to be disappointed was I?

You can highlight the inherent sexism and misogyny of some muslim men quite well without being Islamophobic and without generalising: Liz Kershaw did it so well this morning on the Sky News paper review that I wish the clip was available, however I can't find it despite searching. Maybe some kind soul will put it on You Tube. She succinctly pointed out how we should all be alarmed by this sex grooming phenomena, and not be scared to condemn such sexist ideas about women held by some Pakistani and Bangladeshi men for fear of being seen as racist. And she managed to do that without being racist or targetting the entire male muslim community.

I wonder why posters like liesatallcosts can't raise their concerns in the same way as Liz Kershaw did, without displaying Islamophobia? Could that possibly be because they are inherently, erm, what's the word.....Islamophobic?
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

truthatallcost said:
I'll save the apologist crowd from having to chime in; it isn't happening, the point is they were caught so now we can just forget the whole thing, white Brits are the real threat.
Click to expand...

You could have saved us all a wasted moment by not posting this at all.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

PeteEU said:
Funny how you continue to only mention these gangs and incidents when Muslims are involved. So how is the investigation into the pedo gang in Westminster going?
Click to expand...

SNP party convener Willie Mcrae was murdered in the 1980s because he was going to publish his dossier on said Westminster/establishment/celebrity peado rings ... Jill Dando was also murdered because she was close to reporting it as well
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

Urethra Franklin said:
Oh how I laughed. :)

Over three months since I've bothered to post on DP (contributing factor: sheer boredom) yet I said to myself before logging in:

1) There'll be an Islamophobic thread about the Northumbria police inqury devoid of any real debate.
2) Liesatallcost with have given us his twopenn'orth.

I wasn't to be disappointed was I?

You can highlight the inherent sexism and misogyny of some muslim men quite well without being Islamophobic and without generalising: Liz Kershaw did it so well this morning on the Sky News paper review that I wish the clip was available, however I can't find it despite searching. Maybe some kind soul will put it on You Tube. She succinctly pointed out how we should all be alarmed by this sex grooming phenomena, and not be scared to condemn such sexist ideas about women held by some Pakistani and Bangladeshi men for fear of being seen as racist. And she managed to do that without being racist or targetting the entire male muslim community.

I wonder why posters like liesatallcosts can't raise their concerns in the same way as Liz Kershaw did, without displaying Islamophobia? Could that possibly be because they are inherently, erm, what's the word.....Islamophobic?
Click to expand...

Here's to hoping boredom strikes again soon, and we're all treated to another 3 month sabbatical from your posts. :mrgreen:
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

Urethra Franklin said:
Oh how I laughed. :)


sexist ideas about women held by some Pakistani and Bangladeshi men for fear of being seen as racist.
Click to expand...

If you'd read the story you'd have seen: "Those prosecuted were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle."

And if you had a firm grasp on anything besides a wine glass you'd know that the real racism is being inflicted upon the victims of these sex crimes:

"
Lord Macdonald, the former director of public prosecutions, has called the Newcastle grooming case a “profoundly racist crime”. If Lord Macdonald is correct, it begs a question: why hasn’t race yet featured in the sentencing of the culprits?

It has done so in other cases. In 2015, for example, Jamal Muhammed Raheem Ul Nasir was given a tougher sentence for child rape because his victims were Asian."

Let's please be honest about the role of race in child grooming

All the liberals and socialists currently crying over the rise of nationalism only have themselves to blame; THEY are the ones who decided to abandon their children in favor of others.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

truthatallcost said:
Here's to hoping boredom strikes again soon, and we're all treated to another 3 month sabbatical from your posts. :mrgreen:
Click to expand...

Go on, you missed me really.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

truthatallcost said:
If you'd read the story you'd have seen: "Those prosecuted were from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iraqi, Iranian and Turkish communities and mainly British-born, with most living in the West End of Newcastle."

And if you had a firm grasp on anything besides a wine glass you'd know that the real racism is being inflicted upon the victims of these sex crimes:

"
Lord Macdonald, the former director of public prosecutions, has called the Newcastle grooming case a “profoundly racist crime”. If Lord Macdonald is correct, it begs a question: why hasn’t race yet featured in the sentencing of the culprits?

It has done so in other cases. In 2015, for example, Jamal Muhammed Raheem Ul Nasir was given a tougher sentence for child rape because his victims were Asian."

Let's please be honest about the role of race in child grooming

All the liberals and socialists currently crying over the rise of nationalism only have themselves to blame; THEY are the ones who decided to abandon their children in favor of others.
Click to expand...

As I said in the post above, we can all express our concern over these horrendous crimes without falling in to the simplistic, uneducated and unintellectual trap of tarring entire communities with the same brush. I mentioned Liz Kershaw, and I listened with an open mind to her damning criticism of the way these vile men think precisely because she did it intelligently without dispalying any racism or islamophobia. The day you manage that is the day we might just take your concern for child welfare seriously. As it is, I think you simply use these cases as an excuse to vent your islamophobia.

And if you think all I can grasp is a wine glass, you haven't seen me on the whiskey, or with something more interesting in my hand.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

Urethra Franklin said:
As I said in the post above, we can all express our concern over these horrendous crimes without falling in to the simplistic, uneducated and unintellectual trap of tarring entire communities with the same brush. I mentioned Liz Kershaw, and I listened with an open mind to her damning criticism of the way these vile men think precisely because she did it intelligently without dispalying any racism or islamophobia. The day you manage that is the day we might just take your concern for child welfare seriously. As it is, I think you simply use these cases as an excuse to vent your islamophobia.
Click to expand...

Here's the problem I have with that; polite discourse is wonderful, but it isn't going to achieve anything besides making some people feel better for a time. You don't politely discuss the rape of your children, you DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Yes, the abuse of children hurts me greatly, and I am guilty of wanting revenge. You simply don't let these crimes go unpunished, or you're validating the Paki rapists claims that these children are just 'unwanted white trash'.

Where are the British men will right this injustice? As for France, I have almost no hope.

And if you think all I can grasp is a wine glass, you haven't seen me on the whiskey, or with something more interesting in my hand.
Click to expand...

:) good come back I'll admit.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

Grand Mal said:
You could have saved us all a wasted moment by not posting this at all.
Click to expand...
In fact an unlimited amount of moments could be saved for all of us by certain people developing permanently arthritic fingers.:mrgreen:
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

gunner said:
What's more funny (sad in fact) ............~
Click to expand...
.....is, not at all to deflect from the topic itself, how these kinds of reports attract the very cross-pond types of carrion that couldn't so far find own reason to spew their stuff in here.

When, that is, they can't make stuff up in their own initiative.
 
Re: I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Operation Sanctuary: Newcas

truthatallcost said:
Here's the problem I have with that; polite discourse is wonderful, but it isn't going to achieve anything besides making some people feel better for a time. You don't politely discuss the rape of your children, you DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Yes, the abuse of children hurts me greatly, and I am guilty of wanting revenge. You simply don't let these crimes go unpunished, or you're validating the Paki rapists claims that these children are just 'unwanted white trash'.

Where are the British men will right this injustice? As for France, I have almost no hope.



:) good come back I'll admit.
Click to expand...
I applaud the Northumbria police for having DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Arrests! Convictions! Hurrah!

As for France, I have consistantly supported muslim women against these patriarchal attitudes through feminist activity - not least supporting Ni Pute Ni Soumise, a feminist movement inspired by muslim women. Yes, they're not all under the burqa!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom