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Muslim Peace March Turnout Disappoints Germany

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A Muslim "peace march" against terrorism has been held in the German city of Cologne but has drawn fewer participants than organizers had hoped for.

The dpa news agency reported that a few hundred people gathered for the demonstration Saturday, with placards such as "Together against terror" and "Hatred makes the earth hell," and the crowd later grew to over 1,000.
The organizers had expected several thousand protesters.

The country's biggest Islamic association had refused to take part in the march. The Turkish-Islamic Union argued it would send the wrong signal by suggesting that international terrorism is mainly a Muslim problem. It also said Muslims observing the Ramadan fast couldn't be expected to march for hours in summer temperatures.

That stance drew criticism from the government, which welcomed the march.

Muslim 'peace march' held in Germany but turnout disappoints - ABC News
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A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
 
truthatallcost said:
A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
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Because the good citizen Muslim's will be taken out by the radicals.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Because the good citizen Muslim's will be taken out by the radicals.
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Interesting, ya know similar things have happened in the UK. Several mosque murders where more moderate Imams were murdered by radical Imams trying to take over.
 
The Turkish-Islamic Union argued it would send the wrong signal by suggesting that international terrorism is mainly a Muslim problem.
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IOW, PC overshadowed the good will gesture that was long overdue.
 
truthatallcost said:
A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
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I don't think I would go to a march either. Interesting question: When did foristi go to their last demonstration?
 
truthatallcost said:
Interesting, ya know similar things have happened in the UK. Several mosque murders where more moderate Imams were murdered by radical Imams trying to take over.
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That's a lie without links to names and dates.
 
Manc Skipper said:
That's a lie without links to names and dates.
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The chief executive of the Quiliam Foundation, Haras Rafiq, has claimed that civil war has spread onto the UK's streets.

He said this the killers deemed their victims "not being Muslim enough" and it has led to "ISIS-style" killings on British street.



He said: "The last three killings of Muslims to be picked up by the media have been carried out by those who have decided that their victims 'are not Muslim enough'."

Before you pooh pooh the source, Quiliam is a real Muslim group that Sadiq Khan endorses.

Islam divide leads to civil war on UK streets | UK | News | Express.co.uk
 
joG said:
I don't think I would go to a march either. Interesting question: When did foristi go to their last demonstration?
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I've no idea. Even the magic Google box couldn't ascertain.
 
truthatallcost said:
A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
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Disappointed Germany but delighted americans?
 
truthatallcost said:
A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
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You do realize that the march you cite here was not during Ramadan, nor was it at the height of summer.

One also need realize that the rejection to participate was in its largest extent generated by DITIB, the Turkic-Islamic union cited.

That is an Ankara-led (and financed) organization that can't even sneeze without Erdogan's instruction to do so. With Turkish-German relations being what they currently are, Germans (of Turkish roots and others) could currently call for celebrating Ramadan and Ankara would instruct to ignore the feast altogether.

Quite apart from DITIB being in the crosshairs of German security and counter espionage agencies on suspicion of having spied for Ankara (on alleged Gülen supporters in Germany). Various offices of theirs having been raided has that whole mafia (in my assessment) hopping with rage.

So it's not so much a question of lesser number of Muslims, it's a form of political warfare that has little to do with religion and everything to do with nationalism.
 
truthatallcost said:
The chief executive of the Quiliam Foundation, Haras Rafiq, has claimed that civil war has spread onto the UK's streets.

He said this the killers deemed their victims "not being Muslim enough" and it has led to "ISIS-style" killings on British street.



He said: "The last three killings of Muslims to be picked up by the media have been carried out by those who have decided that their victims 'are not Muslim enough'."

Before you pooh pooh the source, Quiliam is a real Muslim group that Sadiq Khan endorses.

Islam divide leads to civil war on UK streets | UK | News | Express.co.uk
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Yeah, but you spoke in the plural.

Doesn't mean that plural can't happen but so far there's just one case documented where a thug settled a personal dispute via hiring a mercenary to do a hit for him.
 
truthatallcost said:
Interesting, ya know similar things have happened in the UK. Several mosque murders where more moderate Imams were murdered by radical Imams trying to take over.
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They were? Have you got the multiple links to ALL these cases?
 
truthatallcost said:
The chief executive of the Quiliam Foundation, Haras Rafiq, has claimed that civil war has spread onto the UK's streets.

He said this the killers deemed their victims "not being Muslim enough" and it has led to "ISIS-style" killings on British street.



He said: "The last three killings of Muslims to be picked up by the media have been carried out by those who have decided that their victims 'are not Muslim enough'."

Before you pooh pooh the source, Quiliam is a real Muslim group that Sadiq Khan endorses.

Islam divide leads to civil war on UK streets | UK | News | Express.co.uk
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Quilliam is an independent think tank, actually. Not that I know what a 'real Muslim group ' would be.
 
truthatallcost said:
A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
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You haven't been to any peace rallies in the US, does that mean you're against peace and pro-terrorism?
 
truthatallcost said:
A similar peace march held in Cologne in 2004 drew 20,000 people, as well as the support of the Turkish-Islamic Union, which has ties to 900 mosques in Germany. What has changed? Terrorism seems to be on the rise in Germany, yet less Muslims were willing to take a stand for peace.
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Do Muslims really want peace?
 
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