Could be a hung parliament based on the exit polls
~ no doubt, May lost this election. Wonder if she will resign...
A lot of Labour voters promised swapping to Conservative so if they did, where are those Conservatives like me (I voted Lib Dem this time because of Remain) or did they stay away?
Anyhow - a long night ahead, Last election should teach us to be patient.
~ Oh and to answer your question.. those Labour voters promising to go Conservative...was before May and the Conservatives shot themselves in the foot with their many U-turns and the fact that Corbyn has shown "Prime Minister" like campaigning where as May has not.
No, possibly dementia tax has put off many elderly traditional Conservatives. I think those who were going to go Brexit have stayed Brexit.
Looks however like the SNP have lost quite a bit in Scotland.
Conservative down 17 Labour up 34 SNP down 22 and Lib Den up 6.
However, if these polls turn out to be wrong this is the last time pollsters ever get paid to do their job.
Certainly seems to me that the election was not as much about Brexit as May wanted it to be (make voters see it as being).No, possibly dementia tax has put off many elderly traditional Conservatives. I think those who were going to go Brexit have stayed Brexit.
Looks however like the SNP have lost quite a bit in Scotland.
Conservative down 17 Labour up 34 SNP down 22 and Lib Den up 6.
However, if these polls turn out to be wrong this is the last time pollsters ever get paid to do their job.
Certainly seems to me that the election was not as much about Brexit as May wanted it to be (make voters see it as being).
But yeah, early hours as yet, even where the UK exit polls are traditionally very close.
I think I've made this point before, but I'll make it again because it seems very relevant in the light of what seems to be happening: I think she decided that a big majority was so assured that she'd give herself a freer hand in government by getting out of all those commitments that Cameron had saddled her with.
If she does indeed either lose her majority or have it reduced the pressure on her from inside her party may seriously undermine her leadership. She said she needed a big majority to ensure a strong negotiating position in the Brexit talks. She wouldn't get that. She'd be weaker, by her logic.
Despite the exit poll, I still think she's going to have an overall majority. I think she'll have just about what she started with. It'll be enough for her to govern for 5 years, if her party let her. It will show her that the country doesn't want her to have a free hand however. If she fails to increase her majority significantly, and we'll all discuss the meaning of 'significantly', her wager on a landslide will have failed spectacularly.
I think either way Labour need to rally around Corbyn
Yes, providing she gets whatever majority, the fact that her current term (had it run its course without election) would postpone the next "test", may well be spun into an achievement.I think I've made this point before, but I'll make it again because it seems very relevant in the light of what seems to be happening: I think she decided that a big majority was so assured that she'd give herself a freer hand in government by getting out of all those commitments that Cameron had saddled her with.
If she does indeed either lose her majority or have it reduced the pressure on her from inside her party may seriously undermine her leadership. She said she needed a big majority to ensure a strong negotiating position in the Brexit talks. She wouldn't get that. She'd be weaker, by her logic.
Despite the exit poll, I still think she's going to have an overall majority. I think she'll have just about what she started with. It'll be enough for her to govern for 5 years, if her party let her. It will show her that the country doesn't want her to have a free hand however. If she fails to increase her majority significantly, and we'll all discuss the meaning of 'significantly', her wager on a landslide will have failed spectacularly.
brings to mind the old joke of "it hurts only when I larf."The "leave" effect is affecting the North (in favour of Tories) as the dementia tax affects the South in favour of Labour the young are voting Labour while the old vote Con. Ukip seem to be shedding votes 2-1 to Tory or Labour, which is better than expected. Either way, May is screwed. She gambled and lost there will be no blank cheque for brexit, and the knives will be out in her party. Boris Johnson is already 10-1 in the betting for next Tory leader!
brings to mind the old joke of "it hurts only when I larf."
"So don't larf."
I'm trying not to, Doc, but it ain't easy.:mrgreen:
Really? Are you sure, Sweden?A comfortable Tory win.
A Marxist-Leninist government wasn't on offer from anyone, but a minority or coalition of the Left looks at least possible at 3.20am CET.There will not be Marxist-Leninist government in the UK tomorrow and Higgins will have to put his Stasi enrolement application back in he draw.
The Lib Dems will lose some of their present 9 seats and could end up with none at all - oh joy , joy unconfined!
current LibDem leader Tim Farron in recount knife-edge.
God, I hope so, but that's not my funny feeling.~ However, I have a funny feeling in my bones there may be a hung parliament or something near to.
Wish I'd put some money down at a betting shop.