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French Soldier Planned Bloody Attack on Macron's Airbase

Yes, I bet Le Pen would be very good at bringing back the bad old days of Vichy France, "eradicating" a bunch of innocent people while the real bad actors slip under the radar just fine.

Macron is a renouncement of the idea that "we must do something radical, this is something radical, let's do this" ideal which is so popular among some people.

And Macron was richly rewarded for his tolerant stance, by a Muslim terrorist who was planning on attacking the airbase where Macron's plane is located.

He'll be lucky to survive his term in office, the way things are going.
 
LOL! No, you're mistakening that for my laughing at your nonsense. What you're saying is bunk.

One more opinion with 0 to back it up. What's new?
 
Oh quit your dishonest spinning, willya? Nothing in what was written excuses anything . Nor does anybody, as you implied. That wasn't said either.

You have to be aware, I'd hope, that people like Moot do exist in Europe and the US. These people always blame the victims of an attack, even though they themselves (the victim) had nothing whatever to do with colonization, wars in the ME etc. Then these same people, like Moot, turn around and tell everyone to not judge all Muslims by what a few terrorists have done.

They are basically self-loathing against the country they're from.


Then how come that France's number of deaths to Islamic terrorism isn't higher? Seeing that the US has had 123 deaths of same cause since (and obviously not counting) 9/11 and France has had 246? That's "only" (note punctuation) double. Why not 7.5 times that?

Maybe because France has its military guarding the streets, and this show of force has actually worked to disuade attackers?
Idk, nothing is ever perfect, especially when it comes to predicting the actions or results of something as chaotic as terrorism.


And why doesn't Germany, with more than half the Muslims that France has, have at least half of the French casualties (in fact it has under 30).

Good question, I think that Islamic terrorism is on the rise in Germany, but still several years away from being as big of a threat as it is in France.

We know that disaffected people from Muslim backgrounds are most likely to become radicalized and attempt acts of terror. As the refugees from 2014-2016 settle in, we should see overall crime, including terrorism, spike in the near future in Germany. That is of course, if the German police decides not to attempt another cover up, like they've done in the past.

I dunno about Turks in the Netherlands but in Germany they (Turkish Kurds included) dominate the Islamist scene. Certainly since 2006 before which it used to be Iraqi Kurds and, of course, Palestinians.No dispute on any of that.I wouldn't put it down to colonialism either, certainly not exclusively. Nevertheless the special history of France and the Maghreb has already found address and quite pertinently so. As has post colonial policy and what it has brought things to in France. Yeah, and no fascists running the cops either (far as I know). This ain't about Korea, try to stay focussed, eh?

My phone decided to turn all this ^ into one one big paragraph. Told you this phone was cursed. :lol:
 
It's completely backed up by this thing we call 'reality'.

It's nothing you'd understand.

Vague, just another excuse of yours to make a derogatory crack. It is what you do.
 
And Macron was richly rewarded for his tolerant stance, by a Muslim terrorist who was planning on attacking the airbase where Macron's plane is located.

He'll be lucky to survive his term in office, the way things are going.

Yes, terrorists conduct terrorist attacks---or try to, anyway. It's what makes them terrorists. But the attack was stopped. And, unlike Le Pen's Vichy wannabes, Macron isn't feeding ISIS propaganda.
 
Vague, just another excuse of yours to make a derogatory crack. It is what you do.

Newp. I was accused of crying 'racism', when I clearly didn't do so.

You should really look into reality. It's a fascinating place.
 
Yes, terrorists conduct terrorist attacks---or try to, anyway. It's what makes them terrorists. But the attack was stopped. And, unlike Le Pen's Vichy wannabes, Macron isn't feeding ISIS propaganda.

My preference isn't to tip toe around Isis, in hopes that they love me. Maybe that's your bag, idk. My preference is to eradicate Isis so that the ME and the West are rid of them.

Emmanuel Macron:

“This imponderable threat, this threat, will be a fact of daily life in the coming years.”

— Mr. Macron, after a gunman tied to the Islamic State killed a police officer on the Champs-Élysées in April.


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-marine-le-pen-quotes.html

Marine Le Pen talked about removing the threat of radical Islam from France. Macron talks of living with terrorism as an unavoidable part of daily life in France .

France has made it's choice. Au revoir France!
 
You have to be aware, I'd hope, that people like Moot do exist in Europe and the US. These people always blame the victims of an attack, even though they themselves (the victim) had nothing whatever to do with colonization, wars in the ME etc. Then these same people, like Moot, turn around and tell everyone to not judge all Muslims by what a few terrorists have done.

They are basically self-loathing against the country they're from.
I still see nothing in the exchange we're referring to here that would support your assessment, especially when it comes to the last sentence (bolded by me).
Maybe because France has its military guarding the streets, and this show of force has actually worked to disuade attackers?
Idk, nothing is ever perfect, especially when it comes to predicting the actions or results of something as chaotic as terrorism.

Good question, I think that Islamic terrorism is on the rise in Germany, but still several years away from being as big of a threat as it is in France.
The questions I brought up weren't posed in earnest, I was merely demonstrating the pitfalls of attempting false equivalences (as you did) by making some of my own. :2razz:
We know that disaffected people from Muslim backgrounds are most likely to become radicalized and attempt acts of terror. As the refugees from 2014-2016 settle in, we should see overall crime, including terrorism, spike in the near future in Germany. That is of course, if the German police decides not to attempt another cover up, like they've done in the past.
Okay, we can all speculate til the proverbial cows come home, so why not you as well?
My phone decided to turn all this ^ into one one big paragraph. Told you this phone was cursed. :lol:
Didn't I tell you not to buy SIM cards on the dark net that are labelled "Raqqa"?:mrgreen:
 
I still see nothing in the exchange we're referring to here that would support your assessment, especially when it comes to the last sentence (bolded by me).

This same poster has told me that white, Christian males are most likely to commit serious crimes, yet I'm fairly sure that she is a white, female from a Christian background. There's a pattern of prejudice there that I've heard other white liberals repeat online and in person.

The questions I brought up weren't posed in earnest, I was merely demonstrating the pitfalls of attempting false equivalences (as you did) by making some of my own. :2razz:

Get serious here Chagos. The tapas bar's happy hour isn't in swing for another 3 hours.

Okay, we can all speculate til the proverbial cows come home, so why not you as well?

Precisely, especially considering my impeccable track record of accuracy as it concerns these issues.

Didn't I tell you not to buy SIM cards on the dark net that are labelled "Raqqa"?:mrgreen:

:lamo But Ahmed insured me that Apple changed the name of the iPhone to the IS-Phone.
 
I hope that one day, some day, reality doesn't frighten you so much.

It WILL get better. Trust me.

All this talk about reality, and you can never debate using any facts culled from reality. You just keep repeating the same meaningless insults.
 
Your reality is never reality. It's always propaganda being spewed.

That doesn't come remotely close to the million plus murdered by the US/UK/... in the illegal invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, ... .

It's not at all too much to think that those people angry at France see them as supporters of US terrorism.

A million plus you say?

Murdered?

Citation for that?
 
What's your point? Spit it out. Do you consider it a success when a terrorist is neutralized after murdering a police officer? I don't.
You don't consider the terrorist being shot a success?

Uh-okay.
 
You don't consider the terrorist being shot a success?

Uh-okay.

No, not when he was on law enforcement's radar for many months, and no action could be taken to prevent him from taking a police officer's life.

Did you consider it a success when Anis Amri was killed? German officials tried to deport him for 7 months prior to his attack, and were hamstrung by their own inept bureaucracy. As a result, 12 people died.
 
No, not when he was on law enforcement's radar for many months, and no action could be taken to prevent him from taking a police officer's life.

Did you consider it a success when Anis Amri was killed? German officials tried to deport him for 7 months prior to his attack, and were hamstrung by their own inept bureaucracy. As a result, 12 people died.
I may return to this later.

There are times when I tire of nonsensical exchanges like this one and right now is one of those times.
 
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