'Flawed' anti-terror security is exposed in Eiffel Tower[W:53]

truthatallcost · May 11, 2017

Chagos said:
..............and the werewolves,..........and the zombies.

Not so sure about the mental cases, that depends mostly on whether they summon up enough guts to travel, I guess.
Exactly and so far it has.

Typical modern day selfishness, taken to the extreme of not really caring about violence against your fellow Europeans.

Tell ya what, the next time people are blown to bits at an airport, or gunned down by AK-47's, please save us the generic 'RIP, condolence, sorry Charlie' blather. It's blatantly disingenuous coming from you.

post #43 (and all the others).

Are we playing hide and go seek again? It's a pattern with your posts, where you make claims, and then offer up some vague, lazy reply when someone asks you to elaborate.

Yeah, we don't always get what we want. Were that not so you'd have carpal tunnel syndrome by now.:2razz:

No carpal tunnel yet, thankfully. Do you have a permanent palm print in your forehead from being wrong so often? :lamo

post #43 (and all the others).google doesn't always provide the answers one seeks.

True enough. They couldn't help with this inquiry either; how to deal with narcissistic forum posters. :lol:

Chagos · May 11, 2017

No need to help this go down any further than it has.

Helix · May 11, 2017

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Cut out the insults, and discuss the topic and the topic only. Those who can't do that will be kicked out of the thread at the very least. Posts made before this in thread warning may still be subject to moderation.

Infinite Chaos · May 12, 2017

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Which accomplishments of the post WW2 French military have you putting faith in them?
Their loss to Vietnam in the Indochina War? 75k French soldiers died during that.
The war with Algeria, where 25k French soldiers died, and France capitulated anyway?
France's involvement in removing Gaddafi, which resulted in an extremist Islamist uprising? Lol, well done there. Libya is now a place where Muslims from even Syria are terrified to pass through.[/QUOTE]

All Western nations that had colonies lost them. France wasn't alone in that. Imperialism couldn't continue anyway without serious atrocities by the colonial power. Besides, you're leaving out French victories in the last 100 years too.

truthatallcost said:
Countless, from the pompous prick that is Francois Hollande, to Corbyn and Milliband in the UK. Europe it's teeming with Chamberlain's imitators today.

Plus, several exist on DP, but I'll get spanked for revealing who they are. :lol: (looking at you Diego Garcia).

No, you're just going to ad hom against another poster.

Hollande is a country leader so what wars has he lost? Corbyn and Milliband are opposition leaders, what country have they led to defeat?

truthatallcost · May 12, 2017

Infinite Chaos said:
All Western nations that had colonies lost them. France wasn't alone in that. Imperialism couldn't continue anyway without serious atrocities by the colonial power. Besides, you're leaving out French victories in the last 100 years too.

Which accomplishments of the post WW2 French military have you putting faith in them?

Hollande is a country leader so what wars has he lost? Corbyn and Milliband are opposition leaders, what country have they led to defeat?

That's not why I compared any of them to Neville Chamberlain. They are Chamberlain-types because much like the PM did with the Nazis, these men are doing with the rise of radical Islam; appeasement, cowardice, and crossing their fingers to hope that the bombs don't reach their special privileged residence.

Infinite Chaos · May 12, 2017

truthatallcost said:
Which accomplishments of the post WW2 French military have you putting faith in them?

Battle of Maysalun

Battle of Koufra

Operation Turquoise

Mission Unicorn

Operation Baliste

Operation Serval

To name a few. :2wave:

truthatallcost said:
~ That's not why I compared any of them to Neville Chamberlain. They are Chamberlain-types because much like the PM did with the Nazis, these men are doing with the rise of radical Islam; appeasement, cowardice, and crossing their fingers to hope that the bombs don't reach their special privileged residence.

So they're not really leaders then. End discussion, I can point out weak leaders of small or opposition groups in any country. They just don't make it to power like Chamberlain did.

truthatallcost · May 12, 2017

Infinite Chaos said:
Battle of Maysalun

Occured prior to WW2. Not what I was asking for, sorry.

Battle of Koufra

I asked for examples that occurred after WW2, IC, since you were trying to say that the French shouldn't be judged by what occurred then. Kufra was during WW2, and I think a total of 8 casualties occured on either side. Hardly a major battle.

Operation Turquoise

^ Where France was seriously accused of aiding and abetting genocide in Rwanda:doh oh boy

Mission Unicorn

Never heard of it. Here's what showed up on a Google search (too funny, this pops up whilst searching about France's military! Come on)

You havin a laugh IC?

Operation Baliste

Successful, yet an Israeli soldier somehow penetrated defense perimeter, causing the French to say 'lulz oops'. Any idea what the Israeli was up to? Now that I'd like to know.

Operation Serval

To name a few. :2wave:

Now please address the state of the police force in France. Are they prepared to protect the citizens (more important perhaps than the military, since that's the job of the police).

Did the Paris police protect at Bataclan?

During the riots earlier this year that raged out of control for almost 2 weeks?

What about the police officer who was murdered in his own home live on Facebook, his wife along with him, by an Islamist terrorist? These things don't inspire confidence in France's ability to maintain order.

Infinite Chaos · May 13, 2017

truthatallcost said:
Occured prior to WW2. Not what I was asking for, sorry.

My prior comment you replied to was 100 years...

truthatallcost said:
~ I asked for examples that occurred after WW2 ~ Hardly a major battle.

OK after WW2. Apart from the Indochina war and events at Dien Bien Phu - what other major battles has France been involved in?

Answer none. Well done, you set up very limited goalposts that you kept shifting to suit yourself.

truthatallcost · May 13, 2017

Infinite Chaos said:
My prior comment you replied to was 100 years...

OK after WW2. Apart from the Indochina war and events at Dien Bien Phu - what other major battles has France been involved in?

Answer none. Well done, you set up very limited goalposts that you kept shifting to suit yourself.

Anyway, I think that topic of debate is pretty well over. But I've read your signature several times now, and became curious about who Corrie McKeague is, and then read about his case. What do you think happened to him?

Infinite Chaos · May 13, 2017

truthatallcost said:
Anyway, I think that topic of debate is pretty well over. But I've read your signature several times now, and became curious about who Corrie McKeague is, and then read about his case. What do you think happened to him?

There had been a few attempted snatchings by South Asian / Arabic looking men in the Norfolk area so my first suspicion when the Corrie McKeague case came about was that he was a victim of one of the groups suspected to be trying to capture servicemen here in the UK.

Last check was whether his body had been dumped in a refuse truck and this may have been a simple attack on a late night reveller by another local - no sign of anything to do with the ME so far.

truthatallcost · May 13, 2017

Infinite Chaos said:
There had been a few attempted snatchings by South Asian / Arabic looking men in the Norfolk area so my first suspicion when the Corrie McKeague case came about was that he was a victim of one of the groups suspected to be trying to capture servicemen here in the UK.

Last check was whether his body had been dumped in a refuse truck and this may have been a simple attack on a late night reveller by another local - no sign of anything to do with the ME so far.

Wow, I had no idea there was a concentrated effort to kill servicemen in the UK. I thought the Lee Rigby case was just an isolated nutter about town with a cleaver.

Are there others besides McKeague, who are missing? Any perpetrators caught yet?
I hope his case was just a drunken fight gone wrong. The UK surely doesn't need another problem like this on it's hands.

Infinite Chaos · May 14, 2017

truthatallcost said:
Wow, I had no idea there was a concentrated effort to kill servicemen in the UK ~

It's the same as when the IRA were operating on mainland UK.