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I am American and know nothing about French politics. My own politics are far left on economics and moderate on social issues. On the PoliticalCompass.org test, I scored -8 on economic and -4 on social. I'm basically Bernie Sanders except that I'm against abortion and gay marriage for reasons that I have thought through. You might say I'm a Roosevelt-Kennedy liberal. (So I really have no home on the American spectrum today.)

I've been hearing about the French election and wanted to learn more, so I took the test on VoteCompass and scored exactly in the middle on both axes, not close to any candidate despite there being 9 available. My results are below.

Why would this be? Is liberal in the US just middle of the road in France? Or is there something wrong with me?


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You are a social conservative and economic leftist... would fit well in Frenches right wing party... and you are the complete opposite of me.
 
Ended up almost dead centre, I aligned the most with Hamon but I hope Macron wins the election.
 
Carjosse said:
Ended up almost dead centre, I aligned the most with Hamon but I hope Macron wins the election.
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I like Macron. I think his charisma, outsider status, and relative youth poses the best bet to beat that blundering fool known as Le Pen.

On the quiz, however, I got Hamon.
 
Phys251 said:
I like Macron. I think his charisma, outsider status, and relative youth poses the best bet to beat that blundering fool known as Le Pen.

On the quiz, however, I got Hamon.
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From current polls it looks like it will be Macron and Le Pen entering the second round where Macron is suppose to annihilate Le Pen.
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criticalrealist said:
I am American and know nothing about French politics. My own politics are far left on economics and moderate on social issues. On the PoliticalCompass.org test, I scored -8 on economic and -4 on social. I'm basically Bernie Sanders except that I'm against abortion and gay marriage for reasons that I have thought through. You might say I'm a Roosevelt-Kennedy liberal. (So I really have no home on the American spectrum today.)

I've been hearing about the French election and wanted to learn more, so I took the test on VoteCompass and scored exactly in the middle on both axes, not close to any candidate despite there being 9 available. My results are below.

Why would this be? Is liberal in the US just middle of the road in France? Or is there something wrong with me?


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Compared to the French and German parties ie politicians you would probably find it quite an exception to find one that socially or economically on the 'moderate' side of Sanders on many variables.
 
Phys251 said:
I like Macron. I think his charisma, outsider status, and relative youth poses the best bet to beat that blundering fool known as Le Pen.

On the quiz, however, I got Hamon.
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The sad thing is that both have a number of policies that are bad for the country. For the US le Pen would be definitely worse.
 
criticalrealist said:
I am American and know nothing about French politics. My own politics are far left on economics and moderate on social issues. On the PoliticalCompass.org test, I scored -8 on economic and -4 on social.

I've been hearing about the French election and wanted to learn more, so I took the test on VoteCompass and scored exactly in the middle on both axes, not close to any candidate despite there being 9 available. My results are below.

Why would this be? Is liberal in the US just middle of the road in France? Or is there something wrong with me?


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Interesting and highly conflicting results.

You agree with both Fillon and Hamon - and they are at opposite ends of the political spectrum (Fillon on the Right and Hamon on the Left).

You are equally divided between LePen and Melanchon - she is on the far, far Right and Melanchon is supported by the Communist Party of France.

I don't know how this particular ranking process works, but from the looks of it I'd forget it entirely. But, that depends also upon what the questions were and how they were posed.

It makes no sense whatsoever for someone who followed Bernie (a confirmed Social Democrat) and half agrees with LePen (who is anathema to the French Left).

Were I to vote in France (where I live), I'd likely vote for newcomer Macron (who was Economics Minister in this present Socialist government). He made a small fortune in Hi-Finance Banking but believes in the same Social Democrat principles as Bernie does.
 
Carjosse said:
From current polls it looks like it will be Macron and Le Pen entering the second round where Macron is suppose to annihilate Le Pen.
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LePen is, like her father before her, a protest vote. Like her father before her, and also the last election, she will get a relative high-score in this first round of elections, then do very badly on the second-round.

Which will allow her to remain the head of the party, and spew her nonsense for another five-years. Unless she is found by the EU Parliament guilty of "false full-paid jobs" (for which she has just lost her immunity from prosecution) and could be convicted and thrown out ...

PS: Thankfully, France has no Electoral College to screw-up the fundamental democratic process of a popular vote deciding a country's president!
 
Phys251 said:
I like Macron. I think his charisma, outsider status, and relative youth poses the best bet to beat that blundering fool known as Le Pen.

On the quiz, however, I got Hamon.
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You think she is a fool? Must be something to the lady then, I'll have to look further into her.
 
Melenchon's success shows that many French people are now looking for a radical solution. It seems that what they're seeking is not so much practical solutions for their problems as a strong ideology that promises a glorious future. How else to explain the fact that the latest polls show Le Pen and Melenchon together accounting for more than 40 percent of the vote?
Furthermore, the electorate at both ends of the political spectrum is the same. Frustrated former industrial workers who always used to vote Left, then switched to Right, and may now come back to the Left. Young voters enraged by the Paris political machine, who are simply looking for change. And the socially excluded, who approve any radical message that promises them a better life.
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Lost without a compass: French voters before the election | News | DW.COM | 17.04.2017

Yep, the global elite are failing widely, not just in America. Merkel should be very worried that she made a mistake in trying to stick around.
 
Carjosse said:
Well her main rivals in the German election are the other historical party, the Social Democrats which have gained massive popularity as of late. It is not really a case of anti-establishment in Germany.
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By German standards things are.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
By German standards things are.
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The Social Democrats are even in the governing coalition, they are part of the current establishment. It cannot be anti-establishment by very definition.
 
Carjosse said:
The Social Democrats are even in the governing coalition, they are part of the current establishment. It cannot be anti-establishment by very definition.
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This is not the thread for it but it appears that this election will be a litigation of the German elites vision for Europe, which is a huge slap in the face, and given the constraints the elites have placed on political conversations in the society I am not all that sure that we know what the German people think. The election results may well be shocking in Germany as they have been elsewhere.
 
PeteEU said:
Global elite? LOL the White House and Trump are about as elite and global as you can get. Every place "populism" has grown, it is done by the super rich corrupt and criminal.
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Those who support him, WE THE PEOPLE who put him in the POTUS chair, well we tend to have a different opinion.

As you should know.

And RESPECT.

:2usflag:
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Those who support him, WE THE PEOPLE who put him in the POTUS chair, well we tend to have a different opinion.

As you should know.

And RESPECT.

:2usflag:
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Ahh so you have no problems with the corruption, nepotism and secrecy? That he enriches himself on your taxpayer dollar? That he spends a huge amount of his time playing golf?

That his friends in the cabinet represent the 1%, aka the Elite and not people like you?

YOU THE PEOPLE.. are brainwashed and reality will hit you like a truck soon. That "YOU THE PEOPLE" call for respect, when clearly Trump and his regime have zero respect for anyone... is humorous
 
PeteEU said:
Ahh so you have no problems with the corruption, nepotism and secrecy? That he enriches himself on your taxpayer dollar? That he spends a huge amount of his time playing golf?

That his friends in the cabinet represent the 1%, aka the Elite and not people like you?

YOU THE PEOPLE.. are brainwashed and reality will hit you like a truck soon. That "YOU THE PEOPLE" call for respect, when clearly Trump and his regime have zero respect for anyone... is humorous
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Whether Trump is good or not will be hotly debated for years, HOWEVER, you must respect other people making the call different than you do.

You get to run your life only, you get to decide for you only.

I insist that you stay in your lane.

Civility demands it.

:cowboy:
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Whether Trump is good or not will be hotly debated for years, HOWEVER, you must respect other people making the call different than you do.
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Oh I would, if it was the majority of the people.. it was not.

You get to run your life only, you get to decide for you only.
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Actually I dont.. what Trump does effects the planet.

I insist that you stay in your lane.

Civility demands it.
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When Trump stops his ranting, corruption and criminal activity, then we can talk about civility.
 
PeteEU said:
Oh I would, if it was the majority of the people.. it was not.



Actually I dont.. what Trump does effects the planet.



When Trump stops his ranting, corruption and criminal activity, then we can talk about civility.
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This makes me sad, on many levels.
 
PeteEU said:
Trump makes us all sad..
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We know that it never should have come to this, this is proof positive that we have big problems, a point that many elite are willfully ignoring.
 
PeteEU said:
Global elite? LOL the White House and Trump are about as elite and global as you can get. Every place "populism" has grown, it is done by the super rich corrupt and criminal.
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Funny reading that this anti-Globalist, anti-elitist has surrounded himself with billionaires and others of the same cadre. The richest, most elite cabinet in US history?

Funnier still that many people are still drinking the Kool-Aid and talking about "Global Elites."
 
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