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[W:#7426]How will Brexit go?***W:46]***

How will Brexit go?

  • The EU will continue to grow but will change to address the feelings that drove Brexit.

    Votes: 13 11.4%

  • The EU will continue to grow but will not address the feelings that drove Brexit

    Votes: 16 14.0%

  • The EU will see more countries pulling out after we leave.

    Votes: 20 17.5%

  • The UK will break up as a consequence of Brexit.

    Votes: 26 22.8%

  • The UK will still hold after all is done and dusted.

    Votes: 20 17.5%

  • There’ll be a second Brexit related referendum. (Independence / Brexit etc)

    Votes: 22 19.3%

  • We’ll end up with soft Brexit and end up staying within EFTA.

    Votes: 18 15.8%

  • We'll have a Hard Brexit, a disaster ending with WTO rules.

    Votes: 29 25.4%

  • We'll have a Hard Brexit which will be a success, even under WTO rules

    Votes: 18 15.8%
  • Total voters
    114
Jack Hays said:
Is Boris Johnson Actually Winning?
Tom McTague, The Atlantic
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Why yes he is:

"U.K. and European Union negotiators are closing in on a draft Brexit deal amid optimism there could be a breakthrough before the end of Tuesday, two EU officials said.

They cautioned talks haven’t yet finished, and there could be problems hitting the midnight deadline. But there are clear signs that a legal text is close to being ready.

The aim would be to present the draft to national delegations on Wednesday morning, an EU diplomat said. The pound surged, climbing as much as 1.2% to $1.2756, the highest level in nearly four months."

EU, U.K. Negotiators Closing In on a Draft Deal: Brexit Update

Guess that the EU that puts things off to the last second is flinching now that they are up against a man determined to leave with or without a deal.
 
Drawdown said:
Why yes he is:

"U.K. and European Union negotiators are closing in on a draft Brexit deal amid optimism there could be a breakthrough before the end of Tuesday, two EU officials said.

They cautioned talks haven’t yet finished, and there could be problems hitting the midnight deadline. But there are clear signs that a legal text is close to being ready.

The aim would be to present the draft to national delegations on Wednesday morning, an EU diplomat said. The pound surged, climbing as much as 1.2% to $1.2756, the highest level in nearly four months."

EU, U.K. Negotiators Closing In on a Draft Deal: Brexit Update

Guess that the EU that puts things off to the last second is flinching now that they are up against a man determined to leave with or without a deal.
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I don't take sides.
 
Jack Hays said:
Is Boris Johnson Actually Winning?
Tom McTague, The Atlantic
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Today's leaked pictures of election leaflets suggest the Conservatives fear Brexit won't happen on the 31st. So, no... he's not winning.

Conservative campaign leaflets: Vote for rivals puts Brexit at risk - BBC News

Boris Johnson 'preparing to fight next election on assumption Brexit has not happened' | Daily Mail Online

Several commentators are reflecting that only the terminally stupid will fall for any more of Boris's lies.
 
Drawdown said:
~.................Guess that the EU that puts things off to the last second is flinching now that they are up against a man determined to leave with or without a deal.
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That sentence alone shows how worthy of dismissal your whole post is, seeing how the stupidity it displays deserves no other response than pointing that out.

To those less interested in what garbage this thread is trolled with, it may be reasonably assumed that the greater need to compromise was felt on the UK side. Nothing to do with "flinching" either, Johnson knows that he can't get his promised no-deal through.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
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Today's leaked pictures of election leaflets suggest the Conservatives fear Brexit won't happen on the 31st. So, no... he's not winning.

Conservative campaign leaflets: Vote for rivals puts Brexit at risk - BBC News

Boris Johnson 'preparing to fight next election on assumption Brexit has not happened' | Daily Mail Online

Several commentators are reflecting that only the terminally stupid will fall for any more of Boris's lies.
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As I told the other poster, I don't take sides.
 
Chagos said:
That sentence alone shows how worthy of dismissal your whole post is, seeing how the stupidity it displays deserves no other response than pointing that out.

To those less interested in what garbage this thread is trolled with, it may be reasonably assumed that the greater need to compromise was felt on the UK side. Nothing to do with "flinching" either, Johnson knows that he can't get his promised no-deal through.
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Could the EU simply toss the UK out, regardless of what will or won't pass in the UK Parliament?
 
Sign of the times in the Gare du Nord railway station in Paris.

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Mainland Europeans will lose the right to freedom of movement in the UK, while UK citizens will lose that right in 30 European nations. Post Brexit, should it ever happen.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Sign of the times in the Gare du Nord railway station in Paris.

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Mainland Europeans will lose the right to freedom of movement in the UK, while UK citizens will lose that right in 30 European nations. Post Brexit, should it ever happen.
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Guess you are going to have to wait and see what the deal struck is. Turns out those who said BoJo couldn't get a deal were wrong. Now it is going to be in Parliament's hands. If they kill it, then they get the blame for a no deal exit and the Conservatives will gain seats when the election comes. It also means BoJo will survive a no-confidence vote. Just getting a deal struck throws the political hot potato back at all those who have been dishing it since he took over.
 
Drawdown said:
Guess you are going to have to wait and see what the deal struck is. Turns out those who said BoJo couldn't get a deal were wrong. Now it is going to be in Parliament's hands. If they kill it, then they get the blame for a no deal exit and the Conservatives will gain seats when the election comes. It also means BoJo will survive a no-confidence vote. Just getting a deal struck throws the political hot potato back at all those who have been dishing it since he took over.
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So many assessments and one more ridiculous than the other.

One could call your offers balderdash at new heights, 'cept there's no more room for yours at the top.
 
Looks like the DUP is the last main stumbling block again and Boris does not want to stab them in the back.

That means most likely that NI stays in the customs and regulatorty Union and the border is in the Irish Sea,..... The very scenario that experts proposed 3 years ago....

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PeteEU said:
Looks like the DUP is the last main stumbling block again and Boris does not want to stab them in the back.

That means most likely that NI stays in the customs and regulatorty Union and the border is in the Irish Sea,..... The very scenario that experts proposed 3 years ago....

Sent from my Honor 8X
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That was Europe's first proposal, shouted down (No Surrender!) at the time by the DUP. This time around, having already been bribed by T May, they are asking Bozo how much he'll pay them to betray their "principles". We know what they are, now only the price remains to be negotiated.
 
PeteEU said:
Looks like the DUP is the last main stumbling block again and Boris does not want to stab them in the back.

That means most likely that NI stays in the customs and regulatorty Union and the border is in the Irish Sea,..... The very scenario that experts proposed 3 years ago....

Sent from my Honor 8X
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DUP reject current deal.

Funny how Theresa May going to the country in 2017 prevented her and now BoJo pushing the deal through against Protestant wishes.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
DUP reject current deal.

Funny how Theresa May going to the country in 2017 prevented her and now BoJo pushing the deal through against Protestant wishes.
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Well, seeing how he's now announced it as "done" (in hilarious cross-pond vocabulary), it'll be interesting to see the numbers in Westminster if the DUP withholds support.
 
Chagos said:
Well, seeing how he's now announced it as "done" (in hilarious cross-pond vocabulary), it'll be interesting to see the numbers in Westminster if the DUP withholds support.
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He is playing everyone as it wont pass and he will gets his billions in a hard Brexit. It is a poison pill.

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'Ulster Says No'

sounds familiar.

from The Guardian:

Mr Johnson said to President Juncker this morning he has faith in his ability to convince the majority he needs in the House of Commons. He said based on this agreement and the explanations he intends to give, he has confidence in his ability to win that vote.


lol
 
PeteEU said:
He is playing everyone as it wont pass and he will gets his billions in a hard Brexit. It is a poison pill.

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He isn't around the Benn Act though if this plunges on Saturday (as I expect it will).

Ground hog day 5.0
 
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