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[W:#7426]How will Brexit go?***W:46]***

How will Brexit go?


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He had a better day of it just now than Theresa did in her time, but then he's moved the party into a right wing corner that she would never have dreamed of doing. But despite his attempts to out-Farage the Brexit party finding benevolent approval among what is now left of the Tories, today's speech was just another one of his nothingburgers. Anyone looking for details ran into the same wall of obfuscation that one always has done with him.

Just one example being how he won't have ANY border checks on the Green Isle while taking back control over the UK's trade policy.
 
Lol.....

David Davis the former Brexit minister who famously turned up empty-handed to a negotiation meeting with the EU. He is a hardcore Brexiter, so if course he would say that the EU are bullying...it is a classic political ploy to distract from your own mismanagement.

NPR is just repeating Brexit propoganda and has no substance.

As for the Daily Express, they have been making **** up about the EU for decades.




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As you wish.
 
That the EU has consistently made the possibility of a deal impossible from Day 1 is not a virtue.
What? Where do you get this **** from? Daily Mail?

The EU has been clear and public on its objectives since day 1.

A deal has been possible since day 1 but the lack of unity and changing of the goal posts by the British has seriously compromised the process.

Let's do an example.

Spain and the UK took 2 years to negotiate the right to stay, medical and such things for thier citizens in each country. Spain has codified this in law and the UK has done nothing. So we are 29 days away from British citizens possibly losing all rights in Spain because Boris can't get his foot out of his ass and pass the required laws. Instead he says freedom of movement ends on 1st November, which is in direct violation of many of the few agreements the UK has made.....

Blaming the EU for anything in this mess is pathetic to say the least.

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posted this in the other thread but also repeating it here for the sake of update:

So, here's the proposal that the UK govt. sent to Brussels today:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/836029/PM_letter_to_Juncker.pdf
plus the explanatory notes

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/836030/Explanatory_Note.pdf

Haven't read it yet in detail, a preliminary glance however showing it to be worse than May's deal. What springs to the the eye at first glance is
The proposal set out in this note would see regulatory checks applying between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, whilst Northern Ireland and Ireland would be in separate customs territories with customs controls applied to trade in goods between them.
explanatory note above, "(1) Overarching measures", point 4.

So? Two borders for N. Ireland? (never mind the rhetoric of there going to be none, border is border, open, permeable or hard).
 
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The Brexit Company Inc. held a mass rally in Trafalgar Square today, to match the million Remain marchers earlier this year.

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The Brexit Company Inc. held a mass rally in Trafalgar Square today, to match the million Remain marchers earlier this year.

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If only marches mattered, huh?

Macron will decide what happens with Brexit. Merkel is fading away.
 
If only marches mattered, huh?

Macron will decide what happens with Brexit. Merkel is fading away.

Which planet do you inhabit? Merkel gave Johnson his head to play with this week. What will happen with Brexit is that there will be no deal as planned, then Johnson will be required to request an extension to the UK's "thinking time", despite his "Dead in a ditch" rhetoric..
 
Which planet do you inhabit? Merkel gave Johnson his head to play with this week. What will happen with Brexit is that there will be no deal as planned, then Johnson will be required to request an extension to the UK's "thinking time", despite his "Dead in a ditch" rhetoric..

Sure she did. In the mean time, Macron will decide what happens with Brexit. Germany doesn't want a deal never has. She hardly beheaded Johnson by maintaining her same position as always. Macron is the one who will make a deal happen or veto an extension. Either way, Merkel is a non-player at this point.
 
If only marches mattered, huh?

Macron will decide what happens with Brexit. Merkel is fading away.

Sure she did. In the mean time, Macron will decide what happens with Brexit. Germany doesn't want a deal never has. She hardly beheaded Johnson by maintaining her same position as always. Macron is the one who will make a deal happen or veto an extension. Either way, Merkel is a non-player at this point.
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Goes for UK, goes for EU, goes for Gibraltar and goes for Brexit. And we can extend the specifics to Germany and France.

Trying to hide that ignorance with your barrages of opinionated and otherwise inane blather serves only to make you the laughing stock.
 
BoJo and Varadkar seem to have been making some form of headway.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Irish counterpart Leo Varadkar agree they can "see a pathway to a possible deal" after talks, Downing Street says.The leaders spoke for over two hours, including a one-to-one discussion during a walk in the grounds of Thornton Manor, Cheshire.
Mr Varadkar said Thursday's "positive" meeting was "sufficient to allow negotiations to resume in Brussels".

Mind you - it's a "Downing Street says" comment which reminds me of the lies about whatever Merkel was supposed to have said to BoJo earlier this week. The Germans were rightly pissed off at Johnson then.
 
BoJo and Varadkar seem to have been making some form of headway.



Mind you - it's a "Downing Street says" comment which reminds me of the lies about whatever Merkel was supposed to have said to BoJo earlier this week. The Germans were rightly pissed off at Johnson then.
Thing here being that Varadkar said pretty much the same to reporters of The Irish Times, while Merkel wisely refrained from commenting at all last week.

Clearly adopting a stance I wish I could follow more as well, namely to dismiss liars and fools.:lol:

Beyond all of which, there appears to be be much to be done so as to close a still considerable gap.
 
Looks like Boris caved fully... About time.

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Looks like Boris caved fully... About time.

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I'll believe it when I see it.

And I believe any of it going thru Westminster when I see Corbyn not shooting it down in his frenzied desire to oust Boris.

Did I mention that I'm not much of a believer?:mrgreen:
 
I'll believe it when I see it.

And I believe any of it going thru Westminster when I see Corbyn not shooting it down in his frenzied desire to oust Boris.

Did I mention that I'm not much of a believer?:mrgreen:

Oh I agree, but considering he refused to rule it out in an interview.. then there might be something about it. Then again he is a known lying son of a bitch, so..
 
Oh I agree, but considering he refused to rule it out in an interview.. then there might be something about it. Then again he is a known lying son of a bitch, so..
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Looks like Boris caved fully... About time.

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Not really. Not even clear what is being pitched. It is possible for the rest of the UK to Brexit on the 31st and northern Ireland to remain in limbo to be decided in on-going discussions. Getting one foot out the door is as good as getting both feet out politically as it would be a massive defeat for the remainers and show how useless Labour has been to the process.
 
Not really. Not even clear what is being pitched. It is possible for the rest of the UK to Brexit on the 31st and northern Ireland to remain in limbo to be decided in on-going discussions. Getting one foot out the door is as good as getting both feet out politically as it would be a massive defeat for the remainers and show how useless Labour has been to the process.
There is no provision for the UK to Brexit on the 31st and, at the same time, leave N.Ireland on the back burner. Because N.Ireland is part of the UK.

As pointed out previously and repeatedly

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You don't need to constantly demonstrate that with every post, but please yourself.
 
All this up and down drama is so the lovely posh people who thought there was no way Brexit would happen can make their money back in being wrong. But But it was Russian propaganda, not our ignorance, that caused this to happen....

In the mean time, they will get the deal before the 31st or no-deal brexit will happen and the deal will be after the 31st, but it will essentially be the same deal.
 
With Germany on the edge of a recession facing a tariff war with the US, they will cave. It is just a matter of Macron at this point deciding who he wants to screw more--Germany or the UK.
All this up and down drama is so the lovely posh people who thought there was no way Brexit would happen can make their money back in being wrong. But But it was Russian propaganda, not our ignorance, that caused this to happen....

In the mean time, they will get the deal before the 31st or no-deal brexit will happen and the deal will be after the 31st, but it will essentially be the same deal.

Please tell me you write these posts for comedy effect and that you actually have a more considered argument which you just happen to not wish to demonstrate?
 
Please tell me you write these posts for comedy effect and that you actually have a more considered argument which you just happen to not wish to demonstrate?

Well IC, s/he does the same across multiple forums and various topics so it does not seem to be for the yuks.
 
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