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UK Liam Fox learning from Trump.....funny as ****

Peter King said:
What an idiot, the UK has plenty of history in the 20th century they should feel very ashamed of.
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Really? Which and for what reason?
 
joG said:
Really? Which and for what reason?
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Really? For the behavior of the British empire in many of it's colonies, that is for what reason. For example the Massacre of Amritsar, than there are the Boer concentration camps in which tens of thousands of Afrikaners died, partitioning of India, the Mau Mau uprising and then we are not forgetting the millions of Indian people who died from starvation during the reign of the British empire. Add to that closer to home Ireland and Northern Ireland and there is plenty for the British to be ashamed about in the 20th century.

Don't get me wrong, the Dutch government committed many atrocities in Indonesia but that is not the issue here. This is about an idiotic British politician lying his behind off on TV about not sending a tweet when he almost certainly did and about the content of that tweet which was equally inaccurate as his denial of sending that tweet.
 
Peter King said:
Really? For the behavior of the British empire in many of it's colonies, that is for what reason. For example the Massacre of Amritsar, than there are the Boer concentration camps in which tens of thousands of Afrikaners died, partitioning of India, the Mau Mau uprising and then we are not forgetting the millions of Indian people who died from starvation during the reign of the British empire. Add to that closer to home Ireland and Northern Ireland and there is plenty for the British to be ashamed about in the 20th century.

Don't get me wrong, the Dutch government committed many atrocities in Indonesia but that is not the issue here. This is about an idiotic British politician lying his behind off on TV about not sending a tweet when he almost certainly did and about the content of that tweet which was equally inaccurate as his denial of sending that tweet.
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I've read quite a bit on those two subjects but found them quite consistent to behavior of all cultures of the time. It doesn't seem to me very sensible to be ashamed of having done, what was considered normal and necessary at the time. We make that mistake a lot in history, but it just makes one misinterpret the times.
 
joG said:
~ It doesn't seem to me very sensible to be ashamed of having done ~
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Those actions have consequences, as you see many African countries turning politically and philosophically towards future dealings with the Chinese. There is a continued distrust of the west and while there remains no chance to repatriate any of the real wealth taken in colonial times, I see little chance of dealings between the West and Africa really improving.
 
Moderator's Warning:
I think we should stick to the topic of Liam Fox and his tweets. Debating post-colonial guilt is a topic for a different thread. If you want to debate that start your own.
 
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