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    2018 World Cup - not the sport thread.

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    Bloodbath or peaceful celebration of football?

    Some of this reminds me of some of the events in the 80's but these guys are training in ways that most western hooligans just won't recognise.
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    Re: 2018 World Cup - not the sport thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
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    Bloodbath or peaceful celebration of football?

    Some of this reminds me of some of the events in the 80's but these guys are training in ways that most western hooligans just won't recognise.
    They are, but most Western hooligans will NOT be there, thus many innocent fans will be attacked for little more than wearing an England shirt.
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    Putin won't allow any trouble. Probably be the safest world cup ever.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: 2018 World Cup - not the sport thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
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    Bloodbath or peaceful celebration of football?

    Some of this reminds me of some of the events in the 80's but these guys are training in ways that most western hooligans just won't recognise.
    Can't watch i-player down here so who's doing what?

    Let me guess: Spetsnaz wannabees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    They are -
    I agree innocent fans will be attacked, but I'm just not seeing or sensing the level of training our hooligans would have to commit to. It was semi-military training I watched last night.

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    Putin won't allow any trouble. Probably be the safest world cup ever.
    Didn't look too good last night, certainly the stadiums may be safe but you can't clamp down the whole country and prevent the fights that will happen in the outer parts of the city.

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    Can't watch i-player down here so who's doing what?

    Let me guess: Spetsnaz wannabees?
    Groups of wannabe hooligans organising group hand to hand combat training and then group fights out in the countryside in groups of up to 200. It's like a mad selection process whereby those found wanting don't go on and those that do well get local group tribal tattoos to then be up for selection for fighting against other town teams. Presumably ending in selection to teams that would then go into battle with foreign hooligans in 2018.
    No drink allowed, these guys will be stone cold sober, organised into teams and defending each other while meting out serious brutality on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Putin won't allow any trouble. Probably be the safest world cup ever.
    That's exactly what Putin will claim; and we'll see a completely different story on our screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    That's exactly what Putin will claim; and we'll see a completely different story on our screens.

    I think it will be similar to Beijing in 2008. Putin will ship out the homeless, arrest hooligan groups and ship out troublemakers. He simply wont allow anything bad to happen in what is a great propaganda moment.
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    Re: 2018 World Cup - not the sport thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I think it will be similar to Beijing in 2008. Putin will ship out the homeless, arrest hooligan groups and ship out troublemakers. He simply wont allow anything bad to happen in what is a great propaganda moment.
    I can't see it, sorry. Personally, I think he'll revel in nationalist thugs running controlled violence against other nations.
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    I''m not so sure Putin will be trying too hard to keep a lid on hostilities escalating. I can recall a comment Manc made in a thread relating to violence in Marseille when Russia played England in a Euro 2016 match that suggested Putin made a "joke" after the stadium charge, about being baffled how only 200 Russians frightened 2000 Englishmen, to rapturous applause.

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    Re: 2018 World Cup - not the sport thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    I can't see it, sorry. Personally, I think he'll revel in nationalist thugs running controlled violence against other nations.
    We'll see but I think Putins need for Russia to be respected on a world stage again will ensure the World Cup goes off without incident. It will be plastic and fake similar to South Africa and Brazil but it will be peaceful.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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