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Finland- Rape Up by 10.3% in 1 Year

No, what you're doing is trying to make 1.6 billion people into monsters instead of actually attacking the monsters. You're using radical islamic terrorism as a tool for you to persecute innocent people. It's disgusting and you should be ashamed.

There arent 1.6 billion people in Finland are there? You're straying wildly from the OP again.
 
Didn't Sarah Champion say that there are potentially 1 million victims of Muslim sex gangs in the UK? Or have they edited the part about 'Muslim sex gangs' out of her statement yet?

So, Sarah Champion, the left of centre MP for Rotheram, says it so it must be true?

The only thing that I could find was that she said 'similar gangs' she said nothing about what saying 'similar' means.

When even Breitbart questions a statement like this then you might want to check it out.
 
There arent 1.6 billion people in Finland are there? You're straying wildly from the OP again.

No, you are implying that Muslims are innately rapists, it just so happens that you used Finland this time. Your argument is getting increasingly desperate.
 
And so are young frustrated boys finding out that they like girls.

That you talk sense some of the time, then it is always inevitable that you stray into defending the actions of perpetrators, is very concerning. You can't help but stray into Moral relativism. It is not acceptable and never should be.
 
That you talk sense some of the time, then it is always inevitable that you stray into defending the actions of perpetrators, is very concerning. You can't help but stray into Moral relativism. It is not acceptable and never should be.

That is how you 'interpret' it because you want to focus on one single aspect of the issue like it is the only issue.

If you come to a subject looking for the answer you like, you will seek out only what confirms that answer.

The rest of us want balance not hysteria.
 
That you talk sense some of the time, then it is always inevitable that you stray into defending the actions of perpetrators, is very concerning. You can't help but stray into Moral relativism. It is not acceptable and never should be.

Where on earth am I defending the actions of the perpetrators? Just because you are a young male, frustrated and fancy girls, does not mean you should rape them....that is implied in my comments and always has been.
 
That is how you 'interpret' it because you want to focus on one single aspect of the issue like it is the only issue.

If you come to a subject looking for the answer you like, you will seek out only what confirms that answer.

The rest of us want balance not hysteria.

BS. I've seen of enough of Pete's posts to draw a conclusion based on his views. He once said, the children that were raped by Muslim gangs in Rotherham were, "allegedly children " . So don't try and project your bias onto me. Look up the subject of Moral Relativism and get back to me.
 
Where on earth am I defending the actions of the perpetrators? Just because you are a young male, frustrated and fancy girls, does not mean you should rape them....that is implied in my comments and always has been.

Who said they were all young?
 
BS. I've seen of enough of Pete's posts to draw a conclusion based on his views. He once said, the children that were raped by Muslim gangs in Rotherham were, "allegedly children " . So don't try and project your bias onto me. Look up the subject of Moral Relativism and get back to me.

Wait what? Where on earth did I ever say that children raped in Rotherham were "allegedly children"?
 
Didn't Sarah Champion say that there are potentially 1 million victims of Muslim sex gangs in the UK?

You'll find this quote please? I won't accept any rubbish spouted on your Breibart style websites - she has her own website which you can search for me please. You're making a claim, you back it up..

~ Or have they edited the part about 'Muslim sex gangs' out of her statement yet?

I can see where you're heading, if you can't find it, you're covered in making the claim her website has been manipulated or she has been tampered with by the establishment. This is the new alt-right / alt-facts world we live in.
 
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Didn't Sarah Champion say that there are potentially 1 million victims of Muslim sex gangs in the UK?
You'll find this quote please? I won't accept any rubbish spouted on your Breibart style websites - she has her own website which you can search for me please. You're making a claim, you back it up..
Me again. So sorry!
It seems many don't know how/or don't want to use g-o-o-g-l-e.

Child sex abuse gangs could have assaulted ONE MILLION youngsters in the UK - Mirror Online
Rotherham’s Labour MP Sarah Champion describes it as a “national disaster” and is demanding a taskforce to fight the “horror"
BY LUCY THORNTON - 5 FEB 2015 (With Video)

..."It feels like the Government is leaving Rotherham to die. It feels like we’re not on their doorstep so it doesn’t matter.” She welcomed experts coming into Rotherham to help them but said the Government should have stepped in after the Jay Report, six months ago. “We would have been able to move forward as a town much quicker,” she said.

“There are hundreds of thousands and I think there could be up to a Million victims of exploitation nationwide, including right now. Girls in the process of being groomed,” she said. “I have met people from all over the country. “If you just think we know at least four big cases each with a couple of thousand each in smallest towns. It’s extraordinary. I was talking to sixth formers on Monday and All of the girls there had either personal or direct experience of people trying to manipulate them through sexting. You have online grooming..."

Sarah II.
Pakistani grooming gangs in Every Village, Town & City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0O4tDPhNEw

"Tip of the iceberg" "Sarah is right"
Nazir Afzal: 'Asians and Pakistanis are disproportionately involved in street grooming'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MqrO6p2Woc
 
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Me again. So sorry!
It seems many don't know how/or don't want to use g-o-o-g-l-e.

Child sex abuse gangs could have assaulted ONE MILLION youngsters in the UK - Mirror Online
Rotherham’s Labour MP Sarah Champion describes it as a “national disaster” and is demanding a taskforce to fight the “horror"
BY LUCY THORNTON - 5 FEB 2015 (With Video)
..."It feels like the Government is leaving Rotherham to die. It feels like we’re not on their doorstep so it doesn’t matter.” She welcomed experts coming into Rotherham to help them but said the Government should have stepped in after the Jay Report, six months ago. “We would have been able to move forward as a town much quicker,” she said.

“There are hundreds of thousands and I think there could be up to a Million victims of exploitation nationwide, including right now. Girls in the process of being groomed,” she said. “I have met people from all over the country. “If you just think we know at least four big cases each with a couple of thousand each in smallest towns. It’s extraordinary. I was talking to sixth formers on Monday and All of the girls there had either personal or direct experience of people trying to manipulate them through sexting. You have online grooming..."

Sarah II.
Pakistani grooming gangs in Every Village, Town & City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0O4tDPhNEw

"Tip of the iceberg" "Sarah is right"
Nazir Afzal: 'Asians and Pakistanis are disproportionately involved in street grooming'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MqrO6p2Woc

Be as sorry as you like, she does not make the claim that 1,000,000 plus victims of sexual abuse are because of muslim grooming gangs. You can be sure if there was proof, everyone in the UK would have taken up arms to do something about it.

Having said that - the NSPCC estimates around 11 million victims from all sources of society.
 
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Be as sorry as you like, she does not make the claim that 1,000,000 plus victims of sexual abuse are because of muslim grooming gangs. You can be sure if there was proof, everyone in the UK would have taken up arms to do something about it.
She did say 1 million, and she said the 'Vast majority' seem to be of Pakistani Origin.
The (Pakistani Origin) National Prosecutor says it's Pakistani Origin "Disproportionately"....perhaps even that an understatement.
There Was FINALLY a subdued national outrage. It's Britain (Europe) after all, and they're more scared of being called "racist" than having their daughters Raped.
Witness the many leftist apologists/"Racist" name callers on this board.
EDIT 1: Tho some with daughters seemed to have changed sentiment over the years. Belated Welcome!


EDIT 2: I have substantiated truthatallcost's Claim.
It's Gameover despite gratuitous garbage immediately above and below.
Bye!

(unless, as usual, there's some other point of Fact that needs attending to)
 
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She did say 1 million

She said 1 million, but not because of grooming gangs.

and she said the 'Vast majority' seem to be of Pakistani Origin.

Grooming gangs? No disagreement there, they tend to be mirpuri and the same thing happens in Pakistan, Mirpuris tend to have this thing about abusing kids even in Pakistan.

The (Pakistani Origin) National Prosecutor says it's Pakistani Origin "Disproportionately"....perhaps even that an understatement

He, Ann Cryer and Jack Straw have been pretty outspoken about this in the past - to their credit.

~ Witness the many leftist apologists/"Racist" name callers on this board.

If you have an argument, present it. Don't play the victim card.
 
Be as sorry as you like, she does not make the claim that 1,000,000 plus victims of sexual abuse are because of muslim grooming gangs. You can be sure if there was proof, everyone in the UK would have taken up arms to do something about it.

Having said that - the NSPCC estimates around 11 million victims from all sources of society.

It makes me sad to say it but, I'm with Breitbart on this one, I wonder if Sarah Champion pulled a figure of 1 million nationwide out of her ass in order to take the spotlight off her constituency.

As far as I can see, that 11 million figure comes from Graham Wilmer of the Lantern project and also appears to be a figure that he has pulled out of his ass, it may also be based upon historic child abuse as well as recent cases, I can't find any sources for it.
 
It makes me sad to say it but, I'm with Breitbart on this one, I wonder if Sarah Champion pulled a figure of 1 million nationwide out of her ass in order to take the spotlight off her constituency.

Have to agree, I read Breitbart pulling her and her figures apart on this figure. This isn't Breibart though.

Rotherham's MP, Sarah Champion is a Desperate Chancer - Breitbart

As far as I can see, that 11 million figure comes from Graham Wilmer of the Lantern project and also appears to be a figure that he has pulled out of his ass, it may also be based upon historic child abuse as well as recent cases, I can't find any sources for it.

Whatever the figure is, it's too high and I'm broadening that statement out to all victims of all child abuse.

Anyone wishing clarification from her is free to contact her.

You could send me an email using the form below or to sarah.champion.mp@parliament.uk

Send a letter to me – Sarah Champion MP, House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA
 
She said 1 million, but not because of grooming gangs.



Grooming gangs? No disagreement there, they tend to be mirpuri and the same thing happens in Pakistan, Mirpuris tend to have this thing about abusing kids even in Pakistan.



He, Ann Cryer and Jack Straw have been pretty outspoken about this in the past - to their credit.



If you have an argument, present it. Don't play the victim card.

Tell that to the migrants.
 
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The Inquiry was given a list of 988 children known to children’s social care, or the Police. 51 were current cases and 937 historic. We read 66 case files in total. 4.4 We took a randomised sample of 19 current and 19 historic cases. In 95% of the files sampled, there was clear evidence that the child had been a victim of sexual exploitation. Only two children (5%) were at risk of being exploited rather than victims. From the random samples, we concluded that it was very probable that a high proportion of the 988 children were victims.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/blogs/thirdterm/1123-rotherham-abuse-victim-police-made-me-feel-like-problem.html

Some years ago, I posted a blog on this subject and the actual number of victims was 988, which is still a high figure as some of them are only classified as at-risk children who had not experienced sexual exploitation. Feminists are prone to exaggerate the claims of female victimhood and the 1 million figure is not accurate. In October 2016, Jeremy Corbyn appointed Sarah Champion to the role of Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities and she launched Dare2Care, a National Action Plan for Preventing Child Abuse and Violence in Teenage Relationships.
 
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I took a quick look into this. I'm fluent in Finland so it was a bit easier to do :)

Between the January-September period of 2016 in about 1 in 5 of the suspects were non-Finnish according to the police. That was an increase from the previous year, where the number was 1 in 10. And these were not just rapes, but also harassement cases. One researcher from University of Helsinki that had looked into the crimes perpetrated by immigrants noted that especially young male immigrants were both more likely to commit a crime and be a victim of one.
 
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