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    [W:89: 591]Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    A controversy has erupted this week in Sweden, after veteran police officer Peter Springare made a Facebook posted stated that minorities, primarily from Muslim countries, make up the majority of criminals being caught for crimes in Orebro, Sweden.

    " Springare is a senior investigator at the serious crimes division at the Örebro Police Department with 47 years under his belt. In the Saturday post he said what he was going to say would not be politically correct and that saying such things could harm an officer’s position or pay grade, but he was about to retire and didn’t care.

    “Here we go; this is what I’ve handled from Monday-Friday this week: rape, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, rape-assault and rape, extortion, blackmail, assault, violence against police, threats to police, drug crime, drugs, crime, felony, attempted murder, rape again, extortion again and ill-treatment,” he wrote.

    Countries representing all the crimes this week: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden. Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about their nationality and identity.”

    https://www.rt.com/news/376582-swede...migrant-crime/
    Before the usual suspects scoff at the source and strain a feeble muscle group, here is Officer Springare's actual Facebook post:
    https://m.facebook.com/peter.springa...08300682343230

    And again for the usual suspects,

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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    A controversy has erupted this week in Sweden, after veteran police officer Peter Springare made a Facebook posted stated that minorities, primarily from Muslim countries, make up the majority of criminals being caught for crimes in Orebro, Sweden.



    Before the usual suspects scoff at the source and strain a feeble muscle group, here is Officer Springare's actual Facebook post:
    https://m.facebook.com/peter.springa...08300682343230

    And again for the usual suspects,

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    We touched this in another Thread earlier this morning about reporting. Information should always be packaged in the correct and proper reference system. Reporting without including relevant information or without enough data to triangulate its significance is not good. It is bad, be it by politicians, bureaucrats or journalists.

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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    We touched this in another Thread earlier this morning about reporting. Information should always be packaged in the correct and proper reference system. Reporting without including relevant information or without enough data to triangulate its significance is not good. It is bad, be it by politicians, bureaucrats or journalists.
    Which isn't as scary as an entire system that silences journalists and government employees from keeping the citizenry informed about what's occurring in the country. Such a system exists in Sweden.

    RT merely translated the officer's Facebook post, which is still available to be seen by anyone interested. The post has received over 18,000 shares so far, as well as an outpouring of gratitude from citizens of Sweden.

    I'd like to hear from our Swedish posters for their thoughts, as they are likely much more aware of this story and the debate it has sparked in Sweden.

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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Which isn't as scary as an entire system that silences journalists and government employees from keeping the citizenry informed about what's occurring in the country. Such a system exists in Sweden.

    RT merely translated the officer's Facebook post, which is still available to be seen by anyone interested. The post has received over 18,000 shares so far, as well as an outpouring of gratitude from citizens of Sweden.

    I'd like to hear from our Swedish posters for their thoughts, as they are likely much more aware of this story and the debate it has sparked in Sweden.
    Well, I do not think I would quite trust Russian public media and would suspect that information is less harmonized by violent coercion in Sweden than in Russia. On the other hand, I do not know Sweden's methods of information distribution, but imagine it is probably like in Germany, where most information and opinion reaching the population for many topics is highly homogeneous and government steered. This does not mean that a journalist will normally go to jail or be shot for publishing something evil. Nor does it mean that information cannot be obtained on almost any topic quite legally in the internet. But the probability that some opinions will reach the voter is systemically and systematically skewed.

    Having said that political correctness is not necessarily a good societal instrument to replace politeness. It does too much damage and therein RT is quite right. The thing there is that RT should be more concerned with the much worse situation it Russia, which finances RT within the Gerasimov Doctrine's efforts. As a matter of fact, RT was one of the first instruments to come being under that doctrine.

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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Well, I do not think I would quite trust Russian public media and would suspect that information is less harmonized by violent coercion in Sweden than in Russia. On the other hand, I do not know Sweden's methods of information distribution, but imagine it is probably like in Germany, where most information and opinion reaching the population for many topics is highly homogeneous and government steered. This does not mean that a journalist will normally go to jail or be shot for publishing something evil. Nor does it mean that information cannot be obtained on almost any topic quite legally in the internet. But the probability that some opinions will reach the voter is systemically and systematically skewed.

    Having said that political correctness is not necessarily a good societal instrument to replace politeness. It does too much damage and therein RT is quite right. The thing there is that RT should be more concerned with the much worse situation it Russia, which finances RT within the Gerasimov Doctrine's efforts. As a matter of fact, RT was one of the first instruments to come being under that doctrine.
    Here we are, more accepted media have decided to cover the story at last. And as I predicted, Mr Springare is on the hot seat from clueless government dorks;

    A report has since been filed by police management accusing Springare of racial agitation (hets mot folkgrupp) and he is now subject to an internal investigation. He is still employed by the police while the investigation is ongoing.
    But the Swedish people appear to appreciate Springare's honesty:

    Springare's Facebook post has been shared over 18,000 times and led to more than 6,000 comments in response. Many of his subsequent posts have also received a high number of comments and shares.
    Swedish police officer causes controversy with Facebook post - The Local
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    Swedish media have covered the story, but very few English language websites are talking about it, and I'm not allowed to translate an article from another language on this site.

    I'm aware of who is behind RT, and I take what they say with a grain of salt. Is CNN or WaPo any less biased than RT? I don't think so.
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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    I'm aware of who is behind RT, and I take what they say with a grain of salt. Is CNN or WaPo any less biased than RT? I don't think so.
    Are either CNN or Washpo owned by the government? Were they founded expressly as propaganda organizations by that very same government? Do they get directions from the government? Can they report anything other than what the government tells them to?

    As far as CNN is concerned, it's the only US news station I get here (via Satellite) and if I ever mistakenly browse onto it, I zapp away as fast as I got there.

    Alone the style and intrusive shouting pee me off but, from the little I actually do get to hear, being objective is the least of its issues where it fails.

    RT is of course totally objective. Like Prawda was.
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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Thoughts?
    Yeah, FB is actually not where the news are unless you're into fakes. And the number of likes or shares make not for veracity.
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    Yeah, I don't have an account with FB.
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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    Yeah, FB is actually not where the news are unless you're into fakes. And the number of likes or shares make not for veracity.
    Yeah, I don't have an account with FB.
    "A report has since been filed by police management accusing Springare of racial agitation (hets mot folkgrupp) and he is now subject to an internal investigation. He is still employed by the police while the investigation is ongoing."
    Swedish police officer causes controversy with Facebook post - The Local

    He's an actual police investigator in Orebro, Sweden. Hardly a 'fake'.

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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    "A report has since been filed by police management accusing Springare of racial agitation (hets mot folkgrupp) and he is now subject to an internal investigation. He is still employed by the police while the investigation is ongoing."
    Swedish police officer causes controversy with Facebook post - The Local

    He's an actual police investigator in Orebro, Sweden. Hardly a 'fake'.
    I'll let you in on a little secret that may not be all that accessible in your neck of the woods.

    Professionals, in the true sense of the term, don't post their gripes on FB.
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    re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chagos View Post
    I'll let you in on a little secret that may not be all that accessible in your neck of the woods.

    Professionals, in the true sense of the term, don't post their gripes on FB.
    He's retiring soon, and this is his farewell to the corrupt Politically Correct bureaucracy that he was forced to serve. Good on him, he'll be well loved by the actual citizens of Sweden, and hated by the treacherous leaches in government.

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