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[W:89: 591]Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

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A controversy has erupted this week in Sweden, after veteran police officer Peter Springare made a Facebook posted stated that minorities, primarily from Muslim countries, make up the majority of criminals being caught for crimes in Orebro, Sweden.

" Springare is a senior investigator at the serious crimes division at the Örebro Police Department with 47 years under his belt. In the Saturday post he said what he was going to say would not be politically correct and that saying such things could harm an officer’s position or pay grade, but he was about to retire and didn’t care.

“Here we go; this is what I’ve handled from Monday-Friday this week: rape, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, rape-assault and rape, extortion, blackmail, assault, violence against police, threats to police, drug crime, drugs, crime, felony, attempted murder, rape again, extortion again and ill-treatment,” he wrote.

Countries representing all the crimes this week: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden. Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about their nationality and identity.”

https://www.rt.com/news/376582-sweden-cop-immigrant-crime/

Before the usual suspects scoff at the source and strain a feeble muscle group, here is Officer Springare's actual Facebook post:
https://m.facebook.com/peter.springare/posts/10208300682343230

And again for the usual suspects,

Thoughts?
Comments?
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

A controversy has erupted this week in Sweden, after veteran police officer Peter Springare made a Facebook posted stated that minorities, primarily from Muslim countries, make up the majority of criminals being caught for crimes in Orebro, Sweden.



Before the usual suspects scoff at the source and strain a feeble muscle group, here is Officer Springare's actual Facebook post:
https://m.facebook.com/peter.springare/posts/10208300682343230

And again for the usual suspects,

Thoughts?
Comments?

We touched this in another Thread earlier this morning about reporting. Information should always be packaged in the correct and proper reference system. Reporting without including relevant information or without enough data to triangulate its significance is not good. It is bad, be it by politicians, bureaucrats or journalists.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

We touched this in another Thread earlier this morning about reporting. Information should always be packaged in the correct and proper reference system. Reporting without including relevant information or without enough data to triangulate its significance is not good. It is bad, be it by politicians, bureaucrats or journalists.

Which isn't as scary as an entire system that silences journalists and government employees from keeping the citizenry informed about what's occurring in the country. Such a system exists in Sweden.

RT merely translated the officer's Facebook post, which is still available to be seen by anyone interested. The post has received over 18,000 shares so far, as well as an outpouring of gratitude from citizens of Sweden.

I'd like to hear from our Swedish posters for their thoughts, as they are likely much more aware of this story and the debate it has sparked in Sweden.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Which isn't as scary as an entire system that silences journalists and government employees from keeping the citizenry informed about what's occurring in the country. Such a system exists in Sweden.

RT merely translated the officer's Facebook post, which is still available to be seen by anyone interested. The post has received over 18,000 shares so far, as well as an outpouring of gratitude from citizens of Sweden.

I'd like to hear from our Swedish posters for their thoughts, as they are likely much more aware of this story and the debate it has sparked in Sweden.

Well, I do not think I would quite trust Russian public media and would suspect that information is less harmonized by violent coercion in Sweden than in Russia. On the other hand, I do not know Sweden's methods of information distribution, but imagine it is probably like in Germany, where most information and opinion reaching the population for many topics is highly homogeneous and government steered. This does not mean that a journalist will normally go to jail or be shot for publishing something evil. Nor does it mean that information cannot be obtained on almost any topic quite legally in the internet. But the probability that some opinions will reach the voter is systemically and systematically skewed.

Having said that political correctness is not necessarily a good societal instrument to replace politeness. It does too much damage and therein RT is quite right. The thing there is that RT should be more concerned with the much worse situation it Russia, which finances RT within the Gerasimov Doctrine's efforts. As a matter of fact, RT was one of the first instruments to come being under that doctrine.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Well, I do not think I would quite trust Russian public media and would suspect that information is less harmonized by violent coercion in Sweden than in Russia. On the other hand, I do not know Sweden's methods of information distribution, but imagine it is probably like in Germany, where most information and opinion reaching the population for many topics is highly homogeneous and government steered. This does not mean that a journalist will normally go to jail or be shot for publishing something evil. Nor does it mean that information cannot be obtained on almost any topic quite legally in the internet. But the probability that some opinions will reach the voter is systemically and systematically skewed.

Having said that political correctness is not necessarily a good societal instrument to replace politeness. It does too much damage and therein RT is quite right. The thing there is that RT should be more concerned with the much worse situation it Russia, which finances RT within the Gerasimov Doctrine's efforts. As a matter of fact, RT was one of the first instruments to come being under that doctrine.

Here we are, more accepted media have decided to cover the story at last. And as I predicted, Mr Springare is on the hot seat from clueless government dorks;

A report has since been filed by police management accusing Springare of racial agitation (hets mot folkgrupp) and he is now subject to an internal investigation. He is still employed by the police while the investigation is ongoing.

But the Swedish people appear to appreciate Springare's honesty:

Springare's Facebook post has been shared over 18,000 times and led to more than 6,000 comments in response. Many of his subsequent posts have also received a high number of comments and shares.
Swedish police officer causes controversy with Facebook post - The Local
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Swedish media have covered the story, but very few English language websites are talking about it, and I'm not allowed to translate an article from another language on this site.

I'm aware of who is behind RT, and I take what they say with a grain of salt. Is CNN or WaPo any less biased than RT? I don't think so.
 
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re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

I'm aware of who is behind RT, and I take what they say with a grain of salt. Is CNN or WaPo any less biased than RT? I don't think so.
Are either CNN or Washpo owned by the government? Were they founded expressly as propaganda organizations by that very same government? Do they get directions from the government? Can they report anything other than what the government tells them to?

As far as CNN is concerned, it's the only US news station I get here (via Satellite) and if I ever mistakenly browse onto it, I zapp away as fast as I got there.

Alone the style and intrusive shouting pee me off but, from the little I actually do get to hear, being objective is the least of its issues where it fails.

RT is of course totally objective. Like Prawda was.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Thoughts?
Yeah, FB is actually not where the news are unless you're into fakes. And the number of likes or shares make not for veracity.
Comments?
Yeah, I don't have an account with FB.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Yeah, FB is actually not where the news are unless you're into fakes. And the number of likes or shares make not for veracity.
Yeah, I don't have an account with FB.

"A report has since been filed by police management accusing Springare of racial agitation (hets mot folkgrupp) and he is now subject to an internal investigation. He is still employed by the police while the investigation is ongoing."
Swedish police officer causes controversy with Facebook post - The Local

He's an actual police investigator in Orebro, Sweden. Hardly a 'fake'.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

"A report has since been filed by police management accusing Springare of racial agitation (hets mot folkgrupp) and he is now subject to an internal investigation. He is still employed by the police while the investigation is ongoing."
Swedish police officer causes controversy with Facebook post - The Local

He's an actual police investigator in Orebro, Sweden. Hardly a 'fake'.
I'll let you in on a little secret that may not be all that accessible in your neck of the woods.

Professionals, in the true sense of the term, don't post their gripes on FB.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

I'll let you in on a little secret that may not be all that accessible in your neck of the woods.

Professionals, in the true sense of the term, don't post their gripes on FB.

He's retiring soon, and this is his farewell to the corrupt Politically Correct bureaucracy that he was forced to serve. Good on him, he'll be well loved by the actual citizens of Sweden, and hated by the treacherous leaches in government.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

He's retiring soon, and this is his farewell to the corrupt Politically Correct bureaucracy that he was forced to serve. Good on him, he'll be well loved by the actual citizens of Sweden, and hated by the treacherous leaches in government.

Leeches.

Apart from which there ain't much I can add to the topic that wouldn't be as presumptive and speculative as what you have so far contributed.

If others will excuse my use of the term "contributed" here.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Leeches.

Apart from which there ain't much I can add to the topic that wouldn't be as presumptive and speculative as what you have so far contributed.

If others will excuse my use of the term "contributed" here.

Officer Springare is now being investigated for possible criminal charges. Think of it, 40 years of service and he may now be sent to prison for merely stating what he's seen while on the job.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

see #11
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Leeches.

Apart from which there ain't much I can add to the topic that wouldn't be as presumptive and speculative as what you have so far contributed.

If others will excuse my use of the term "contributed" here.

There is no presumption. You have the word of an officer. There is no speculation. For years there has been story after story of how migrants are terrorizing Swedish citizens and their total disregard for Sweden's laws. The denial is approaching epic proportions.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Second Swedish Police Officer Blows the Whistle on Migrant Crime Cover-Up
"The public has to be told all the facts now"
Second Swedish Police Officer Blows the Whistle on Migrant Crime Cover-Up » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

The source might not matter this time. There is another cop backing the first one up. He has a name. He has something to say.

Tomas Åsenlöv, a police officer for Greater Gothenburg, exposed how police have been told to implement a “Code 291” procedure in order to cover-up information about crimes committed by migrants.

“The Swedish public has to be told all the facts now,” writes Åsenlöv, adding that Code 291 is used to hide “all information about the immigration-related crime,” including a ban on publicly releasing photos of migrant suspects.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

I'll let you in on a little secret that may not be all that accessible in your neck of the woods.

Professionals, in the true sense of the term, don't post their gripes on FB.

And I'll let you into an open secret: when it comes to Sweden you never have the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Sprinare's revelations surprise no one. What astonishes us Swedes is that a serving senior police officer dares tell the truth in public. We are profoundly grateful to him.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

And I'll let you into an open secret: when it comes to Sweden you never have the slightest idea what you are talking about.

Sprinare's revelations surprise no one. What astonishes us Swedes is that a serving senior police officer dares tell the truth in public. We are profoundly grateful to him.

I agree and FB is the way to get it out there before the government shuts him up. I think he knew this was coming, a quite unselfish and noble act.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Which isn't as scary as an entire system that silences journalists and government employees from keeping the citizenry informed about what's occurring in the country. Such a system exists in Sweden.

RT merely translated the officer's Facebook post, which is still available to be seen by anyone interested. The post has received over 18,000 shares so far, as well as an outpouring of gratitude from citizens of Sweden.

I'd like to hear from our Swedish posters for their thoughts, as they are likely much more aware of this story and the debate it has sparked in Sweden.

The sad thing is that the Swedish main stream media, perhaps the worst in what is sometimes called the 'free world', is a willing accomplice of the authorities in keeping 'inappropriate' information away from the public. Time after time we must turn to on line sources to find out what is happening. Even if the MSM reports that a crime has occurred there will be nothing in the description of the suspect other than something like 'the police are looking for a young man'. If they make an arrest there will NEVER be a picture or a name. Nor, except in rare and exceptional cases, will a name, still less a photo, be published even after conviction.

It is common knowledge among us that criminality among Near East and African migrants is sky high. The only surprise is that a serving police officer is brave enough to break the wall of secrecy.

In the USSR people had to rely on samizdat - hand copied news sheets - for info that would never appear in Pravda or Izvestia. We Swedes are more fortunate in having social media and a growing number of on line news sources.

Here is a page from one of them, Avpixlat - meaning Unpixilated, that is a clear uncensored picture.
Peter Springare anmäls för hets mot folkgrupp « Avpixlat
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Officer Springare is now being investigated for possible criminal charges. Think of it, 40 years of service and he may now be sent to prison for merely stating what he's seen while on the job.

Such is the wave of public support from Springare that I doubt he will end up in prison. But his pension must be at risk if, or more probably when, he is sacked.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Leeches.

Apart from which there ain't much I can add to the topic that wouldn't be as presumptive and speculative as what you have so far contributed.

If others will excuse my use of the term "contributed" here.

As you so rightly say "there ain't much i can add to the topic". You know nothing whatsoever about it. From the depths of your ignorance you can only bandy round words like 'presumptive' and 'speculative' in a pathetic attempt to deny reality.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

A controversy has erupted this week in Sweden, after veteran police officer Peter Springare made a Facebook posted stated that minorities, primarily from Muslim countries, make up the majority of criminals being caught for crimes in Orebro, Sweden.



Before the usual suspects scoff at the source and strain a feeble muscle group, here is Officer Springare's actual Facebook post:
https://m.facebook.com/peter.springare/posts/10208300682343230

And again for the usual suspects,

Thoughts?
Comments?

Yawn. It's Russia Today.

So basically Pravda but slightly more biased in its reporting.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

Yawn. It's Russia Today.

So basically Pravda but slightly more biased in its reporting.

It is also FB which more people are on than watch or read RT, I would bet. You heard the guy from Sweden on this forum, and it is a yawn? Yawns are a reflex. Kind of like your denial reflex.
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

It is also FB which more people are on than watch or read RT, I would bet. You heard the guy from Sweden on this forum, and it is a yawn? Yawns are a reflex. Kind of like your denial reflex.

So what? Large groups of people are even more idiotic collectively than individuals.

Unless the guy from Sweden on this forum runs Sweden's government, what he thinks is largely irrelevant.

Just like you and your reflexive love of terrorist attacks against innocent Americans. After all, "it's about time".
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

So what? Large groups of people are even more idiotic collectively than individuals.

Unless the guy from Sweden on this forum runs Sweden's government, what he thinks is largely irrelevant.

Just like you and your reflexive love of terrorist attacks against innocent Americans. After all, "it's about time".

I see if the government says submit, you submit. And I knew that would come up. Tell me what does that have to do with Sweden? And how long are you going to perpetuate a lie?
 
re: Swedish Police Officer: 'Muslim Countries Provide Most Criminals in Sweden' [W:89]

I see if the government says submit, you submit. And I knew that would come up. Tell me what does that have to do with Sweden? And how long you going to perpetuate a lie?

And yet more fantasizing from the peanut gallery. Yawn. We both know you aren't likely to join any of those militia dumbasses, so cut the posturing.

Let's see. What else would you have us believe your words meant? After all, you reacted to a failed terror attack on innocent Americans with the words "it's about time" and tried to justify it because "Islam only respects force". Throw in some crack about human nature( since apparently you think murdering innocent Americans is only natural) and that's a pretty damning track record.
 
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