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Sandokan said:

. It is true that “there is no single solution.” One of the main reason is the low integration of Muslims immigrants into Sweden society. Many of them are reluctant to assimilate into western culture, they prefer to fallow sharia law. Hopefully Swedes will find solutions to thess problems.

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I wish. Imo there is no possible solution in sight. We now have in Sweden a large and growing section of the population who hate the country and its native inhabitants. The government has just announced - ahead of September's elections - more money for more 'integration' programmes. Few believe that they will be any more successful than all those that have gone before.

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Sandokan said:

This is a positive development for the Swedish people. The September election will be very important for the future of the country. Hoping for the best for Sweden.

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Thank you. It is good to see the Swedish Democrats accurately described for once. They are indeed mildly social conservative and, one should add, fiscally slightly left of centre - welfarist as are all the other Swedish parties. There is no party in Sweden that could be described as conservative.

The tired old insults still half-heartedly thrown at SverigeDemokraterna - the Swedish Democrats - no longer work. Recognising the enormous harm done to Sweden by mass immigration is not a symptom of a move to some imaginary 'far right' but common knowledge. SD will have my vote, even though they are a touch too left for my taste.

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Sandokan said:

This is a positive development for the Swedish people. The September election will be very important for the future of the country. Hoping for the best for Sweden.

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Thank you. It is good to see the Swedish Democrats accurately described for once. They are indeed mildly social conservative and, one should add, fiscally slightly left of centre - welfarist as are all the other Swedish parties. There is no party in Sweden that could be described as conservative.

The tired old insults still half-heartedly thrown at SverigeDemokraterna - the Swedish Democrats - no longer work. Recognising the enormous harm done to Sweden by mass immigration is not a symptom of a move to some imaginary 'far right' but common knowledge. SD will have my vote, even though they are a touch too left for my taste.

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Sandokan said:

. It is true that “there is no single solution.” One of the main reason is the low integration of Muslims immigrants into Sweden society. Many of them are reluctant to assimilate into western culture, they prefer to fallow sharia law. Hopefully Swedes will find solutions to thess problems.

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'De-radicalisation' is not working in the UK and is not even even being seriousy attempted in Sweden.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12575/britain-deradicalization-programs.

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Sweden said:

Thank you. It is good to see the Swedish Democrats accurately described for once. They are indeed mildly social conservative and, one should add, fiscally slightly left of centre - welfarist as are all the other Swedish parties. There is no party in Sweden that could be described as conservative.

The tired old insults still half-heartedly thrown at SverigeDemokraterna - the Swedish Democrats - no longer work. Recognising the enormous harm done to Sweden by mass immigration is not a symptom of a move to some imaginary 'far right' but common knowledge. SD will have my vote, even though they are a touch too left for my taste.

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My pleasure. As a Swedish, your incisive political insight is greatly appreciated. Thank you for the input. It is very informative.

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Majority of Swedes want to ban Muslim prayer calls
Majority of Swedes want to ban Muslim prayer calls - Save My Sweden

According to a new survey released by SVT / Novus’s, 61 percent of Swedish people want to ban Muslim prayer calls. Even with this clear majority, only two parliamentary parties are willing to enforce such a ban.

By – Brünnhilde

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The ongoing issue of prayer calls was brought to the Government’s agenda in the spring after the negative public reaction to the mosque in Växjö applying and receiving permission to broadcast a prayer call every Friday.

Opponents believe it violates the principle of freedom of religion that grants people freedom from being forced to listen or to be exposed to religious messages.
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The Muslim prayer calls have been a wake-up call for the majority of the Swedish people. Seem to me that they are ready to make a change.

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A general shift to the right is apparent through out Europe as people become more aware of the problems associated with mass migration. People are not as easily fooled with the BS accusations of racism and xenophobia; however, social media is still heavily controlled in many of these countries including Sweden. I'm hopeful that people will see the real enemy: not the Left or the Right but the Globalists.

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Oceanborn said:

A general shift to the right is apparent through out Europe as people become more aware of the problems associated with mass migration. People are not as easily fooled with the BS accusations of racism and xenophobia; however, social media is still heavily controlled in many of these countries including Sweden. I'm hopeful that people will see the real enemy: not the Left or the Right but the Globalists.

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The latest arrival figures for refugees and migrants support your statement that “A general shift to the right is apparent through out Europe”, since the current figures are down 51% with respect to 2017 and 81% with respect to 2016. Reference: (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-free-travel-area-says-italian-prime-minister)

Migration to UK from EU falls to lowest level for four years
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...falls-to-lowest-level-for-four-years-says-ons

The number of people moving to the UK from EU countries has fallen to the lowest level for four years, according to official figures…
Net migration from 14 longer-term member states such as Germany, Italy, Spain and France has halved since the EU referendum....

Net migration from 14 longer-term member states such as Germany, Italy, Spain and France has halved since the EU referendum.

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Sweden said:

Thank you. It is good to see the Swedish Democrats accurately described for once. They are indeed mildly social conservative and, one should add, fiscally slightly left of centre - welfarist as are all the other Swedish parties. There is no party in Sweden that could be described as conservative.

The tired old insults still half-heartedly thrown at SverigeDemokraterna - the Swedish Democrats - no longer work. Recognising the enormous harm done to Sweden by mass immigration is not a symptom of a move to some imaginary 'far right' but common knowledge. SD will have my vote, even though they are a touch too left for my taste.

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Popular opinion in another thread dominated by those unacquainted with polling evidence is that anti immigrant parties are in decline across the EU as the refugee influx of 2015/16 fades.

This is absolute nonsense in relation to Germany, but when I looked a few months ago I noticed SD had indeed declined a little.

But looking again today it seems they have been rising in popularity to almost record highs.

What's behind this? Have they been spewing out more 'lies' about immigrants (as the deniers put it), or are actual events in multi cultural Sweden making people very unhappy?

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So when Putinist propaganda lies of Olgino-esque proportions are sufficiently revealed in other threads, the author jumps elsewhere onto a 3 weeks old post to continue his dishonesties.

That an opinion voiced over anti-immigrant parties being on the decline thruout Europe actually represents popular opinion in another thread is yet another blatant lie from same source, even where that one opinion indeed reflects current status in W. Europe..

As to Gemany's AfD (not specifically mentioned in that particular opinion) being either in decline or on the rise, elections will show either way with opinion polls never being a trustworthy measure. Nevertheless in line with the actual argument raised (conveniently suppressed here in the usual Olgino-eque manner), namely that a) AfD does best where there are the least immigrants and b) suffers from the decline in actual migrant numbers, one has four actual elections of 2017 to go by, all in Western German federal states and all after the decline of immigrant numbers. In all of which the party never got anywhere near 10 pct (actually between 6 and 7.4) and in direct contrast to results as high (in one case) as over 20 pct in Eastern Germany, all those "successes" achieved in 2016, well before the "stemming of the tide" showed.

That France's FN has suffered a massive blow is really no secret and neither is the fact that Wilders has tanked.

So taking one's lies elsewhere doesn't work on these forums as has been pointed out.

The question over Sweden's SD and its potential I'll leave to the poster originally addressed.

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Oh Chagos - spreading your intolerant bigotry to another thread.

Considering you refuse to engage in discussion directly with me (like a coward), you seem to have an unhealthy obsession.

You don't like the evidence of German opinion polls because they show what you don't want to see, so you dismiss them as unreliable. Well, those of us who are interested in opinion polls are entitled to discuss them.

PS - there is no time limit to posting in a thread, least of all when the last post was as long ago as ...... yesterday :roll:

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Cowards define themselves via cowardly behaviour.

And where this may not be a continuous and permanent trait (thus allowing for the outright accusation of somebody being a coward) it - as can be seen here and elsewhere - nevertheless manifests itself in running from lies they have spread, once their dishonest propaganda pieces meet rebuttal that is substantiated by facts. To replace whatever factual response to the rebuttals would actually constitute debate with straw manning and other forms of deflection.

As a consequence of which it being quite sufficient to address merely what they present for what it is, rendering any direct discussion unnecessary. Alone on the realization of how lacking in capacity for debate the so described are and, subsequently, how unworthy of being engaged in it.

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Chagos said:

Cowards define themselves via cowardly behaviour.

And where this may not be a continuous and permanent trait (thus allowing for the outright accusation of somebody being a coward) it - as can be seen here and elsewhere - nevertheless manifests itself in running from lies they have spread, once their dishonest propaganda pieces meet rebuttal that is substantiated by facts. To replace whatever factual response to the rebuttals would actually constitute debate with straw manning and other forms of deflection.

As a consequence of which it being quite sufficient to address merely what they present for what it is, rendering any direct discussion unnecessary. Alone on the realization of how lacking in capacity for debate the so described are and, subsequently, how unworthy of being engaged in it.

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:lol:

Deeply ironic from a man who eschews any discussion, resorting instead to cowardly accusations of 'lies' whenever his own unsubstantiated positions are exposed or challenged.


Your own extraordinary arrogance and dare I suggest, ego, shine through in this post .


Now, since you have contributed precisely nothing to this particular thread about Sweden, and clearly have no wish to given that opinion polls in Sweden too are not showing the triumph of mulit-culturalist love that you so dearly want, I suggest you either engage in constructive discussion of take your intolerant nonsense elsewhere.

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:roll::spin:

:failpail:

Ah, the beauty of emojis :thumbs:

But seeing how what was intended has already been demonstrated and seeing how I've already stated leaving the question with the poster originally addressed, I'll return to something less silly.

"Silly" as accusations levelled in the posters previous response being as dishonest as everything else.

By-bye

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Westphalian said:

Popular opinion in another thread dominated by those unacquainted with polling evidence is that anti immigrant parties are in decline across the EU as the refugee influx of 2015/16 fades.

This is absolute nonsense in relation to Germany, but when I looked a few months ago I noticed SD had indeed declined a little.

But looking again today it seems they have been rising in popularity to almost record highs.

What's behind this? Have they been spewing out more 'lies' about immigrants (as the deniers put it), or are actual events in multi cultural Sweden making people very unhappy?

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In the latest Yougov poll SD are now the largest party with about 30%.

Why? In part because the minority Red/Green government is deeply unpopular.. More generally because more people are tired of the spin and lies from the other parties, not just about immigration but about the EU (SD is the only Eurosceptic party), 'climate' and many other things. Personally I think that examples from the UK - brexit - Germany and Italy are having an effect. There is something of a 'time for a change atmosphere'.

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Sweden said:

In the latest Yougov poll SD are now the largest party with about 30%.

Why? In part because the minority Red/Green government is deeply unpopular.. More generally because more people are tired of the spin and lies from the other parties, not just about immigration but about the EU (SD is the only Eurosceptic party), 'climate' and many other things. Personally I think that examples from the UK - brexit - Germany and Italy are having an effect. There is something of a 'time for a change atmosphere'.

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Thanks Sweden


Interesting comments given that much of European MSM (including Russian I should add) paint Brexit as a disaster.

But I think the bigger point you make is the lack of honesty, the spin and the lies which are generally peddled by mainstream parties. People are no longer prepared to accept their lot and slide meekly back into acquiescence and deference. Perhaps this is, ironically, a product at least in part of the pan European mono-culture which Brussels has tried to promote for so long. All European elites tainted by the mis-deeds of the others?

The peculiar circumstances of Sweden, the unpopularity of the coalition, do you see that as continuing to the election?

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Westphalian said:

Thanks Sweden


Interesting comments given that much of European MSM (including Russian I should add) paint Brexit as a disaster.

But I think the bigger point you make is the lack of honesty, the spin and the lies which are generally peddled by mainstream parties. People are no longer prepared to accept their lot and slide meekly back into acquiescence and deference. Perhaps this is, ironically, a product at least in part of the pan European mono-culture which Brussels has tried to promote for so long. All European elites tainted by the mis-deeds of the others?

The peculiar circumstances of Sweden, the unpopularity of the coalition, do you see that as continuing to the election?

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Certainly, the slide to another lowest-vote-ever result for the Social Democrats will continue. The Greens may not clear the 4% bar. (In our PR system a party must get over 4% of the national vote to get any seat at all.)

There is mass discontent here with worsening health care, elder care and education. No money the state says. But there is always money to house 'refugees' or for yet another doomed-to- fail integration programme. All the dozens of earlier such schemes have failed, no least because most of their beneficiaries have not the slightest interest in integrating into Swedish society which they despise.

Many things rankle: e g we Swedes pay about 70% of the cost of dental work. A recent crown cost me over SKR 9500 . If I was an 'asylum seeker' , even one who's application had already been turned down - few if any are actually deported, I would have got unlimited work done for SKR 50 the grand sum of US$ 7.50. Yes, those who have been told to leave but who are still here illegally continue to get benefits, accommodation, health care and, if they have had the foresight to lie about their age, education.

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Sweden will remain Sweden but just in name
Sweden will remain Sweden but just in name - Save My Sweden

For some time now the Gefira Team has been keeping track of the demographic processes that are taking place in Europe, especially in its Western part.

By – Gefira.org

This time Gefira published a report on Sweden, a well-developed, typical Western state, member of the European Union. The report includes independent calculations, using dedicated demographic software Cerberus 2.0. The report is based on the input that is taken from the official bureaus of statistics.

The Gefira findings based on the official data provided by Statistics Sweden SCB reveal what follows:

1. the fertility rate of native white Swedes is much lower (1,6) than the country’s overall fertility rate (1.9);

2. the Swedish parental system fails to deliver more babies;

3. the number of children with an Islamic name is growing at a fast pace. Since 2010 it has increased by more than 30%, so that now around 8 to 10% of the newborns in Sweden have an Islamic name.

4. the native white Swedish population will be a minority within a maximum of 40 years. The same source shows that 22% of the newborns have a non-Western migration background.
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The statistics are very worrisome. Hopefully the Swedish people will elect members of a party that are pro Sweden, and it will addressed these problem. The new generation will appreciated it.

This fertility problem is not unique to Sweden, countries like Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Russia, etc., face the same problem. To keep the population growing the birth rate need to be at least 2.3 children per woman, and to keep a stable population 2.1 children per woman.

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Sandokan said:

The statistics are very worrisome. Hopefully the Swedish people will elect members of a party that are pro Sweden, and it will addressed these problem. The new generation will appreciated it.

This fertility problem is not unique to Sweden, countries like Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Russia, etc., face the same problem. To keep the population growing the birth rate need to be at least 2.3 children per woman, and to keep a stable population 2.1 children per woman.

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Or allow more young people to immigrate

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Red_Dave said:

Or allow more young people to immigrate

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God forbid, we wouldn't want what few blue-eyed and blond people that will be left, replaced by something that doesn't look like that at all.

:mrgreen:

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Red_Dave said:

Or allow more young people to immigrate

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Of course, your solution aggravate the problem. Migrants won’t solve Europe’s demographic problem. It can be solve by taken measures to increased fertility rates. Low birth rates have worried most European countries governments, but as far as I am aware of, with the exemption of Germany and Russia no others countries are taking measures to address the problem.

The German government has introduced a number of family policies to deal with the problem, and the fertility rate has moderately increased. The Russian government, your red buddy, has taken steps to boost birth rates, given women an allowance of $180 for 18 months after the birth of their first child. For families having their second or subsequent child, the government has extended the extension of its Maternity Capital programme for poor families, and they will be eligible for subsidies against their mortgage payments. The government hope these measures will increased birth rates.

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The Sweden Democrats DEVASTATE socialist vote in latest polls
The Sweden Democrats DEVASTATE socialist vote in latest polls - Save My Sweden

THE Sweden election could see the eurosceptic Sweden Democrats become kingmaker as polls show the party makes great gains against the governing Social Democrats.
By – Anders Anglesey
August 6, 2018

In the latest opinion poll, the nationalist party yet again built on its meteoric rise, placing ahead of the conservative Moderate Party making it look increasingly likely they will become country’s second largest party.

The Sweden Democrats has gained support in the polls as it focuses its campaign on refugees and migrants ahead of the September election.
It scored 22 percent in the latest poll – only two points behind the leftist Social Democrats and three percent ahead of the Moderates – as establishment parties continue to lose ground.
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According to the latest polls the left coalition of the Social Democrats Green Party and Left Party would obtain 39% of the vote, and the center-right coalition of the Moderate, Centre, Cristian Democrats and Liberal People parties would obtain 36% of the vote. If the Sweden Democrats, which had sided with the Moderate and Cristian Democrats in tougher immigration control, join forces with the center-right coalition, it would garner 58% of the vote that will aloud it chose a new Prime Minister and stablish a new course for the country. As Sweden has said in a previous post, “There is something of a ‘time for a change atmosphere’.”

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Sandokan said:

According to the latest polls the left coalition of the Social Democrats Green Party and Left Party would obtain 39% of the vote, and the center-right coalition of the Moderate, Centre, Cristian Democrats and Liberal People parties would obtain 36% of the vote. If the Sweden Democrats, which had sided with the Moderate and Cristian Democrats in tougher immigration control, join forces with the center-right coalition, it would garner 58% of the vote that will aloud it chose a new Prime Minister and stablish a new course for the country. As Sweden has said in a previous post, “There is something of a ‘time for a change atmosphere’.”

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We're seeing a Culture War afflicitng many western societies.


A globalist national elite, which largely despise its own citizens in favour of multi-culturalism, is opposed by the ordinary people who identify with their nation, want to keep their own identity, and have little in common with their so called 'rulers'.

Small wonder that parties like Sweden Democrats continue to go from strength to strength.

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truthatallcost said:

He's retiring soon, and this is his farewell to the corrupt Politically Correct bureaucracy that he was forced to serve. Good on him, he'll be well loved by the actual citizens of Sweden, and hated by the treacherous leaches in government.

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Ah, look a crock of that which enhances plant growth and it is indeed strong such that few can stand it.

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Westphalian said:

We're seeing a Culture War afflicitng many western societies.


A globalist national elite, which largely despise its own citizens in favour of multi-culturalism, is opposed by the ordinary people who identify with their nation, want to keep their own identity, and have little in common with their so called 'rulers'.

Small wonder that parties like Sweden Democrats continue to go from strength to strength.

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And this should be in the conspiracy section because that is what it is, conspiratorial BS.