Possible Terror Attack at Louvre, Soldier Opens Fire

A man has reportedly attempted to attack a French soldier near Paris' famed Le Louvre art gallery.

The soldier opened fire in self defence near the Carrousel du Louvre shopping centre at around 10am local time (9am GMT), RTL reported.

French newspaper L'Express reported that the suspect was carrying a knife. He is said to have been injured.


The Carrousel du Louvre has been evacuated amid a heavy police presence following the incident.

It came following a series of Isis inspired terror attacks in France, with the group calling on its followers to attack "infidels" and members of the security services.

The group killed 130 people in a series of shootings and bombings in November 2015, and its followers have killed shoppers at a Kosher supermarket, a police officer and his wife and a Catholic priest.
Le Louvre attack: French soldier 'opens fire' after attempted attack near Paris art gallery | The Independent

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This is still a breaking story. This shows why France has to have military soldiers stained on public streets now. I hope the soldier is well and makes a full recovery.

Thoughts?

Early reports are stating the motive may have been to detonate a bomb in the Louvre museum.

Two men were involved, one was carrying suspicious suitcases into the museum.

Business as usual.

Anyway a few hundreds of deaths a year is nothing in comparison to the islamization and to the local ethnic cleansings we will see on both sides in the future once we will be the new Lebanon. Millions of cadavers will float in the Seine.

Now some will once again blame our intelligence services for not having a crystal ball and not putting a cop behind every citizen. I am not one of those and I want privacy. The only solution would be to get rid of Muslims. No Muslims, no problems. France would be a lot better without them.

Auvergnat said:

Business as usual.

Anyway a few hundreds of deaths a year is nothing in comparison to the islamization and to the local ethnic cleansings we will see on both sides in the future once we will be the new Lebanon. Millions of cadavers will float in the Seine.

Now some will once again blame our intelligence services for not having a crystal ball and not putting a cop behind every citizen. I am not one of those and I want privacy. The only solution would be to get rid of Muslims. No Muslims, no problems. France would be a lot better without them.

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I believe that the US will intervene in case of civil war in France, especially with Trump as president. No situation needs to be permanent, we can reverse these injustices when the people refuse to tolerate madness any longer.

Auvergnat said:

Business as usual.

Anyway a few hundreds of deaths a year is nothing in comparison to the islamization and to the local ethnic cleansings we will see on both sides in the future once we will be the new Lebanon. Millions of cadavers will float in the Seine.

Now some will once again blame our intelligence services for not having a crystal ball and not putting a cop behind every citizen. I am not one of those and I want privacy. The only solution would be to get rid of Muslims. No Muslims, no problems. France would be a lot better without them.

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Enoch Powell was saying the same thing about the UK in 1968. It didn't happen. It won't happen.

"Powell spoke out against excessive immigration and against the multiculturalism which was becoming palpable in Britain by the end of the 60s. It was Powell’s assertion that this issue was being swept under the carpet by the Labour government of the day and that uncontrolled immigration would irrevocably change and damage the Britain he knew. However, Powell’s controversial address was branded racialist by the leaders of his own party. Powell was condemned to the political wilderness, never to return.

The ‘Rivers of Blood’ Speech
The words ‘Rivers of Blood’ still stir up images of Powell with many in Britain, but the phrase is itself a misquotation. Powell’s actual words were: “like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood.’” This was an allusion to Virgil’s Aeneid in which the Sibyl prophesises Bella, horrida bella, Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine.

In the speech, Powell recounted a number of discussions between himself and his local constituents. According to Powell, a recurrent theme in their conversations had been immigration. He painted a picture of an increasingly beleaguered indigenous British population who felt threatened by the influx of a heavy stream of migrants who did not seem to be making any effort to integrate. On the contrary, their actions were causing many locals to live in fear. Powell quoted one of his residents as saying, “f I has the money to go, I
wouldn’t stay in this country…in fifteen or twenty years’ time, the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”

Milestones: 'Like the Roman'. Enoch Powell and English Immigration Law | Burke | Amsterdam Law Forum

truthatallcost said:

Early reports are stating the motive may have been to detonate a bomb in the Louvre museum.

Two men were involved, one was carrying suspicious suitcases into the museum.

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I hear that no explosives were found so far.

Would have been somewhat strange anyway, on the one hand having somehow gotten hold of explosives (or showing enough sophistication to cook some up) and on the other hand bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Only attacker count of any certainty so far is "one", there's talk of a second guy involved but no information as to the nature of involvement.

truthatallcost said:

I believe that the US will intervene in case of civil war in France, especially with Trump as president. No situation needs to be permanent, we can reverse these injustices when the people refuse to tolerate madness any longer.

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No civil war is possible now, there is not enough of them yet. And we could handle it effectively if we wanted, the only danger is that our government would probably let them kill many of us to limit their casualties.

For now we only risk large riots. Even in the worse case it could hardly go higher than a few tens of thousands of deaths. The ideal would be a hundred of thousands of casualties on our sides. Below that the sheeps would still call to peace. It needs to be really big to convince the frog to jump before it is boiled.

The danger is rather in a few decades, once they will account to two thirds of our youth in Paris and once they will control half of Paris' region with their own police forces.

The earlier and bigger the problems, the better. Later it will be worse. ISIS is our best ally.

Auvergnat said:

Business as usual.

Anyway a few hundreds of deaths a year is nothing in comparison to the islamization and to the local ethnic cleansings we will see on both sides in the future once we will be the new Lebanon. Millions of cadavers will float in the Seine.

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I hope you're seeing someone about all this.

Now some will once again blame our intelligence services for not having a crystal ball and not putting a cop behind every citizen. I am not one of those and I want privacy. The only solution would be to get rid of Muslims. No Muslims, no problems. France would be a lot better without them.

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Heck, best solution is to get rid of people altogether.

zyzygy said:

Enoch Powell was saying the same thing about the UK in 1968. It didn't happen. It won't happen.

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In this speech Powell mentioned 50k immigrants a year. Fifty years later the UK now gets 800k immigrants a year.

It will happen like it recurrently happens in Lebanon.

From just 3 weeks ago:

Louvre blames 2 million fall in visitor numbers on terrorism fears

The Louvre museum lost nearly €10m (£8.6m) last year after a drop in visitor numbers blamed on fears of terrorism and closures caused by the risk of flooding.

Jean-Luc Martinez, head of the Parisian institution, said it had been “a difficult year” for most tourist sites in the French capital and the museum had finished the year with 15% fewer visitors than in 2015 – down about 2 million people to 7.3 million.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...on-fall-in-visitor-numbers-on-terrorism-fears

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Well who wants to vacation to where armed soldiers have to be on duty 24/7? Really, this is not the Paris I've read about in books, the Paris of the 60's which sounds amazing.

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From just 3 weeks ago:



Well who wants to vacation to where armed soldiers have to be on duty 24/7?

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No prob for me, I've been going before and since Bataclan and find it no less attractive.

Really, this is not the Paris I've read about in books, the Paris of the 60's which sounds amazing.

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I have news for ya, nothing is what it was in the 60s.

Heck, I'm not what I used to be in the 60s.

But I'm still amazing.:mrgreen:

Auvergnat said:

In this speech Powell mentioned 50k immigrants a year. Fifty years later the UK now gets 800k immigrants a year.

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WTH ARE you talking about?

truthatallcost said:

Well who wants to vacation to where armed soldiers have to be on duty 24/7? Really, this is not the Paris I've read about in books, the Paris of the 60's which sounds amazing.

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And who will buy our luxury brands when Paris will no longer mean glamour but sharia? After inventing the women's suit, will Channel invent tomorrow's burka?

Auvergnat said:

And who will buy our luxury brands when Paris will no longer mean glamour but sharia? After inventing the women's suit, will Channel invent tomorrow's burka?

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I assume the brand name will be La Mange, eh?:lamo

Right now I'd worry more about one of Paris' more prominent fashion figures bearing the boche name of Lagerfeld.:2razz:

Auvergnat said:

And who will buy our luxury brands when Paris will no longer mean glamour but sharia? After inventing the women's suit, will Channel invent tomorrow's burka?

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I've had enough Hermès saddles and Lenvin jackets for a life time. They were much over rated, but good for prestige, no doubt. Let's move on.

Chagos said:

I assume the brand name will be La Mange, eh?:lamo

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....make that La Manche (I was thinking of sumpin' else while writing).

It was one man, rumours of there having been a second one now turning out as untrue.

Auvergnat said:

In this speech Powell mentioned 50k immigrants a year. Fifty years later the UK now gets 800k immigrants a year.

It will happen like it recurrently happens in Lebanon.

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You may not have noticed but there has been no civil war in the UK.

truthatallcost said:

From just 3 weeks ago:



Well who wants to vacation to where armed soldiers have to be on duty 24/7? Really, this is not the Paris I've read about in books, the Paris of the 60's which sounds amazing.

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You mean like in '68 with the student and worker riots when the streets of Paris were full of violence and armed soldiers and riot police?

truthatallcost said:

From just 3 weeks ago:



Well who wants to vacation to where armed soldiers have to be on duty 24/7? Really, this is not the Paris I've read about in books, the Paris of the 60's which sounds amazing.

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I was born in Paris. Since that event it has been pretty well continuously down hill. But I definitely do not accept all the blame.

zyzygy said:

You mean like in '68 with the student and worker riots when the streets of Paris were full of violence and armed soldiers and riot police?

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Heck, I well remember the eighties when Paris was bulging with submachine guns and assault rifles. Not to mention those holding either of the two.

On account of the Action Directe.

Chagos said:

Heck, I well remember the eighties when Paris was bulging with submachine guns and assault rifles. Not to mention those holding either of the two.

On account of the Action Directe.

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Over eight years they killed 12 people. Islamists kill hundreds of us every year and this is the least of our problems with Islam.

Auvergnat said:

Over eight years they killed 12 people. Islamists kill hundreds of us every year and this is the least of our problems with Islam.

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I don't count threat levels by the number of dead and in this particular case, even where I wasn't replying to anything of yours anyway, I was addressing the sight of armed personnel in the streets (here of Paris) to be not such a novelty as obviously perceived as being (by some).

Try to pay attention, would you please?

Chagos said:

I don't count threat levels by the number of dead and in this particular case, even where I wasn't replying to anything of yours anyway, I was addressing the sight of armed personnel in the streets (here of Paris) to be not such a novelty as obviously perceived as being (by some).

Try to pay attention, would you please?

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I believe that there was a period in the 1940's when the streets in Paris were full of armed soldiers. Things are much better nowadays.

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I don't count threat levels by the number of dead..

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Then how do you measure them? By the size of wedgie that they give you?

and in this particular case, even where I wasn't replying to anything of yours anyway, I was addressing the sight of armed personnel in the streets (here of Paris) to be not such a novelty as obviously perceived as being (by some).

Try to pay attention, would you please?

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Well then, armed soldiers in Paris in the 1940's, 80's, and again today. Nothing to worry about, right?

5,000,000 potential threats living within France is just fine, correct?