British man killed himself to avoid ISIS capture.

Briton Ryan Lock 'killed himself' to avoid IS capture - BBC News


Sad story with a sad end. I don't condone anyone going to Syria and doing this as it should be left to the professionals but in this age of selfishness and detachment from reality I at least commend him for trying to do something more than sharing a status or a tweet. There will be no parades for this man but I'm sure his sacrifice will be remembered by the Kurds he died fighting alongside. I also give him credit for not allowing himself to become an isis hostage, took an amazing amount of courage I'm sure.

Higgins86 said:

Briton Ryan Lock 'killed himself' to avoid IS capture - BBC News


Sad story with a sad end. I don't condone anyone going to Syria and doing this as it should be left to the professionals but in this age of selfishness and detachment from reality I at least commend him for trying to do something more than sharing a status or a tweet. There will be no parades for this man but I'm sure his sacrifice will be remembered by the Kurds he died fighting alongside. I also give him credit for not allowing himself to become an isis hostage, took an amazing amount of courage I'm sure.

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My sympathies to this brave man's family, and condolences to the British people on their loss.

Higgins86 said:

Briton Ryan Lock 'killed himself' to avoid IS capture - BBC News


Sad story with a sad end. I don't condone anyone going to Syria and doing this as it should be left to the professionals but in this age of selfishness and detachment from reality I at least commend him for trying to do something more than sharing a status or a tweet. There will be no parades for this man but I'm sure his sacrifice will be remembered by the Kurds he died fighting alongside. I also give him credit for not allowing himself to become an isis hostage, took an amazing amount of courage I'm sure.

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That British man had more courage than every liberal on Earth combined. He's actually fighting terrorists while most liberals retreat to their safe-spaces when confronted with mere thoughts that they disagree with.

reinoe said:

That British man had more courage than every liberal on Earth combined. He's actually fighting terrorists while most liberals retreat to their safe-spaces when confronted with mere thoughts that they disagree with.

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I don't disagree, I dislike Trump immensely but it feels like the protests are fashionable, an excuse to go "live" on facebook. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they have what it takes to go the distance.

reinoe said:

That British man had more courage than every liberal on Earth combined. He's actually fighting terrorists while most liberals retreat to their safe-spaces when confronted with mere thoughts that they disagree with.

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Can't you ferchristsake leave the rabid partisanship in the gutter just long enough to say something positive about someone?

Grand Mal said:

Can't you ferchristsake leave the rabid partisanship in the gutter just long enough to say something positive about someone?

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Are you confused? He did say something positive about him.

reinoe said:

That British man had more courage than every liberal on Earth combined. He's actually fighting terrorists while most liberals retreat to their safe-spaces when confronted with mere thoughts that they disagree with.

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Typical hate-filled extremist behavior. You simply have no problem taking an event to politicize it for your own purposes. It's very evident to all that you have no concern for anyone or anything but your agenda.

Beyond despicable.

Higgins86 said:

I don't disagree, I dislike Trump immensely but it feels like the protests are fashionable, an excuse to go "live" on facebook. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they have what it takes to go the distance.

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You agree with that partisan crap?????

Serenity said:

Typical hate-filled extremist behavior. You simply have no problem taking an event to politicize it for your own purposes. It's very evident to all that you have no concern for anyone or anything but your agenda.

Beyond despicable.

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Serenity said:

You agree with that partisan crap?????

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Yes I agree that these popular protests we are seeing around the globe are nothing more than an extension of social media and popular thinking. If they really cared they would of rallied behind Clinton but they didn't, they would of rallied behind not voting no in brexit but they didnt etc. At a certain point the left has to get serious and start being much much more pro active, voting would be a start.
Now I know many left wing people who do actually try and make a difference you of course are an example of this. But in terms of the protests we have seen in the past few weeks? Yes I agree and if that makes me partisan so be it. This fake outrage after the fact just doesn't sit well with me.

Let's not forget as well that it was the same protestors in the U.K that opposed intervention several years ago and yet a month ago they were #Aleppo begging the west to intervene, calling the US and U.K. Governments failures for letting it go this far.
I can only stomach so much hypocrisy.

Serenity said:

Typical hate-filled extremist behavior. You simply have no problem taking an event to politicize it for your own purposes. It's very evident to all that you have no concern for anyone or anything but your agenda.

Beyond despicable.

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I would point out that in my post I was praising this man and making commentary. You have nothing to say about this hero at all and instead used this thread as an opportunity to spew your own personal brand of hatred. It's one of the most glaring displays I've ever seen on this forum, which is saying a whole lot.

reinoe said:

I would point out that in my post I was praising this man and making commentary. You have nothing to say about this hero at all and instead used this thread as an opportunity to spew your own personal brand of hatred. It's one of the most glaring displays I've ever seen on this forum, which is saying a whole lot.

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I make no apologies for pointing out that your attempt to exploit someones death to politicize it for your own purposes is a disgrace. I don't much care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about that.

Higgins86 said:

Now I know many left wing people who do actually try and make a difference you of course are an example of this. But in terms of the protests we have seen in the past few weeks? Yes I agree and if that makes me partisan so be it. This fake outrage after the fact just doesn't sit well with me.

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If you know many left wing people who do actually try to make a difference then why would you even consider agreeing with a post that states in part, garbage like this?

That British man had more courage than every liberal on Earth combined.

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Serenity said:

I make no apologies for pointing out that your attempt to exploit someones death to politicize it for your own purposes is a disgrace. I don't much care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about that.

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So it's safe to say, at this point that you don't care about this man's life at all since you've spent two posts now ignoring his sacrifice and engaging in hatred instead?

I've been consistent in my disregard for hypocrites of all stripes. Whether it's conservatives whining about abortion but then cutting off support for poor mothers and making children's families homeless after they leave the womb.

Liberals whinging about how horrible it is that they can't find a job after college but celebrating illegal immigrants taking entry level jobs in this country.

Or you, talking about how horrible it is to engage in "partisan hatred" while ignoring the fact that you're the only person in this thread who hasn't actually addressed this man's death and actions at all.

Serenity said:

If you know many left wing people who do actually try to make a difference then why would you even consider agreeing with a post that states in part, garbage like this?

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I glossed over his point. Of course I don't agree that every liberal is a coward but I do think that the recent demonstrations we are witnessing is bull****. They are not exactly the Chartists, they have no agenda, no agreed mandate instead it's just outrage and catchy signs.
I'm an ex Labour voter who currently has no party to vote for because they are either far right or wet blankets with no direction.

Now I'm annoyed because I tried to avoid the right vs left debate but yet it finds me. I guess that's where we're at now.

Excon said:

Are you confused? He did say something positive about him.

That British man had more courage than ...
He's actually fighting terrorists ...​

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Can you read? What did I write? The part that starts with 'leave' and ends with 'gutter' is the important part.
Read it again and get back to me with what you get from it.

reinoe said:

So it's safe to say, at this point that you don't care about this man's life at all since you've spent two posts now ignoring his sacrifice and engaging in hatred instead?

I've been consistent in my disregard for hypocrites of all stripes. Whether it's conservatives whining about abortion but then cutting off support for poor mothers and making children's families homeless after they leave the womb.

Liberals whinging about how horrible it is that they can't find a job after college but celebrating illegal immigrants taking entry level jobs in this country.

Or you, talking about how horrible it is to engage in "partisan hatred" while ignoring the fact that you're the only person in this thread who hasn't actually addressed this man's death and actions at all.

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My posts at DP have consistently and frequently showed GENUINE compassion and humanity for everyone . They speak for themselves and I'll let anyone reasonable come to their own conclusions. Your posts are full of partisan crap.

Higgins86 said:

I glossed over his point. Of course I don't agree that every liberal is a coward but I do think that the recent demonstrations we are witnessing is bull****. They are not exactly the Chartists, they have no agenda, no agreed mandate instead it's just outrage and catchy signs.
I'm an ex Labour voter who currently has no party to vote for because they are either far right or wet blankets with no direction.

Now I'm annoyed because I tried to avoid the right vs left debate but yet it finds me. I guess that's where we're at now.

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You can thank Reinoe (post 3) for starting the Left vs right debate. It's your thread, you should have put a stop to it then instead of agreeing with him and encouraging his bull****.

Grand Mal said:

Can you read?

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Most certainly. Which is why I was able to point out the flaw in what you said. What surrounded that flaw is irrelevant.

Serenity said:

My posts at DP have consistently and frequently showed GENUINE compassion and humanity for everyone . They speak for themselves and I'll let anyone reasonable come to their own conclusions. Your posts are full of partisan crap.

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# of posts Serenity has in this thread=6
# of posts Serenity has made about this man who died fighting terrorists=0

Your conduct in other threads has nothing to do with your conduct in this one. It's shameful. This courageous person was not posting from the safety of twitter, a forum, signing a meaningless online petition, or even going out to the relative safety of the British streets and protesting. He's out there doing something.

The next time your local tofu farting birkenstock wearing basement dwelling social justice warrior whines about how horrible women have it in this country, point them to the nearest Peace-Corp registration office. Then they can actually do some volunteer work in a nation where women are actually being oppressed so that they can get some perspective.

reinoe said:

# of posts Serenity has in this thread=6
# of posts Serenity has made about this man who died fighting terrorists=0

Your conduct in other threads has nothing to do with your conduct in this one. It's shameful. This courageous person was not posting from the safety of twitter, a forum, signing a meaningless online petition, or even going out to the relative safety of the British streets and protesting. He's out there doing something.

The next time your local tofu farting birkenstock wearing basement dwelling social justice warrior whines about how horrible women have it in this country, point them to the nearest Peace-Corp registration office. Then they can actually do some volunteer work in a nation where women are actually being oppressed so that they can get some perspective.

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For your information, post #2 in this thread has a "like" by not YOU, but me that actually DOES address the topic of this thread.

My sympathies to this brave man's family, and condolences to the British people on their loss.

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That was before you came into the thread and derailed it with your bull**** partisan idiocy.

Regarding perspective, feel free to share your experiences relating to volunteering over in some of these Country's and details of your contribution. We can swap notes.

Serenity said:

For your information, post #2 in this thread has a "like" by not YOU, but me that actually DOES address the topic of this thread.



That was before you came into the thread and derailed it with your bull**** partisan idiocy.

Regarding perspective, feel free to share your experiences relating to volunteering over in some of these Country's and details of your contribution. We can swap notes.

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1. I'm an "America First" volunteer. I care about my country.

2. I did my time with Habitat For Humanity and I have always praised Jimmy Carter for his genuine sincerity in caring about the wellbeing of people. So calling me a partisan is absolute bull****.

3. I make no bones about America being less than perfect. But I certainly didn't whinge about the U.S. being a hopeless dictatorship under Obama where "x" people are second class citizens.

Liberals in this country have lost a huge amount of perspective. Women's rights, minorities, LGBTQ, immigrants: if you were to listen to them you'd think that Trump's nomination has turned this country into a flaming pile of **** in a matter of week where people are literally hunted down and executed. And yet despite their wailing and gnashing of teeth they most they can muster is to protest based on lies, and half the time they'll only do so if they're being paid otherwise they're keyboard warriors at best.

These people don't give a damn about anyone else but they'll do their damndest to make it appear so from the safety and comfort of their safe-spaces via twitter. Their opinion on "making a difference" doesn't extend beyond any action that cannot result in self-congratulatory accolades amongst themselves. I scoff at the notion of anyone demanding "protection for women/LGBTQ" while at the same time criticizing Trump's ban on immigrants from the 7 countries listed. Try being a member of the "LGBTQ" community on one of those 7 countries.

Yes this man was courageous, and I stand by what I said. This man was more courageous then every liberal on Earth.

reinoe said:

This man was more courageous then every liberal on Earth.

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He was indeed courageous and my sympathies are with his family and loved ones, may he RIP.

I couldn't disagree with you more in relation to the part I have underlined and I'm done going back and forth with you, there is no common ground to be found with you and others who agree with you. There are untold courageous Liberals out there walking the walk, not just talking the talk. It's a pity you are too partisan to recognise and acknowledge that.

reinoe said:

~ Yes this man was courageous, and I stand by what I said. This man was more courageous then every liberal on Earth.

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I've been following Lock's story alongside Nazzareno Tassone's for a while now so what makes you think these two were not liberals?

You see, partisan idiotic bull**** has no place in an R.I.P.

The young man was brave, I admire what he and others I have posted about on this forum have done in going to fight alongside Kurds. Kurds, who because they would have an Iraqi passport can now not escape to the US because of Trump.