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French Socialists pick Benoit Hamon for presidential run

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Benoit Hamon, France's former education minister, has won the race to represent the Socialist party in this year's presidential election.

The left-wing candidate secured more than 58 percent of the vote ahead of former prime minister Manuel Valls.

Hamon is vowing to unite a party that is trailing in the race for the presidency.

Al Jazeera's David Chater reports from Paris.
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He is certainly going to have a uphill battle in this election. But its clear that this election shows that Socialist Party voters want ta break with policies of Hollande.
 
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Could be. Who could predict what will happen given the past year? However, the second round could prove to be a similar story to 2002. I would expect Le Pen to win a lot larger percentage of the vote than her father managed, but a 50%+ share? I doubt it, and I pray not.
 
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He is certainly going to have a uphill battle in this election. But its clear that this election shows that Socialist Party voters want ta break with policies of Hollande.
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Interesting choice. I'd never even heard his name before yesterday, so I'd better do some reading up before commenting on his chances and his suitability. I'm pleased Valls failed to win the nomination; he's a Tony Blair-style cuckoo in the nest - a very authoritarian, right-wing pseudo-socialist, and nothing good comes of those types.
 
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Hamon promised to add 400 billions of annual taxes to implement an universal income. Only 10% of French citizens plan to vote for him and he will likely be at the fourth or fifth spot in the race.

The true candidate of the socialists is Macron, who is not a socialist and did not take part in this race. He is a messianic catch-all centrist candidate with a liberal and laissez-faire agenda, who poses as a reformist expert and enjoys the support of many of our billionaires, and is currently recruiting anyone and his mother to stuff the parliament since he has no political force with him.

So far the race is between Macron (liberal and midly laissez-faire), Fillon (social conservative and midly laissez-faire), Le Pen (nationalist and social-democrat). All three would let Islam grow further.


Hamon grew up in Senegal. He stated that the first time he came to France, he thought "there were too many white people". He loves Islam more than any other candidate. When the far-right mocked him as "Bilal Hamon", he enthusiastically adopted this surname and instructed us on the role of Bilal in the Koran.
 
Auvergnat said:
Hamon promised to add 400 billions of annual taxes to implement an universal income. Only 10% of French citizens plan to vote for him and he will likely be at the fourth or fifth spot in the race.

The true candidate of the socialists is Macron, who is not a socialist and did not take part in this race. He is a messianic catch-all centrist candidate with a liberal and laissez-faire agenda, who poses as a reformist expert and enjoys the support of many of our billionaires, and is currently recruiting anyone and his mother to stuff the parliament since he has no political force with him.

So far the race is between Macron (liberal and midly laissez-faire), Fillon (social conservative and midly laissez-faire), Le Pen (nationalist and social-democrat). All three would let Islam grow further.


Hamon grew up in Senegal. He stated that the first time he came to France, he thought "there were too many white people". He loves Islam more than any other candidate. When the far-right mocked him as "Bilal Hamon", he enthusiastically adopted this surname and instructed us on the role of Bilal in the Koran.
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Thanks for the greater detail. I think I'm warming to him.

Fillon seems to be a busted flush. Every day seems to bring to light more evidence of his corrupt activities. I think that's an impression the Republicans were trying to avoid in rejecting sleazy Sarkozy. It seems it's standard operating procedure for them. I don't know much about Macron, but he seems as if he may be France's only hope of avoiding a victory for Pétain... I mean Le Pen.
 
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Fillon seems to be a busted flush. Every day seems to bring to light more evidence of his corrupt activities. I think that's an impression the Republicans were trying to avoid in rejecting sleazy Sarkozy. It seems it's standard operating procedure for them. I don't know much about Macron, but he seems as if he may be France's only hope of avoiding a victory for Pétain... I mean Le Pen.
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About Fillon we will see.

Now the accusations about his relatives' fake jobs are probably real, at least partially. However it took our justice four months to prosecute cops killers and one hour to prosecute Fillon. Meanwhile the medias have very extensively covered his case while many of them have been very silent about Macron.

Because Macron has spent 160k€ of public money in dinners last year for his campaign. Moreover he declared a negative assets balance despite having earned 3.3 millions of euros between 2009 and 2014 as a director at the Rotschild bank. Interestingly he claims to own less than 100k of financial products. Either he frauds maximally, either he burns his money at such a rate that he owes favors to everyone.


Of course most of the medias that extensively reported about Fillon's dirty laundry and not about Macron's belong to the people who support Macron. The same medias who will absurdly compare Le Pen to Hitler every hour.

We do not live in democracy but there is hope: many open source plans exist for 3D-printing guillotines.
 
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About Fillon we will see.

Now the accusations about his relatives' fake jobs are probably real, at least partially. However it took our justice four months to prosecute cops killers and one hour to prosecute Fillon. Meanwhile the medias have very extensively covered his case while many of them have been very silent about Macron.

Because Macron has spent 160k€ of public money in dinners last year for his campaign. Moreover he declared a negative assets balance despite having earned 3.3 millions of euros between 2009 and 2014 as a director at the Rotschild bank. Interestingly he claims to own less than 100k of financial products. Either he frauds maximally, either he burns his money at such a rate that he owes favors to everyone.


Of course most of the medias that extensively reported about Fillon's dirty laundry and not about Macron's belong to the people who support Macron. The same medias who will absurdly compare Le Pen to Hitler every hour.

We do not live in democracy but there is hope: many open source plans exist for 3D-printing guillotines.
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It looks to me that Fillon's campaign is going to the dogs very fast. Today it appears that not only the wife but the kids were involved in bilking money out of the public purse. Juppé and Sarkozy, beaten by Fillon because he was seen as the clean and morally superior choice of the right.
 
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Thanks for the greater detail. I think I'm warming to him.

Fillon seems to be a busted flush. Every day seems to bring to light more evidence of his corrupt activities. I think that's an impression the Republicans were trying to avoid in rejecting sleazy Sarkozy. It seems it's standard operating procedure for them. I don't know much about Macron, but he seems as if he may be France's only hope of avoiding a victory for Pétain... I mean Le Pen.
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Pétain: went all out to co-operate with the Germans against the British. Traitor. Sentenced to death at the end o WWII (commuted).

Le Pen: all for co-operation with the British against the Germans. Patriot.
 
Pétain: anti-semite (racist, no matter that race wasn't really involved)
Le Pen (senior): anti-semite (racist, no matter that race wasn't really involved)
Le Pen (junior): anti Muslim (racist, no matter that race isn't really involved)

Ah the beauty of profiling, no matter how asinine.
 
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Pétain: anti-semite (racist, no matter that race wasn't really involved)
Le Pen (senior): anti-semite (racist, no matter that race wasn't really involved)
Le Pen (junior): anti Muslim (racist, no matter that race isn't really involved)

Ah the beauty of profiling, no matter how asinine.
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And the fact that there were 0.8% of Jews (constant) posing no problems against 8-11% of Muslims (will double in thirty years) who hate us and try to islamize France is of course irrelevant.

"Totally like 1933, bro, that' ma politik analysis ya see, those anti-immigration are evil ya see. And idiotz lol."

Reductio ad Hitlerium post after post, you have no argument.
 
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quite agree.

racist crap after all becomes racist crap only from a certain number of targets upward.
 
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