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England can still be England without being Great Britain - after all, what's in a name?
Being in the EU means abolishing democracy in favor of a foreign bureaucracy. This is unacceptable and it cannot be fixed.

Besides you dismiss sovereignty. Why should they let foreigners decide what takes place in their country?

Finally the immigration imposed by the EU pseudo-citizenship is so exorbitant that it would mean the destruction of the British culture: Britain has an immigration rate above 1% which, after taking into account their children and departures, would lead to half of the population becoming non-British in just a few decades. The EU is a mass cultural destruction project.
 
If you could only get that point across to certain members of this forum.
If only you could read what I write, you would know this is no what I claim.

It is not about your individuality, it is about:
* the sum of way too many of you.
* the impossible cohabitation of our populations.
* the fact that Islam and Arab cultures are not a desirable cultural influence for France.
 
Why then did he bring in the Koran telling all Muslims to kill atheists? I didn't put that in his mouth, he typed it.

Atheists fall into the non-Muslim category. The Koran does say to kill them.
 
If you could only get that point across to certain members of this forum.

I'm trying. And there is a related point that certain other members need to understand: that if only 5% of Muslims support terror that is a very large number of people. In a poll in the UK last year some 25% of young British Muslim men agreed with this statement: "Terrorist acts even within the UK are sometimes justified".
 
Being in the EU means abolishing democracy in favor of a foreign bureaucracy. This is unacceptable and it cannot be fixed.

Besides you dismiss sovereignty. Why should they let foreigners decide what takes place in their country?

Finally the immigration imposed by the EU pseudo-citizenship is so exorbitant that it would mean the destruction of the British culture: Britain has an immigration rate above 1% which, after taking into account their children and departures, would lead to half of the population becoming non-British in just a few decades. The EU is a mass cultural destruction project.

Yes. That has already happened in London where over half the population is foreign born. If one adds in those whose parents are immigrants the figure is a staggering 70% or so. The British are now heavily outnumbered in there own capital.
 
Yes. That has already happened in London where over half the population is foreign born. If one adds in those whose parents are immigrants the figure is a staggering 70% or so. The British are now heavily outnumbered in there own capital.
Indeed, and this is why white British people in London voted for the UKIP more than the rest of England.

If London voted less for the UKIP, it is because in London there are so many pseudo-British voters born from foreigners who do not care about the British culture.
 
Being in the EU means abolishing democracy in favor of a foreign bureaucracy. This is unacceptable and it cannot be fixed.

Being a state in the US does not "abolish democracy", neither does living in a city/town and voting for local authorities diminish democracy as well. In fact, all three are the exercise of one's democratic right to select their representatives within successive levels of democracy.

Besides you dismiss sovereignty. Why should they let foreigners decide what takes place in their country?

Sovereignty is show-business. A hangover from centuries past and has very little influence on the democratic right of peoples in Europe. In America, the present sovereigns are Rich Plutocrats like Donald Dork who derive their power solely from their Wealth - quite unlike Europe.

Finally the immigration imposed by the EU pseudo-citizenship is so exorbitant that it would mean the destruction of the British culture: Britain has an immigration rate above 1% which, after taking into account their children and departures, would lead to half of the population becoming non-British in just a few decades. The EU is a mass cultural destruction project.

Britain's culture is a functional attribute of the British people. In fact, they bring it with them everywhere they go. You should get to know some Brits in France.

They'd open up your horizons ...
 
Being a state in the US does not "abolish democracy", neither does living in a city/town and voting for local authorities diminish democracy as well. In fact, all three are the exercise of one's democratic right to select their representatives within successive levels of democracy.
The democracy in the USA is a joke, and this is why Trump will be unable to stop immigration, and why Americans do not even bother voting.

And the EU is even worse than the USA because we have 24 languages, more than thirty cultures, and even more identities. How could there be a political life in those conditions, how could we share the same medias, how could we build common perceptions and ideas, how could our leaders address us? Not only we do not have the same interests, our interests conflict with each other and there is no solidarity between us. The EU is not a nation, it is a trade chamber that wants the power of a nation.

Democracy takes more than a vote!

Sovereignty is show-business.
Without sovereignty there cannot be democracy. Read Rousseau.

I must decide what takes place in my house, and French people must decide what takes place in France. Germans and Britons should not have their word.

Britain's culture is a functional attribute of the British people. In fact, they bring it with them everywhere they go. You should get to know some Brits in France.
You may carry your culture with you, yet a culture without territory disappears in a fistful of generations.

For you politics is about the GDP growth in Q2-2017. No, politics is about what your country will be in a century. You received a gift from your ancestors, its history, wealth and culture, and you owe to transmit it intact and brighter to your descendants.
 
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Democracy takes more than a vote!

Democracy starts with a vote!

And voting should be a national obligation, punishable with a fine. Yes, you are right to say that we Yanks - for all the yelling about "The Greatest Democracy on Earth" - don't get out the vote.

But, that is more a problem of education than anything else. It is perfectly clear on this forum that the Civic Comprehension in the US is lacking. And this is most certainly due to the fact that successfully passing a Civics Class was not a prerequisite for obtaining a high-school degree.

Which it should be.

Some good news from the Education Commission of the US:
Education Commission of the States and the National Center for Learning and Civic Engagement periodically review state statute, administrative code, standards and curriculum to capture the status of civic learning across the United States. This December 2016 update comes as states prepare to implement the Every Student Succeeds Act and have innovative opportunities to provide students with a well-rounded education.

Some key findings from the update include:
*Forty-seven states and the District of Columbia address civic education in state statute.
*Every state requires students to complete coursework in civics or social studies in order to graduate. The amount of coursework varies by state.

*Thirty-seven states require students to demonstrate proficiency through assessment in civics or social studies.
*Seventeen states include civic learning in their accountability frameworks.

Every state includes civic learning or social studies in its standards or curriculum. Twenty states provide curriculum support and forty-eight states include civic learning as a strand in their standards.

The rest is worth reading. There is hope that by enhancing rudimentary intelligence of "civics", another Donald Dork can never be elected; but that depends heavily upon our changing to a pure popular-vote and trashing an antiquated "Electoral College".

But I don't see that happening any time soon - not with a prevailing mentality that would have brushed off the fact that Hillary is the sixth victim-candidate in American history to have won the PotUS-election Popular-vote but lost the Electoral Vote. Which is a transgression of a fundamental principal of "Fair & Impartial Voting Rights". (The last one was Al Gore - remember him?)

That's six far too many!

The popular-vote is the only election criteria that matters in a real democracy ...
 
The popular-vote is the only election criteria that matters in a real democracy ...
So you agree that since 70% of Frenchmen think there are too many immigrants, and less than 10% think Islam is good for France, then our leaders should urgently stop immigration?
 
Democracy starts with a vote!
Another way to say "ok, the EU is not a democracy, but in a few centuries it may become one, once it will have destroyed your languages and cultures."

No, democracy does not start with a vote. Democracy starts with a guillotine.
 
England can still be England without being Great Britain - after all, what's in a name?
England is a part of Great Britain. The name is an old one. When when the Anglo-Saxons pushed the native British population in to Wales and Cornwall some of the Brits crossed the Channel and the part of France that they settled came to be known as Brittany, Little Britain. So the great just means big.
 
So you agree that since 70% of Frenchmen think there are too many immigrants, and less than 10% think Islam is good for France, then our leaders should urgently stop immigration?
sources? links?
 
England is a part of Great Britain. The name is an old one. When when the Anglo-Saxons pushed the native British population in to Wales and Cornwall some of the Brits crossed the Channel and the part of France that they settled came to be known as Brittany, Little Britain. So the great just means big.

I luv "word games" ... :)

Lemme see, shall we stop calling the US, "United" States, because in this last election the Electoral College showed well how that monicker was false.

How about the "Greater & Lesser States"? Or, the "Almost United States"? Or, "Grate America" as in "Great Lakes"?
 
Another way to say "ok, the EU is not a democracy, but in a few centuries it may become one, once it will have destroyed your languages and cultures." No, democracy does not start with a vote. Democracy starts with a guillotine.

Pitifully pithy ...
 
So you agree that since 70% of Frenchmen think there are too many immigrants, and less than 10% think Islam is good for France, then our leaders should urgently stop immigration?

Yes, that may be the general feeling nowadays.

I've never thought that France was such an "open country". But the fact remains nonetheless that it is not the least bit "homogenous" as far as genetic makeup is concerned. It has been both literally and physically the "crossroads" of Europe.

For amusement, the Genetic Map of Europe:
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Caveat:
The map above is only based on Y-DNA, thus only shows male common ancestors not female ones. Moreover, it should obviously not be used to imply that any country is better than any other. While there may be differences between some of us, we are all equal.

Note that Germany is even more pluralistic in genetic makeup than even France. Surprise, surprise.

The R1b-Dna seems prevalent, meaning that - if there is a most-part" to Europe - it is Celtic, Basque, Italic, Frisian and Saxon. And if "England" got its name from the Angles, it was actually the Saxons that for the most part conquered the land after the demise of the Roman Empire ...

The genetic pool is a huge mish-mash, so - I say - there was no real dominant "original European".

And there is still not - the EU is truly polygenetic* ...

*"Origin from more than one ancestral species or line"
 
I've never thought that France was such an "open country". But the fact remains nonetheless that it is not the least bit "homogenous" as far as genetic makeup is concerned. It has been both literally and physically the "crossroads" of Europe.
But it is NOT about genes. It is about identity.

We successfully assimilated (not integrated) those people. We were NOT multicultural, we were assimilationist, like the USA still were not so long ago. And immigration was way slower than today: current immigration levels are untenable and will cause many conflicts all over Europe.

As De Gaulle said, you can assimilate an individual, not a people.
 
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