Re: Sweden's leading shopping mall is deemed a no-go zone
Not necessarily. The term can be used to describe an area where either outsiders or authority figures try to avoid at all cost. There's an area of my town that I've heard police call a 'no man's land', same concept.
Ha, I've got a sign at the gate that says "never mind about the dog, it's the owner that's the menace" :mrgreen:
True, and those people who tried to intervene and help should be applauded. However, it's pretty plain at this point that Swedish culture and African culture are very different. Unless Sweden wishes to devolve into violence like my home country has, they'd better start planning a path that recognizes this.
Indeed it would be absurd to claim that respective cultures of Swedes and Somalis have much in common. Or Swedes and any other culture from a different continent. Just as it would be absurd to expect any sort of coexistence likely to succeed, if it is cemented perpetually in ghetto-ization of one or both groups.
Integration is required (not assimilation) and that requires willingness on both sides. In the case of refugees having arrived from countries that have been declared as safe (not war zones), immigrants from there are considered to be economic tourists with the likelihood of their application for asylum succeeding being very remote. Where the "processing" towards the final status of these people is sluggish in every European country, they spend considerable time living under the Damocles sword of eventual deportation. That this makes a bunch of them antagonistic doesn't come as much of a surprise. It isn't any excuse either.
Everybody has meanwhile "closed the shop BTW", even Germany. That the latter "opened the borders" is a widely misunderstood concept anyway. That action (actually not closing them since they were open to other EU countries anyway) was due to the atrocious conditions that were to be seen in Hungary at the time. Where the authorities did absolutely nothing about registering and processing as would have been their duty (not to mention even feeding anybody). Partly for reasons of xenophobia but also out of being totally over-challenged. Causing Germany to ease the pressure by opening a valve. With Sweden co-operating.
The reaction that followed was under-estimated and by the time realization dawned, there was no way of closing the valve anymore.
A similar effect, albeit not yet as desperate, can be seen today in Greece and Italy (once again). With seaboards as extended as those of both, they can't be completely secured. Both Italy and Greece being thus left largely in the lurch with the EU as a whole doing bugger all to help, as always was the case before 2015. The pressure of 2015 resulted from the escalation in Syria as much as from the explosion of camps already existing in Jordan and Lebanon, where the UN had had to turn off funds on account of having run out. That on account of payments having been cut by nations, those of the EU included.
Classical case of "what goes round, comes round".
I can get my ass beat any day of the week, no need to travel to Athens :lamo A 15 minute drive to the west side of town will put one in that 'no man's land' I spoke of earlier.
Although it will take you more than 15 minutes, just ring the bell on my front gate (see above) and you can get a whoopin' here.:mrgreen:
Just kidding, if you'd taken all that time and trouble, I'd offer you at least a beer.
You've been to the favelas of Rio? What were you doing there if so? Sounds interesting.
One of them and one that (in local jargon) was considered pacified (purified would be more apt). Business friend that obviously knew the ropes took me just to demonstrate what it looked like.
There are others still totally in the hands of armed gangs where the police venture only occasionally. Usually to kill anyone that has survived the gang wars.
It's totally eerie, enjoying the better parts of the city (or the beaches) and knowing that not so far away lies Comancheria.