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Terror truck drives into Berlin Chrstmas market

I remember that Christmas market fondly from our years in Berlin. Sad.
Yeah, it used to be nice and perhaps still is.

I finally quit going to those in the West though (as Berliners call anything in that direction even today) on account of their having become clones of each other. Seen one, seen them all.
 
Yeah, it used to be nice and perhaps still is.

I finally quit going to those in the West though (as Berliners call anything in that direction even today) on account of their having become clones of each other. Seen one, seen them all.

This was 1993-96. That one was the best.
 
And millions of innocents will die if we let Islam grow.

You do realize there's more than one kind of Islam, right?

Fantasizing about hypothetical "millions of dying" (something which no terrorist group has the power to do) aside......one would think people in Europe, at least, would remember what happened the last time they put far right lunatics in power.
 
You do realize there's more than one kind of Islam, right?
What I know is that the Islam found in the Koran is the same kind of ideology as Nazism.

Anyway, the blood baths will not necessarily be because of Muslims (although it probably will), it may simply be because we will not manage to live together and will become a new Sudan, Yugoslavia, Rwanda or Nigeria.

And finally even if the worse could be avoided, if we let our the regular parties continue like this they will turn France into a Franco-Muslim or Muslim country. Going to the extreme is regrettably the only way to prevent this and I prefer to risk a blood bath rather than let Islam grow.
 
What I know is that .......................
What does anything in the rant you follow up with have to do with the Berlin incident?

Seeing how this thread is not intended to provide you with yet another platform for your derailing everything towards your favourite black beast, why indeed don't you just simply start your own thread and there "express" your unsubstantiated opinions to your heart's content? .
 
What I know is that the Islam found in the Koran is the same kind of ideology as Nazism.

Anyway, the blood baths will not necessarily be because of Muslims (although it probably will), it may simply be because we will not manage to live together and will become a new Sudan, Yugoslavia, Rwanda or Nigeria.

And finally even if the worse could be avoided, if we let our the regular parties continue like this they will turn France into a Franco-Muslim or Muslim country. Going to the extreme is regrettably the only way to prevent this and I prefer to risk a blood bath rather than let Islam grow.

Uh......no, it's not. Not even close.

You do realize Yugoslavia doesn't fit into your painting, right? It was Christians committing the massacres there.

Also, you do realize everything in that last paragraph could have come right out of a German's mouth circa 1937? Just replace "Muslim" with "Jew", and, well....
 
You do realize Yugoslavia doesn't fit into your painting, right? It was Christians committing the massacres there.
Christans did most of the massacres but it was bilateral and this is irrelevant: my point is not that Islam is the root of all problems (although it is very troublesome), my point is that we have an identity conflict and that it will worsen as Islam will continue to grow. More and more there are an "us" and a "them" and we want two different and opposed civilizational models. Preaches about living together will not change this. More welfare, shaming against non-Muslims, pro-Muslim propaganda and education will not reverse the tide.

Also, you do realize everything in that last paragraph could have come right out of a German's mouth circa 1937? Just replace "Muslim" with "Jew", and, well....
Jews did not amount to a third of Berlin's youth while Muslims do amount to a third of the youth in Paris' region. Jews were not judeaizing Germany, Muslims do islamize France. I have the right to stop the islamization of my country and prevent them to ruin my country as Islam did in all countries it conquered.

But since you insist to make a parallel, let me give you one: those words could be heard in Rwanda, in Yugoslavia, in Sudan, in Nigeria, and in tons of other places where two incompatible identities saw the frictions between them rise, usually because of a demographic or economic shift, and ended up killing each other. Same causes, same consequences. You always assumed it could be avoided, that you just had to fight the far-right, and you have been very naive.


The far-right is the symptom, not the cause. The cause is the underlying identity conflict caused by the fast rise of Islam in our countries and especially in our urban youth. On one hand you may think that by fighting the far-right you will slow down the emergence of conflicts, but on the other hand they are the only ones trying to solve it, through peaceful means for now on (immigration and the likes), because we still can. Later violence may become the only outcome.

You still do not agree? Then ask yourself: can you prevent the worse anyway? If at least you are unsure to be able to succeed, is it wise to continue throwing oil in the fire? Will you not endanger those immigrants that you let enter? Then what are your true motives to drive Islam to grow in your country? Stop Islamic immigration before things get out of hands.
 
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And millions of innocents will die if we let Islam grow. The danger now is Islam, not the far-right. And not even the far-right is ready to stop the rise of Islam yet.

Anyway the French far-right is more moderate than half of American conservatives.
Rot and nonsense.

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What I know is that the Islam found in the Koran is the same kind of ideology as Nazism.

Anyway, the blood baths will not necessarily be because of Muslims (although it probably will), it may simply be because we will not manage to live together and will become a new Sudan, Yugoslavia, Rwanda or Nigeria.

And finally even if the worse could be avoided, if we let our the regular parties continue like this they will turn France into a Franco-Muslim or Muslim country. Going to the extreme is regrettably the only way to prevent this and I prefer to risk a blood bath rather than let Islam grow.
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The Polish owner of the lorry that ploughed into a Berlin Christmas market, killing at least nine people in what police said was a possible terror attack, confirmed his driver was missing.

“We haven’t heard from him since this afternoon. We don’t know what happened to him. He’s my cousin, I’ve known him since I was a kid. I can vouch for him,” transport company owner Ariel Zurawski told AFP.

The company’s transport manager, Lukasz Wasik, said the driver is 37 years old and had been transporting Thyssen steel products from Italy to Berlin.

“The company where he was supposed to unload the products in Berlin was not able to receive them and told him to return on Tuesday morning. They told him to wait in Berlin somewhere,” Wasik told AFP.

“We lost contact with him around 3:00 pm local time. We don’t know what happened -- whether he was taken hostage, killed. We know nothing. We’re very worried about him.”

Polish owner of Berlin lorry says driver is missing | world-news | Hindustan Times

The truck belongs to a Polish lorry company and its legitimate driver is still missing, who could be the man who was shot at the scene. The most likely scenario is that the truck was hijacked by a terrorist who is now interrogated by the German police.
 
Christans did most of the massacres but it was bilateral and this is irrelevant: my point is not that Islam is the root of all problems (although it is very troublesome), my point is that we have an identity conflict and that it will worsen as Islam will continue to grow. More and more there are an "us" and a "them" and we want two different and opposed civilizational models. Preaches about living together will not change this. More welfare, shaming against non-Muslims, pro-Muslim propaganda and education will not reverse the tide.


Jews did not amount to a third of Berlin's youth while Muslims do amount to a third of the youth in Paris' region. Jews were not judeaizing Germany, Muslims do islamize France. I have the right to stop the islamization of my country and prevent them to ruin my country as Islam did in all countries it conquered.

But since you insist to make a parallel, let me give you one: those words could be heard in Rwanda, in Yugoslavia, in Sudan, in Nigeria, and in tons of other places where two incompatible identities saw the frictions between them rise, usually because of a demographic or economic shift, and ended up killing each other. Same causes, same consequences. You always assumed it could be avoided, that you just had to fight the far-right, and you have been very naive.


The far-right is the symptom, not the cause. The cause is the underlying identity conflict caused by the fast rise of Islam in our countries and especially in our urban youth. On one hand you may think that by fighting the far-right you will slow down the emergence of conflicts, but on the other hand they are the only ones trying to solve it, through peaceful means for now on (immigration and the likes), because we still can. Later violence may become the only outcome.

You still do not agree? Then ask yourself: can you prevent the worse anyway? If at least you are unsure to be able to succeed, is it wise to continue throwing oil in the fire? Will you not endanger those immigrants that you let enter? Then what are your true motives to drive Islam to grow in your country? Stop Islamic immigration before things get out of hands.

And of course, by "pro Muslim" you mean "treating Muslims like people instead of some kind of hive mind".

See, that's the problem--- no, the Jews weren't judaizing Germany---- but the average German was convinced they were. They thought they were stopping "Judeo Bolshevism" just as you think you are stopping "Islamization" and both of you are dead wrong.

The far right never stays "peaceful" for a second longer then they are forced to. The second they are tolerated, out come the knives.

If the far right tries to go to violence, fine. Crush them like bugs and they'll crawl back under their rocks.
 
Uh......no, it's not. Not even close.

You do realize Yugoslavia doesn't fit into your painting, right? It was Christians committing the massacres there.

Also, you do realize everything in that last paragraph could have come right out of a German's mouth circa 1937? Just replace "Muslim" with "Jew", and, well....

The average German didn't have reason to fear Jews in 1937. Jews weren't driving lorries into shopping crowds or slaughtering passengers on trains, while shouting religious slogans.

As much as you'd like to compare the emerging European right to Nazis of nearly a century ago, these are 2 different eras with different factors involved.
 
The average German didn't have reason to fear Jews in 1937. Jews weren't driving lorries into shopping crowds or slaughtering passengers on trains, while shouting religious slogans.

As much as you'd like to compare the emerging European right to Nazis of nearly a century ago, these are 2 different eras with different factors involved.

Nope, it's the same scumbags going after a different group. And people like you are enabling them.

Much like the average European or American today has no reason to fear Muslims, the average German had no reason to fear Jews. But a bunch of far right scumbags convinced them to go after the Jews, and millions of people died. The far right was crushed after World War Two. But now they are crawling back out from under their rocks.
 
Nope, it's the same scumbags going after a different group. And people like you are enabling them.

Much like the average European or American today has no reason to fear Muslims, the average German had no reason to fear Jews. But a bunch of far right scumbags convinced them to go after the Jews, and millions of people died. The far right was crushed after World War Two. But now they are crawling back out from under their rocks.

I say bring even more of these wonderful people into Germany and live the good life.
 
I say bring even more of these wonderful people into Germany and live the good life.

Sure. That way, when the SS wannabes come crawling out from under their rocks, they can hammered back down.

A handful of assholes doesn't make the whole group bad anymore then those Puerto Rican terrorists back in the 1950s made all Puerto Ricans bad.
 
What does anything in the rant you follow up with have to do with the Berlin incident?
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The Berlin "incident" has to do with the Koran's urging of Muslims to hunt down and kill unbelievers wherever they are hiding. All unbelievers are evil tools of Satan and all Western women are whores. Kill them all, until Allah reigns supreme. Allah u' Akbar. Selah.
 
Nope, it's the same scumbags going after a different group. And people like you are enabling them.

Who? Live up to your SN, be bold and name names.

Much like the average European or American today has no reason to fear Muslims, the average German had no reason to fear Jews.

I just gave you a reason why modern Germans have reason to fear Muslims.
Germany is not like the US; it's citizenry hasn't become accustomed to violence and mass killing as we have over here. Germany is one of the safest nations in the world. How will their attitudes change if, say, a 9/11 styled attack kills 3,000 Germans in one day?

But a bunch of far right scumbags convinced them to go after the Jews, and millions of people died.

Most German citizens didn't even know the concentration camps existed until the war was over. The Nazi propaganda machine didn't exactly broadcast the daily genocide totals over airwaves. Most Germans who weren't in the military had no idea about the genocide.


The far right was crushed after World War Two. But now they are crawling back out from under their rocks.

Who do you think defeated the Nazis? The Greatest Generation, that's who. And these people were no bleeding heart liberals eager to live amongst Islamic inspired chaos.
 
Who? Live up to your SN, be bold and name names.



I just gave you a reason why modern Germans have reason to fear Muslims.
Germany is not like the US; it's citizenry hasn't become accustomed to violence and mass killing as we have over here. Germany is one of the safest nations in the world. How will their attitudes change if, say, a 9/11 styled attack kills 3,000 Germans in one day?



Most German citizens didn't even know the concentration camps existed until the war was over. The Nazi propaganda machine didn't exactly broadcast the daily genocide totals over airwaves. Most Germans who weren't in the military had no idea about the genocide.




Who do you think defeated the Nazis? The Greatest Generation, that's who. And these people were no bleeding heart liberals eager to live amongst Islamic inspired chaos.

Well,meets see. Pretty much every far right group in Europe right now uses rhetoric that would make Hitler and Mussolini stand up and applaud, but the German group in particular has a lot of ties with Neo Nazis.

So in other words you assume that Germans are so cowardly that they'll go running for the far right? The country which fought the world not once but twice? Don't make me laugh:lamo

Bull****. They tried that excuse after the war. They knew the Jews were disappearing. They simply didn't care until it but them in the ass. Where the **** did they think the Jews were going--- to a ****ing soccer game?

The Greatest Generation certainly was no friend of those seeking to bring back the regimes they destroyed buddy. I hate to break it to you.
 
Yet it's a safe bet that the terrorist in question is copying the Nice attack in France last July that killed 84 people.

Being cautious in these events doesn't change the usual inevitable outcome. And delaying the appropriate motive is becoming tiresome in these attacks.

But Angela Merkel welcomed a million Muslims into Germany just last year. I am sure she would like to delay any mention of Muslim terrorism as long as possible.
 
The Berlin "incident" has to do with the Koran's urging of Muslims to hunt down and kill unbelievers wherever they are hiding. All unbelievers are evil tools of Satan and all Western women are whores. Kill them all, until Allah reigns supreme. Allah u' Akbar. Selah.
The Qur'an does not require the killing of all unbelievers.

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Germany will likely see their tourism drop now, similar to France:

Emma Rushton, a tourist, told CNN: “We were enjoying the Christmas lights and mulled wine. We were ready to get up when we heard a loud bang, To our left we saw Christmas lights torn down and the top of an articulated lorry crashing through the stalls and through people.

Police said the incident – which echoed an attack in Nice in July this year where 86 people were killed by a truck driven by a terrorist inspired by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) – appeared to be deliberate. On Monday night they warned local residents to stay indoors.
Berlin terror attack: Twelve dead and 48 injured as truck ploughs into crowd at Christmas market

Scores of women molested and robbed last New Years Eve, now a bloodbath at a nice shopping plaza loaded with tourists. How low is Germany willing to sink in order to accommodate this failed social experiment?
 
The Qur'an does not require the killing of all unbelievers.

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Little good that does for the 12 dead and scores wounded, perhaps crippled now, in Berlin tonight.
 
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