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Alleged Migrant Assault on German Women Caught on Tape

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This CCTV footage shows a German girl getting ambushed by a gang of migrants in a Berlin Neukölln Subway station. One of the men viciously kicks the young woman in the back - she tumbles down the stairs, hits her head on the floor and is later treated in the hospital. Another man picks up what appears to be one of her belonging. They then proceed to calmly walk away from the scene while by-passers rush to help her.



The video is recent, and purportedly shows a blonde haired German woman being attacked by one migrant man while his friends look on and laugh. There aren't many English based versions of this story available online, so I'm asking any German members, or those who are fluent in German, to comment if they've heard about this and what the validity is.

Thoughts?
Comments?
 


The video is recent, and purportedly shows a blonde haired German woman being attacked by one migrant man while his friends look on and laugh. There aren't many English based versions of this story available online, so I'm asking any German members, or those who are fluent in German, to comment if they've heard about this and what the validity is.

Thoughts?
Comments?


Maybe she is an Islamophobe? If she wasn't, she is now. Class act.
 


The video is recent, and purportedly shows a blonde haired German woman being attacked by one migrant man while his friends look on and laugh. There aren't many English based versions of this story available online, so I'm asking any German members, or those who are fluent in German, to comment if they've heard about this and what the validity is.

Thoughts?
Comments?
I have German and checked the Berlin newspapers. They all carry the same story and practically same text.

That said the footage appears to be from BVG's (Berlin's transport system) security cam. They apparently commented that they no longer have the footage, seeing how videos are automatically deleted within 48 hours after being taken. But they're said to have received a police enquiry shortly after the dirty deed and a copy was submitted to the precinct, the whole issue now being with the prosecutor's office.

One need know that the district of Neukölln is known for such occurrences, committed by all sorts of unpalatable elements that dwell there, with or without migrant background. The BVG alone has over 2000 incidences reported alone for this year.

This thing happened Oct-27 and the only positive thing is that the woman was reportedly not badly hurt. Less positive is that the perp probably won't be dragged up from anywhere, unless they catch him later in a "real crime". Not unlikely, seeing how the usual suspects are frequently involved in "more criminal" activity like drug dealing or robbery etc.

Police had sent out public call for witnesses to come forward and were only going to release the footage if no one reported in. Since no one did and, more importantly, since the footage is now out anyway (all over the print media and on local TV) they're now using it publicly as well.

Someone obviously leaked it, what remains mysterious though is how it took til now (whoever leaked it didn't get hold of it before?)

Neukölln (at least parts of it) has the reputation of being a social hotspot, nevertheless the number of such assaults has been on the downward trend over the past years.

Which is a fat load of comfort to anyone getting kicked down stairs this year.
 
I have German and checked the Berlin newspapers. They all carry the same story and practically same text.

That said the footage appears to be from BVG's (Berlin's transport system) security cam. They apparently commented that they no longer have the footage, seeing how videos are automatically deleted within 48 hours after being taken. But they're said to have received a police enquiry shortly after the dirty deed and a copy was submitted to the precinct, the whole issue now being with the prosecutor's office.

One need know that the district of Neukölln is known for such occurrences, committed by all sorts of unpalatable elements that dwell there, with or without migrant background. The BVG alone has over 2000 incidences reported alone for this year.

This thing happened Oct-27 and the only positive thing is that the woman was reportedly not badly hurt. Less positive is that the perp probably won't be dragged up from anywhere, unless they catch him later in a "real crime". Not unlikely, seeing how the usual suspects are frequently involved in "more criminal" activity like drug dealing or robbery etc.

Police had sent out public call for witnesses to come forward and were only going to release the footage if no one reported in. Since no one did and, more importantly, since the footage is now out anyway (all over the print media and on local TV) they're now using it publicly as well.

Someone obviously leaked it, what remains mysterious though is how it took til now (whoever leaked it didn't get hold of it before?)

Neukölln (at least parts of it) has the reputation of being a social hotspot, nevertheless the number of such assaults has been on the downward trend over the past years.

Which is a fat load of comfort to anyone getting kicked down stairs this year.

Thanks for the info. I've read that German police don't take these assaults seriously, and spend very little time bothering with them. This is clearly a hate crime, either motivated by the woman's German looks, her gender, or both.
Feminists have been pretty quiet about migrants attacks on women, but can you imagine the outrage if a blond haired, Aryan looking German guy booted a burka-wearing migrant woman down those same stairs?
 
~ a blonde haired German woman ~

I can't see blonde hair anywhere?

Nonetheless, it's a horrifying attack on a defenceless woman and I hope the gang gets caught and dealt with.
 
I can't see blonde hair anywhere?

Nonetheless, it's a horrifying attack on a defenceless woman and I hope the gang gets caught and dealt with.

She's wearing a hoodie that almost completely covers her hair. If you put the video on full screen, you can see that her hair color is a darkish blonde hue. She comes down the stairs with these guys following her, so I'd assume they saw her in the station prior to attacking her.
 
I can't see blonde hair anywhere?

Nonetheless, it's a horrifying attack on a defenceless woman and I hope the gang gets caught and dealt with.

Fat ****ing chance.
 
Thanks for the info. I've read that German police don't take these assaults seriously, and spend very little time bothering with them.
It's mostly an issue of being enormously understaffed. For years now Germany has been panting for a balanced budget (i.e. push new debts to zero and decrease those that exist) and has been doing great cuts in public spending. That of course extended to police forces on national, federal and city level. Now the powers that be have finally woken up but it's not as simple an issue as going out and hiring a bunch of new (additional) cops. To be cop in Germany, anyone pursuing that career has to go thru at least 30 months of training (police academy) so they can't really turn them out right now as fast as is needed.

Another thing is that crime rates are down more every year including for violence such as in this case. That has the savings fanatics in the councils reluctant in throwing any money that way.
This is clearly a hate crime, either motivated by the woman's German looks, her gender, or both.
In most of the (other) cases where the perps were actually nicked, they were as diverse in origin as were the victims. A common and worryingly motivation being simply "doing it for fun". It ain't about having a "good old brawl" on an otherwise boring Saturday night with these cowards any more (they might get as good as they give), it's simply venting whatever frustration or simple boredom by picking on someone so weak as not to present any danger. Sure there's hate involved but mostly these morons wouldn't even be able to say what it is they actually hate.
Feminists have been pretty quiet about migrants attacks on women,
Not in Germany from what I get to hear, they're simply not profiling all that much by ethnicity.
but can you imagine the outrage if a blond haired, Aryan looking German guy booted a burka-wearing migrant woman down those same stairs?
Oh, that happens too, together with worse things like petrol-bombing the quarters of asylum seekers' with those still inside.
 
I can't see blonde hair anywhere?...................~

She's wearing a hoodie that almost completely covers her hair. If you put the video on full screen, you can see that her hair color is a darkish blonde hue. She comes down the stairs with these guys following her, so I'd assume they saw her in the station prior to attacking her.
News reports that I found call her blond as well.
 
It's mostly an issue of being enormously understaffed. For years now Germany has been panting for a balanced budget (i.e. push new debts to zero and decrease those that exist) and has been doing great cuts in public spending. That of course extended to police forces on national, federal and city level. Now the powers that be have finally woken up but it's not as simple an issue as going out and hiring a bunch of new (additional) cops. To be cop in Germany, anyone pursuing that career has to go thru at least 30 months of training (police academy) so they can't really turn them out right now as fast as is needed.

Another thing is that crime rates are down more every year including for violence such as in this case. That has the savings fanatics in the councils reluctant in throwing any money that way. In most of the (other) cases where the perps were actually nicked, they were as diverse in origin as were the victims. A common and worryingly motivation being simply "doing it for fun". It ain't about having a "good old brawl" on an otherwise boring Saturday night with these cowards any more (they might get as good as they give), it's simply venting whatever frustration or simple boredom by picking on someone so weak as not to present any danger. Sure there's hate involved but mostly these morons wouldn't even be able to say what it is they actually hate.
Not in Germany from what I get to hear, they're simply not profiling all that much by ethnicity.Oh, that happens too, together with worse things like petrol-bombing the quarters of asylum seekers' with those still inside.

Of course you have a link to a woman in a Burka being kicked down the stairs? I don't think so.
 
It's mostly an issue of being enormously understaffed. For years now Germany has been panting for a balanced budget (i.e. push new debts to zero and decrease those that exist) and has been doing great cuts in public spending. That of course extended to police forces on national, federal and city level. Now the powers that be have finally woken up but it's not as simple an issue as going out and hiring a bunch of new (additional) cops. To be cop in Germany, anyone pursuing that career has to go thru at least 30 months of training (police academy) so they can't really turn them out right now as fast as is needed.

Well I never cease to be impressed by Germany's thoroughness. In the U.S. police are trained in a fraction of that time, and we often see the results.
I've heard that Germany requires people to be fully qualified at driving before they can receive a drivers license. I really like that idea. In my state, illegal immigrants are entitled to drive, and the roadways are idiot-obstacle-courses, where you're driving to try to survive.


Another thing is that crime rates are down more every year including for violence such as in this case. That has the savings fanatics in the councils reluctant in throwing any money that way. In most of the (other) cases where the perps were actually nicked, they were as diverse in origin as were the victims. A common and worryingly motivation being simply "doing it for fun". It ain't about having a "good old brawl" on an otherwise boring Saturday night with these cowards any more (they might get as good as they give), it's simply venting whatever frustration or simple boredom by picking on someone so weak as not to present any danger. Sure there's hate involved but mostly these morons wouldn't even be able to say what it is they actually hate.

They're probably on the dole, I'd bet a substantial sum on it. So they're probably mad about having no future in an economy that they're unfit for, as well as being seen as undesirable by the beautiful German women who they see on a daily basis in Berlin. That's my take.

Not in Germany from what I get to hear, they're simply not profiling all that much by ethnicity.Oh, that happens too, together with worse things like petrol-bombing the quarters of asylum seekers' with those still inside.

I've heard of attacks against migrants, and those are usually covered in depth by major media sources like the BBC, WashPo, New York Times, USA Today, etc. Those same companies only report migrant crime when they absolutely have to, like the Nov '15 Paris attacks.
It's this bias that keeps me posting in the Europe section of DP.
 
~......................................I've heard that Germany requires people to be fully qualified at driving before they can receive a drivers license I really like that idea.
Well, if you have no prior driving licence from another country. That's to say that Germans having reached the required age need apply for a driving licence which they won't get until showing that they've taken x hours of instructions in a "driving school". Even then they have to pass the test that's conducted by public authorities (traffic office) to which they won't even be admitted without showing the necessary hours of prior instruction.

Hard on kids that don't have a willing (and financially capable) Dad to pick up the tab since the hours of driving instruction cost a fortune.
In my state, illegal immigrants are entitled to drive, and the roadways are idiot-obstacle-courses, where you're driving to try to survive.
Happens in Germany too, provided the subject can show prior entitlement in (of) his home country. Read as already possessing a licence from there which then has to be swapped for the German equivalent.

The main problem I saw when working there were the "Easterners", the collapse of The Wall having fallen into that time. Since they all became "full fledged Germans" at reunification with just a few pen strokes, the licences they'd held until then became just as valid. Except they had absolutely no experience with driving something that had more than say 16 CV and a ceiling of 100 km/h (average time to accelerate to that that around 45 minutes, but only downhill and with a tailwind:mrgreen:).

Of course they flocked in droves to go visiting the West in their 4-wheeled plastic tubs and Westerners were as unaccustomed to this 3rd world influx as were the Easterners to roads with often no speed limits at all and prowled by BMWs, Mercs, Porsches and the whole other lot. Many a time I barely avoided flattening one of these plastic heaps from behind on account of it not leaving the fast lane quickly enough. The latter not by unwillingness but by sheer incapacity, seeing how it took about half an hour to overtake a slow truck.

Everybody on the Western side soon got the hang of it though, one could smell the exhaust of these contraptions long before one was close enough to (often too late) identify the obstacle (two stroke engines on foul fuel).

That said most Germans of migratory background (Muslim or other) are 2nd generation, meaning they have to go thru the testing procedure like everybody else.

Where the efficiency you cite is lacking, is that the driving licence issued after instruction and test was for life (not sure if that hasn't meanwhile been changed) so you'd get the odd 90 year old that had problems with just about any faculty, providing the far greater hazard to everyone and himself.

In that they do it better down here (Spain) in that you have to go for a check-up every ten years (physical, eye-sight, reflexes etc.) and every 5 years once you've passed 70.
They're probably on the dole, I'd bet a substantial sum on it.
Nothing substantial there but in a place like the one we're referring to here, they're probably on illegit means as well. Crime is high in Neukölln.
So they're probably mad about having no future in an economy that they're unfit for, as well as being seen as undesirable by the beautiful German women who they see on a daily basis in Berlin. That's my take.
They attack ugly people as well and even then not just women. It's vandalism at its purest and plenty of "blonde" youths are as prone to it. One could cite the football hooligans for instance but that would explode the thread.
I've heard of attacks against migrants, and those are usually covered in depth by major media sources like the BBC, WashPo, New York Times, USA Today, etc. Those same companies only report migrant crime when they absolutely have to, like the Nov '15 Paris attacks.
Thing is that most attacks on migrant living quarters are carefully conducted as not to cause deaths. When they do they're mostly accidental. So nothing like Paris Nov-15 (or Madrid trains and London trains, let alone WTC) has ever been instigated by the xenophobic camp. As such "material damage" barely makes it past the local press, same as a bruised mugging victim.
It's this bias that keeps me posting in the Europe section of DP.
Yeah, well keeping an open mind against falling into similar bias traps is always helpful then.;)
 
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The video is recent, and purportedly shows a blonde haired German woman being attacked by one migrant man while his friends look on and laugh. There aren't many English based versions of this story available online, so I'm asking any German members, or those who are fluent in German, to comment if they've heard about this and what the validity is.

Thoughts?
Comments?


a) how do we know they are migrants?

b) how do we know they are Muslim?

c) are you going to create a thead every time a white, native, Christian German assaults a woman?

d) why are a) and b) relevant even if true? Migrants, whether Christian or Muslim, black or white, are people; some are bad, most are good.
 
I'll volunteer
a) how do we know they are migrants?
We don't.
b) how do we know they are Muslim?
We don't.
c) are you going to create a thead every time a white, native, Christian German assaults a woman?
On the pretext that that would keep him too busy to do anything else at all, I'd surmise that he won't.
d) why are a) and b) relevant even if true? Migrants, whether Christian or Muslim, black or white, are people; some are bad, most are good.
criminals are criminals, that's what matters.
 
As the Berliner Morgenpost reports, there's been an arrest. By all accounts not of the perp but of one of his companions. Leading to the hope that the perp will be nabbed soon as well. Here's the link (in German).

Treppen-Treter: Fahndungserfolg nach Belohnung - Berlin - Aktuelle Nachrichten - Berliner Morgenpost

I've summarized the most pertinent part (that the report begins with), the rest deals with the fact that local businessmen had (have) offered a bounty on information leading to seizing of anyone involved, that this has caused some controversy with the police and concluding with the number of violent incidents in Berlin's transport system showing a downward trend (although "sexual assault" rose by 5 cases in 2015 to a total of overall 73).

Meanwhile other outlets have reported the "minor injury" the victim suffered as a broken arm. Just to point out that if I suffered a broken arm under any circumstances, my peed-offness would be anything but minor.:roll:
 
Quote Originally Posted by coldjoint View Post
Maybe she is an Islamophobe? If she wasn't, she is now.
Class act.That'd be the logical result.
Fact checker time:........................

The perp has apparently been identified as Bulgarian and appears to have scarpered back home.

Berlin police identify U-Bahn attacker, no arrest yet - The Local

I say "apparently" and "appears" because there is no official confirmation. Perps' religious affiliation is unknown.
 
Fact checker time:........................

The perp has apparently been identified as Bulgarian and appears to have scarpered back home.

Berlin police identify U-Bahn attacker, no arrest yet - The Local

I say "apparently" and "appears" because there is no official confirmation. Perps' religious affiliation is unknown.


Oh dear! Do we think she's still an "islamophobe" if he is actually Bulgarian? Well, whatever nationality and religion he is, he should be arrested and banged up (or down).
 
I am still waiting for the video of a woman in a burka being kicked down the stairs. Someone claimed it happened.

Oh, that happens too, together with worse things like petrol-bombing the quarters of asylum seekers' with those still inside.
 
Oh dear! Do we think she's still an "islamophobe" if he is actually Bulgarian? Well, whatever nationality and religion he is, he should be arrested and banged up (or down).
Absolutely!

Beyond which Bulgaria has around 8 pct of Muslims, so there's always hope that he was one of those. :mrgreen:
 
Video time?:popcorn2:
 
~ Beyond which Bulgaria has around 8 pct of Muslims, so there's always hope that he was one of those. :mrgreen:

Well, gotta keep all threads in the Europe forum about muslims haven't we? Nothing else ever happens here.
 
Well, gotta keep all threads in the Europe forum about muslims haven't we? Nothing else ever happens here.
Aw, at least one got hijacked against the OP's intention into discussing something intelligent like economics. No matter how often the author tries to derail it back.
 


The attacker is now identified as a Bulgarian national but he cannot be arrested because he had gone home. The attack has nothing to do with Muslims and Islamophobia and it was just a drunken Bulgarian male who was naughty.

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According to Berlin tabloid B.Z., police had not been able to apprehend the suspect because he had gone to his home country of Bulgaria. But prosecutor Martin Steltner told DPA of this report that: “We will investigate.”
Berlin police identify U-Bahn attacker, no arrest yet - The Local
 
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~ No matter how often the author tries to derail it back.

OK, there's a new challenge. Make all the Europe threads into intelligent, fact based discussions with some real content.....

How long do you think we'll last?
 
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