Cisero
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this young woman i met at the kroger a few months ago had been to montreal.
Wtf? You inserted yourself into a conversation where I was the one arguing that Sweden IS NOT a dangerous 3rd world ****hole, and you jumped in to tell me how wrong I am. Now that's not what you're saying? Jesus christ.
So back to the TOPIC I was addressing. Is your country a violent third world **** hole we should all be worried to visit? Or was I right that that's overblown nonsense?
Well good thing you've got your guns to protect you from all the violent muslim rape gangs.
Another little trick of yours - deploying the word 'or' to introduce a false dichotomy. And what on earth gives you the wholly mistaken idea that I possess a gun or guns?
Here is a fact for you. The efforts of migrants to turn Sweden into an Islamic hell-hole have so far only been successful in limited geographic areas.
studies show most of europe will be consumed by those horrible places in a matter of one year
"So" - what a nasty little weasel word! No, I'm saying nothing of the kind. Trying to put words into others' mouths is a cheap trick - don't you agree Rabid America? I record a fact. You resort to fact-free rants.
Wtf? You inserted yourself into a conversation where I was the one arguing that Sweden IS NOT a dangerous 3rd world ****hole, and you jumped in to tell me how wrong I am. Now that's not what you're saying? Jesus christ.
So back to the TOPIC I was addressing. Is your country a violent third world **** hole we should all be worried to visit? Or was I right that that's overblown nonsense?
Well good thing you've got your guns to protect you from all the violent muslim rape gangs.
Not only Islamist bastards, but buggerers to boot. They should be tried; if convicted, imprisoned; and after they have served their terms, sent back to the miserable sandpit they came from. Not that that is likely to happen in an overripe place like Sweden, where many people are probably navel-gazing about what they could have done to provoke these poor people to do such an awful thing. The western world should start giving alien savages the harsh treatment they deserve. We in the West are in a cultural war, and it is high time we went after these yellow curs, hammer and tongs.
Problem with rape statistics, is that rape statistics depends fully on reporting by victims in pretty much every country. It also depends on the police giving a damn. Add to that the differences in the law and of course social beliefs.
For example.. the Indian statistic is 1.8 per 100k, which is wayyyyy lower than the Swedish. Now.. do you believe that?
~There is no doubt Europe is well on its way to a Muslim majority population
What is worrisome is that they know that.
That's a bats**t retarded estimate of population demographics. How are 20 million muslims ever going to outnumber 400 million Europeans? In what world do you see this happening?
8% of the European population by 2030 as projected by Pew Research. Now, outside of Breibart, American Renaissance, Stormfront or even Frontpage - where do you get your crazy stats and ideas from?
~ At least that is what security experts say ~
Then maybe you shouldn't.:mrgreen:I get the feeling if I ask "which experts" and where you get your information from we will be off on yet another hyperbole gallop.
Then maybe you shouldn't.:mrgreen:
The "Gish" lurks behind every corner far more than the jihadists do.:lol:
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
As of the writing of this article, global Islamist terror death rates are 5,042 deaths per month, which would imply 60,504 deaths per year.
CONCLUSION
Standard and reliable Pew public opinion survey data available on 42 percent of the global Muslim population already come to the implicit conclusion that, on average, 17.38 percent of global Muslims openly express terror sympathies, measured by five different terror indicators. In this article, terror support rates were estimated indirectly for a number of additional countries, based on European Social Survey (ESS) data and the relationships that could be established between these ESS indicators and the aforementioned Pew studies. The implications and the cross-national correlations of the Arab Center for Research and Policy Studies survey on Islamic State support in eight Arab countries and territories were tested as well.
The Western world urgently needs to address not only the Islamist military challenge, but also to provide support to those forces and currents in the Arab and the Muslim world that are fighting this radicalism.
Another little trick of yours - deploying the word 'or' to introduce a false dichotomy. And what on earth gives you the wholly mistaken idea that I possess a gun or guns?
Here is a fact for you. The efforts of migrants to turn Sweden into an Islamic hell-hole have so far only been successful in limited geographic areas.
Oh my god, you're either really dumb or trolling. I wasn't talking to you with the gun comment, which is why I quoted someone else and not you. You inserted yourself into another conversation needlessly.
Alright, have it your way, Sweden is a violent **** hole that everyone should avoid because of how dangerous it is. It's practically downtown Mosul. I heavily apologize for defending your country, that must have really upset you. Now promptly **** off I'm done playing your childish little games.
Frontpage is along the lines of American Renaissance, Breibart and similar bed-wetting extremist sites thatching at the sight of muslims.
It also recognises that there are plenty of forces in the muslim world fighting the same extremism you keep pretending is widespread if not universal among all muslims. It does nothing to support your retarded position that islam itself is bent on nothing but extremism and wiping out western liberalism.
Read your own sources for chrissake!
Oh yeah, what about the bats**t claim that muslims are going to outnumber us? Where's your proof?
He's not Swedish, he's apparently a Brit living in Sweden, a foreigner in another country.
a) They already outnumber us in many parts of our territories, and more of them every year. Especially within large conurbations where medias and powers are concentrated, and among the youth.Oh yeah, what about the bats**t claim that muslims are going to outnumber us? Where's your proof?
a) They already outnumber us in many parts of our territories, and more of them every year. Especially within large conurbations where medias and powers are concentrated, and among the youth.
b) Will they outnumber us nationally? No one knows. Today they grow at 2% a year. Assuming it stays like this (actually it accelerates) and the rest of us maintain our population size (actually it decreases), it would take them 130 years to outnumber us.
More importantly, you should ask yourself why we let Islam progress in our countries while no one but Muslims want Islam to progress.
I see that you've now progressed from deluding yourself into speaking for all of France to deluding yourself into speaking for all of the Western world.More importantly, you should ask yourself why we let Islam progress in our countries while no one but Muslims want Islam to progress.
Dangerous ? Poor ?
Murder rate, source UNODC
US : 3.9/100'000
Belgium : 1.8/100'000
France : 1.2/100'000
Sweden : 0.9/100'000
Switzerland : 0.5/100'000
Rape statistics
Sweden : 63.5/100'000
US : 27.3/100'000
Norway : 19.2/100'000
Portugal : 4/100'000
Spain : 3.4'100'000
GDP per capita, source CIA
Norway : 68'400
Switzerland : 59'300
US : 56'300
Ireland : 54'300
Average wage
US : 58'714 $
Switzerland : 58'339 $
Norway : 50'908 $
Netherlands : 50'670 $
Sweden is going through a rape crisis. This does not mean the entirety of Europe is poor & dangerous.
Try seeing the world from different perspectives & avoid making sweeping baseless statements.
I seem to recall that the "rape" in this case consisted of "the perp" not having used a contraceptive, despite the women having demanded it (or so they claim).There is a 'rape crisis' in Sweden: in part real. But be careful. Many actions are classified as 'rape' here which would not even be crimes elsewhere.
Two radical feminists invited Assange to stay with them and then into their beds - in succession, not simutaneously. They subsequently colluded to accuse him of 'rape'. A prosecutor in Stockholm, where these events occurred, turned them down flat so they contacted a friend and fellow prominent radical feminist who was, and is, an assistant prosecutor in a city several hundred miles away. The rest is history, years and years of it.
There is a 'rape crisis' in Sweden: in part real. But be careful. Many actions are classified as 'rape' here which would not even be crimes elsewhere ~
It is widespread, and you and others keep saying "all" Muslims, not me. It doesn't have to be all. The peaceful Muslims you keep going on about will fall in line behind the violent ones, and you know it. If they are doing squat now do not expect them to do anything when weapons are involved. As far as the Muslims fighting against Islamists they amount to no more than a token sacrifice necessary to achieve Islams agenda. Not that I can prove that but Islams doctrine goes a long way to say that anything is permitted to advance Islam.
You are a dreamer to think anything is going to get better. It is only going to get worse until there are real policies in place to prevent Islams growing strength and population explosion in Europe. How Europe goes about doing that is another thing. The growing right wing will eventually settle this, one way or the other. It is clear present leaders are going to do nothing but make excuses and appease Islamists thinking they will stop increasing demands that come with the growing population. They are not going to stop.
And Brits living in other countries should be ignored? Especially the ones living in Spain?
Frontpage is along the lines of American Renaissance, Breibart and similar bed-wetting extremist sites thatching at the sight of muslims.
It also recognises that there are plenty of forces in the muslim world fighting the same extremism you keep pretending is widespread if not universal among all muslims. It does nothing to support your retarded position that islam itself is bent on nothing but extremism and wiping out western liberalism.
Read your own sources for chrissake!
Oh yeah, what about the bats**t claim that muslims are going to outnumber us? Where's your proof?
He's not Swedish, he's apparently a Brit living in Sweden, a foreigner in another country.
Well, depends on who says it, don't it? :mrgreen:Funny, when PeteEU and others point this out whenever some idiot claims a rape crisis, we get attacked for it.
on the somewhat baffling issue ofLike Auvergne, you contradict yourself within one post. Not worth bothering about replying.
.........baffling in nobody having said what's inferred, as a BTW I Do recall Sweden having mentioned something about dual nationality.And Brits living in other countries should be ignored? Especially the ones living in Spain?
Well, depends on who says it, don't it? :mrgreen:
~ add to your credibility. Does it not occur to you that you might come across as uncouth, crude and hysterical? Just like the uncivil and intensely rabid Alpaca.
~ Be that as it may: I am both Swedish and British and these days always travel on my Swedish passport.