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Muslims Urged to Kill 'Blasphemers' in U.K.

zyzygy said:
The Bible is a writing that contains threatening words against many persons (so at least a person). Do we agree on this point?
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Given that the only threatening words I can think of are cancelled a few pages later by Jesus, this accusation seems dubious.

Note that I am an atheist and I have little sympathy for Christianism or any religion. But Jesus instructed Christians to love me, Muhammad instructed them to kill me. Pretending they are equal only demonstrate your ignorance or intellectual fallacy.
 
Auvergnat said:
Given that the only threatening words I can think of are cancelled a few pages later by Jesus, this accusation seems dubious.

Note that I am an atheist and I have little sympathy for Christianism or any religion. But Jesus instructed Christians to love me, Muhammad instructed them to kill me. Pretending they are equal only demonstrate your ignorance or intellectual fallacy.
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Not cancelled...
 
zyzygy said:
When are all the Muslims in the UK going rise and kill all the unbelievers? They've been there since the 1960's.
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They don't need to. You don't pay attention. Any violence only increases the intimidation factor that have allowed them privileges the British citizen would be arrested for.
They have established a separate culture already. Plus their political influence in schools and other institutions. Jihad is not all violence. Jihad is aimed at destroying the host society anyway it can.
 
Auvergnat said:
Given that the only threatening words I can think of are cancelled a few pages later by Jesus, this accusation seems dubious.

Note that I am an atheist and I have little sympathy for Christianism or any religion. But Jesus instructed Christians to love me, Muhammad instructed them to kill me. Pretending they are equal only demonstrate your ignorance or intellectual fallacy.
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Jesus also is supposed to have said this although who took down the speech in shorthand is a matter of conjecture.


But whoever denies me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…
 
zyzygy said:
But whoever denies me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven. Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.…
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The first part denies heaven to those who rejects the Christ after knowing his truth. Fair enough I guess, although it reeks of the usual exclusivity/submission found in all religions, less in Christianism than others.

The second part is not an incitement to violence. It is a mere assessment that religious differences bring conflicts. To condemn this is to condemn human nature as found in religion, politics, and culture.
 
zyzygy said:
It says nothing about knowing his truth, whatever that is.
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In most of Christian theologies you have the freedom to repent on your sins after your death. By this time you should logically know the truth (at least this is what Christians believe).

But you should ask someone who knows more about theology than myself for this question.
 
Auvergnat said:
In most of Christian theologies you have the freedom to repent on your sins after your death. By this time you should logically know the truth (at least this is what Christians believe).

But you should ask someone who knows more about theology than myself for this question.
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I'm not much interested in fairy stories.
 
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