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Brussels police stabbed in 'terror attack' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-3

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gunner said:
Another day, another attack. Years of letting these ghettos form, is now reaping pay back for Belgium.

Brussels police stabbed in 'terror attack' - Brussels police stabbed in 'terror attack' - BBC News
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Actually it seems that the Muslim populations in every EU country that has old ones of two or more generations born in the country is developing this problem independent of the types of social program the societies have maintained.
 
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joG said:
Actually it seems that the Muslim populations in every EU country that has old ones of two or more generations born in the country is developing this problem independent of the types of social program the societies have maintained.
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It is the lack of 'real' integration. As an example, the Pakistani community in the UK still partake in first cousin marriage, or at the very least marriage from back 'home'.

First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children - Telegraph
 
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joG said:
Actually it seems that the Muslim populations in every EU country that has old ones of two or more generations born in the country is developing this problem independent of the types of social program the societies have maintained.
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It makes me wonder if the problems in these neighborhoods is more related to higher birth rates.
The traditional European families have fairly low numbers of children, While I think the Muslin families have more kids.
 
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gunner said:
It is the lack of 'real' integration.
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This is also happening in Muslim countries. Do you think Muslims are not integrated enough in Muslim countries?

The recent rise of Islamism all around the world is not primarily caused by social conditions (better than decades ago). It is first and foremost an identitary and cultural problem. Muslims dive into their communities because, for one, they do not identify themselves to their nations and for two because they reject the western model and prefer an Islamic community (b).


(a) They cannot identify themselves to France or Britain because we are led by an obviously different ethnic group than theirs, and an impure one to their eyes (joining us is a betrayal). They cannot identify to white westerners with different values and culture than theirs, especially when their foreign cultures are promoted while our cultures are rejected even by our own people. As for Muslim countries, they are usually artificial composites divided into rival ethnic groups and tribes, without a robust historic mortar.

(b) This is especially true since we have destroyed our models to instead propose a multiethnic liberal framework that cannot be an identity or a community. It is simply a legal canvas where the interests of individualist atoms are arbitrated by financial transactions. It is no wonder that Muslims prefer their tight communities with strong solidarity (interpersonal solidarity, not anonymous welfare), regardless of their many diseases. They only adhere to the western legal canvas to the extent that it supports greater freedom for themselves and Islam, in the hope that they will eventually replace it with something more fit to their taste.
 
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Auvergnat said:
This is also happening in Muslim countries. Do you think Muslims are not integrated enough in Muslim countries?

The recent rise of Islamism all around the world is not primarily caused by social conditions (better than decades ago). It is first and foremost an identitary and cultural problem. Muslims dive into their communities because, for one, they do not identify themselves to their nations and for two because they reject the western model and prefer an Islamic community (b).


(a) They cannot identify themselves to France or Britain because we are led by an obviously different ethnic group than theirs, and an impure one to their eyes (joining us is a betrayal). They cannot identify to white westerners with different values and culture than theirs, especially when their foreign cultures are promoted while our cultures are rejected even by our own people. As for Muslim countries, they are usually artificial composites divided into rival ethnic groups and tribes, without a robust historic mortar.

(b) This is especially true since we have destroyed our models to instead propose a multiethnic liberal framework that cannot be an identity or a community. It is simply a legal canvas where the interests of individualist atoms are arbitrated by financial transactions. It is no wonder that Muslims prefer their tight communities with strong solidarity (interpersonal solidarity, not anonymous welfare), regardless of their many diseases. They only adhere to the western legal canvas to the extent that it supports greater freedom for themselves and Islam, in the hope that they will eventually replace it with something more fit to their taste.
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Muslims can act as they please, in their country. Hence my comment for lack of integration, into our communities. The rest of your post, is not something new to me.
 
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