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The Media Against Jeremy Corbyn

Andalublue said:
Unsurprising. All mainstream media is fairly rabidly anti-socialist. Always has been. It was during the 80s and vastly over-rated the public support for the breakaway SDP. The positive aspect of modern politics is that mainstream broadcast and print media is becoming progressively less influential than social media in driving public opinion.

How much of the US mainstream media gave Bernie Sanders' policies a fair hearing? Mass media is a tool of corporate capitalism. Why would you expect them to behave against their own vested interest?
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Why is it when people reject extreme left wing ideas, it's always the fault of the media? A much simpler and more accurate explanation is that most people find extremism, whether or the left or the right, horse****. Sanders and Corbyn both fall into that category.
 
Wiggen said:
Why is it when people reject extreme left wing ideas, it's always the fault of the media?
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'People' have not rejected Corbyn. He's passed every electoral test he's faced so far. Labour have won every bi-election since Corbyn became leader. They had much better than expected local government election results and they have gained 500,000 new members in the past year. It's a measure of the brainwashing efforts of the British media that anyone could suggest that Corbyn is unelectable or has in any way been rejected.

Young people in the UK are incandescent with rage and resentment at the Tories and at the Brexit vote. They're not going to be voting Tory, UKIP or Blairite next election. If Corbyn's still leader, they'll be voting Labour.

A much simpler and more accurate explanation is that most people find extremism, whether or the left or the right, horse****.
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Not simple so much as naively simplistic equine faeces.
 
Wiggen said:
For good reason. He's an extreme left wing loon.
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You got that from the media. He's just not a rightist Blairite loon. His successes are played down, something like 70% of all articles written about him contain "errors" regarding his views.
 
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Andalublue said:
'People' have not rejected Corbyn. He's passed every electoral test he's faced so far. Labour have won every bi-election since Corbyn became leader. They had much better than expected local government election results and they have gained 500,000 new members in the past year. It's a measure of the brainwashing efforts of the British media that anyone could suggest that Corbyn is unelectable or has in any way been rejected.

Young people in the UK are incandescent with rage and resentment at the Tories and at the Brexit vote. They're not going to be voting Tory, UKIP or Blairite next election. If Corbyn's still leader, they'll be voting Labour.


Not simple so much as naively simplistic equine faeces.
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The anti-Corbyn media feast suggests some fear on the part of the 'establishment' that this is a feasible proposition. Prompted by this article...

Three-quarters of newspaper stories about Jeremy Corbyn fail to accurately report his views, LSE study finds | UK Politics | News | The Independent

...I went and looked at some of the reporting and op-ed pieces masquerading as news reporting and was shocked.

Corbyn can make more claim to being the anti-establishment non-Westminster bubble candidate than Farage ever could and I suspect that this is what worries the swill feeders.
 
Wiggen said:
Why is it when people reject extreme left wing ideas, it's always the fault of the media? A much simpler and more accurate explanation is that most people find extremism, whether or the left or the right, horse****. Sanders and Corbyn both fall into that category.
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Because there are people that get off on that crap...

Wiggen said:
...He's an extreme left wing loon.
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Wiggen said:
...he's an anti-Semitic left wing loon. As are all left wing loons.
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Wiggen said:
Why is it when people reject extreme left wing ideas, it's always the fault of the media? A much simpler and more accurate explanation is that most people find extremism, whether or the left or the right, horse****. Sanders and Corbyn both fall into that category.
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Did you get your happy ending?
 
I'm sure your post made sense to you. Maybe you and Jeremy can talk about it at the next anti-American demonstration you attend.
 
Manc Skipper said:
You got that from the media. He's just not a rightist Blairite loon. His successes are played down, something like 70% of all articles written about him contain "errors" regarding his views.
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Another favorite position of the extremists. Every time they're called out for their loony ideas, they were always 'misquoted'. Jeremy and Hamas and Hezbollah, Trump and his comments about women and Hispanics. If you want to believe that, be my guest.

But I get your point. Any Labourite who says anything favorable about the US is a 'rightist Blairite Loon'.
 
Andalublue said:
'People' have not rejected Corbyn. He's passed every electoral test he's faced so far. Labour have won every bi-election since Corbyn became leader. They had much better than expected local government election results and they have gained 500,000 new members in the past year. It's a measure of the brainwashing efforts of the British media that anyone could suggest that Corbyn is unelectable or has in any way been rejected.

Young people in the UK are incandescent with rage and resentment at the Tories and at the Brexit vote. They're not going to be voting Tory, UKIP or Blairite next election. If Corbyn's still leader, they'll be voting Labour.


Not simple so much as naively simplistic equine faeces.
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I'll say one thing about you confirmed Leftist hardliners - you surely do love your Messiahs.
 
The messiah complex was Blair's pulling Labour to the right, leaving Corbyn, unmoved, on the left of a party he used to be near the centre of. The people and the membership now vote for Corbyn in numbers, but the largely Blairite elite and their media masters such as Murdoch and Dacre hate him for it.

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" A new report, published by the London School of Economics and Political Science, has confirmed the media’s bias against Jeremy Corbyn, claiming the press have turned into an “attackdog” against the opposition leader. It also illustrates how Labour politicians, who have been plotting against Corbyn, have been corrupting the media, long before the current coup.

Entitled “Journalistic Representations of Jeremy Corbyn in the Mainstream Press: From Watchdog to Attackdog”, the scathing report from the Media and Communications Department at LSE, heavily criticises the way Corbyn has been treated in the mainstream press...."

This big player in the Labour coup has been hiding in plain sight the entire time (VIDEO) | The Canary
 
Manc Skipper said:
The messiah complex was Blair's pulling Labour to the right, leaving Corbyn, unmoved, on the left of a party he used to be near the centre of. The people and the membership now vote for Corbyn in numbers, but the largely Blairite elite and their media masters such as Murdoch and Dacre hate him for it.

corbyn-press.jpg


" A new report, published by the London School of Economics and Political Science, has confirmed the media’s bias against Jeremy Corbyn, claiming the press have turned into an “attackdog” against the opposition leader. It also illustrates how Labour politicians, who have been plotting against Corbyn, have been corrupting the media, long before the current coup.

Entitled “Journalistic Representations of Jeremy Corbyn in the Mainstream Press: From Watchdog to Attackdog”, the scathing report from the Media and Communications Department at LSE, heavily criticises the way Corbyn has been treated in the mainstream press...."

This big player in the Labour coup has been hiding in plain sight the entire time (VIDEO) | The Canary
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Being in the UK, you probably don't realize how much this sounds like The Trump position about the party elites and media elites conspiring against him. Look, Corbyn - in spite of his apparent affection for Hamas, Hezbollah, and Vladamir Putin and his undisguised contempt for Israel, the United States, and the like - is clearly on the Far Left end of the political spectrum. Why should I believe that's where most Britons are?

Labour flirted with this nonsense once before and had their heads handed to them in a General Election. It will happen again.
 
Wiggen said:
I'll say one thing about you confirmed Leftist hardliners - you surely do love your Messiahs.
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Well, I'll say one thing about you 'slightly liberals', you love nothing but the sound of your own self-righteousness.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The messiah complex was Blair's pulling Labour to the right, leaving Corbyn, unmoved, on the left of a party he used to be near the centre of. The people and the membership now vote for Corbyn in numbers, but the largely Blairite elite and their media masters such as Murdoch and Dacre hate him for it.

corbyn-press.jpg


" A new report, published by the London School of Economics and Political Science, has confirmed the media’s bias against Jeremy Corbyn, claiming the press have turned into an “attackdog” against the opposition leader. It also illustrates how Labour politicians, who have been plotting against Corbyn, have been corrupting the media, long before the current coup.

Entitled “Journalistic Representations of Jeremy Corbyn in the Mainstream Press: From Watchdog to Attackdog”, the scathing report from the Media and Communications Department at LSE, heavily criticises the way Corbyn has been treated in the mainstream press...."

This big player in the Labour coup has been hiding in plain sight the entire time (VIDEO) | The Canary
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Absolute bollocks. Corbyn has never been around the centre ground. He is as far left as they come....
 
gunner said:
Absolute bollocks. Corbyn has never been around the centre ground. He is as far left as they come....
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That's not what Manc claimed. He said: "The messiah complex was Blair's pulling Labour to the right, leaving Corbyn, unmoved, on the left of a party he used to be near the centre of." The centre ground of a left-wing party is always going to be significantly to the left of 'the centre ground', although I do think that Corbyn has always been on the party's left.
 
Andalublue said:
Well, I'll say one thing about you 'slightly liberals', you love nothing but the sound of your own self-righteousness.
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Once again, the thing the Far Left does best - Preach to the rest of us. You Euro-liberals tend to combine it with an arrogance when dealing with us poor simpletons in the US. Makes you especially charming. If only we'd turn everything over to you, eh?
 
Andalublue said:
That's not what Manc claimed. He said: "The messiah complex was Blair's pulling Labour to the right, leaving Corbyn, unmoved, on the left of a party he used to be near the centre of." The centre ground of a left-wing party is always going to be significantly to the left of 'the centre ground', although I do think that Corbyn has always been on the party's left.
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Which is what you love about him, right?
 
Wiggen said:
Which is what you love about him, right?
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I like the fact that he correctly analyses the political use that the right has made of austerity - turning private losses into public liabilities so that tax payers shoulder bankers' debts. I like that he recognises that Trident renewal owes nothing to maintaining Britain's defence capability but siphons massive amounts of public finds to private multinational arms corporations. I love the fact that he exposes the way in which modern capitalism polarises society and creates an ever-greater degree of social and economic inequality, that the rich are getting ever richer, the poor getting ever poorer. I'm sure all that analysis is anathema to a liberal shill of corporate capitalism.
 
Andalublue said:
I like the fact that he correctly analyses the political use that the right has made of austerity - turning private losses into public liabilities so that tax payers shoulder bankers' debts. I like that he recognises that Trident renewal owes nothing to maintaining Britain's defence capability but siphons massive amounts of public finds to private multinational arms corporations. I love the fact that he exposes the way in which modern capitalism polarises society and creates an ever-greater degree of social and economic inequality, that the rich are getting ever richer, the poor getting ever poorer. I'm sure all that analysis is anathema to a liberal shill of corporate capitalism.
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The trouble is Andy, bar his dislike of Trident or anything military for that matter, he does none of the above. He is one of the most incoherent leaders ever known. He has no appeal or ability to disseminate a message that appeals. You do a far better job at it :lol:
 
gunner said:
The trouble is Andy, bar his dislike of Trident or anything military for that matter, he does none of the above. He is one of the most incoherent leaders ever known. He has no appeal or ability to disseminate a message that appeals. You do a far better job at it :lol:
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You mean no style over substance. Got it.
 
Andalublue said:
I like the fact that he correctly analyses the political use that the right has made of austerity - turning private losses into public liabilities so that tax payers shoulder bankers' debts. I like that he recognises that Trident renewal owes nothing to maintaining Britain's defence capability but siphons massive amounts of public finds to private multinational arms corporations. I love the fact that he exposes the way in which modern capitalism polarises society and creates an ever-greater degree of social and economic inequality, that the rich are getting ever richer, the poor getting ever poorer. I'm sure all that analysis is anathema to a liberal shill of corporate capitalism.
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Keep the red flag flying, Andy. There's not a lot of you left, but what you lack in numbers you make up for in lunacy.
 
gunner said:
The trouble is Andy, bar his dislike of Trident or anything military for that matter, he does none of the above. He is one of the most incoherent leaders ever known. He has no appeal or ability to disseminate a message that appeals. You do a far better job at it :lol:
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His dislike of Trident, the military, and the US is based on one simple fact: All of those things irritate his good friend Vlad and his comrades. And one thing we know about Jeremy, he - like some of the posters here - love them some Putin.
 
William Rea said:
You mean no style over substance. Got it.
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Will, I'm not convinced he has substance, to be honest. It's very easy to be critical of the present ideologically driven shambles. But again, he has to lay out a workable response in a way that resonates with most of the electorate. Ones past is a reasonable indicator of the future, and what does Corbyn have? Moreover, the absolute amateur way the opposition operates is an embarrassment to the country. He is a laughing stock.
 
gunner said:
Will, I'm not convinced he has substance, to be honest. It's very easy to be critical of the present ideologically driven shambles. But again, he has to lay out a workable response in a way that resonates with most of the electorate. Ones past is a reasonable indicator of the future, and what does Corbyn have? Moreover, the absolute amateur way the opposition operates is an embarrassment to the country. He is a laughing stock.
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Interesting stat. More people have joined the Labour Party in the past month than the entire membership of the Tory party. Are they all headbanging Trots? As Paul Mason pointed out on the Today programme, the entire complement of Trotskyites in Britain is in the single thousands. It's a lovely piece of propaganda to claim that the 700,000 Labour membership is entirely made up of ludicrous extremists, but does anyone really believe that? Maybe you do Paul, but I doubt it.
 
Its entirely believable if they all share your outlook on the world and your economic and political philosophy.
 
Andalublue said:
Interesting stat. More people have joined the Labour Party in the past month than the entire membership of the Tory party. Are they all headbanging Trots? As Paul Mason pointed out on the Today programme, the entire complement of Trotskyites in Britain is in the single thousands. It's a lovely piece of propaganda to claim that the 700,000 Labour membership is entirely made up of ludicrous extremists, but does anyone really believe that? Maybe you do Paul, but I doubt it.
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I believe they're a mixed lot. He definitely appeals to Trots, Communist types, SWP and a lot of people who are pissed at the present shambles. Still, as you know full well Andy to run a country you need broad appeal. Has he got that? Will he bring across people like IC? I very much doubt it. Thus, he'll not win an election.
 
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