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There might be a few exploding heads on Thursday for mayor Sadiq Khan

Andalublue said:
I see that you've now decided to use dog whistles in your posts too. Way to go! :roll:
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And you've decided to plaster over what was actually said. As Sanman pointed out, if it was not wrong, why apologize?

I feel he was accustomed to the term, you feel it was new to him and just popped out from nowhere. Fair enough.
 
ChezC3 said:
London has fallen.

6 months -- UKIP's ranks will be double.
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Willing to bet a signature on that? And again you are talking about the party that wants to increase Pakistani immigration at the expense of eastern european Immigration (not that Khan is even an immigrant).
 
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Andalublue said:
But as a non-Muslim, non-Pakistani you really can? :shrug:
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As someone far more familiar to the term he used and ways it is used, yes I can. You however have singularly failed to define any other believable alternative for why he used it.
 
Nobody can choose their race, but they can certainly choose their beliefs - and should choose wisely.
 
Red_Dave said:
Willing to bet a signature on that? And again you are talking about the party that wants to increase Pakistani immigration at the expense of eastern european Immigration (not that Khan is even an immigrant).
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I tried to get him to elaborate on his post a while ago; you'll only get snarky responses and no honesty. He's not familiar with UKIP policy and how this relates to non EU immigration; it showed in how he turned to ad hominem rather than answer my question.
 
I've never heard of UKIP offering more immigration from Asia, or Pakistan in particular.
 
Red_Dave said:
Nigel Farage: Indian and Australian immigrants better than eastern Europeans | Politics | The Guardian doesnt mention Pakistan in particular here but he has in other interviews. But again this still leads us to the question of what Khans father coming from Pakistan has to do with UKIP or the EU
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Meh, he may be just saying that out of fear of being accused of racism, etc. I'm of Indian origin, btw.

Immigration isn't owed. UKIP has nothing to apologize for in demanding sovereign right to curtail immigration.

If a nation can't control its own borders, it effectively doesn't exist.
 
sanman said:
Meh, he may be just saying that out of fear of being accused of racism, etc. I'm of Indian origin, btw.

Immigration isn't owed. UKIP has nothing to apologize for in demanding sovereign right to curtail immigration.

If a nation can't control its own borders, it effectively doesn't exist.
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And again the EU has little bearing on this, given that it has no control over immigration from outside the EU, nor does this whole issue have any bearing whatsover on the topic of hand given that khan is not an immigrant.

Lastly try catching a plane or ferry to the UK and see the grilling you get from customs (even I´ve had one and im a UK citizen) and it will become pretty clear that the borders are far from uncontrolled.
 
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Red_Dave said:
And again the EU has little bearing on this, given that it has no control over immigration from outside the EU, nor does this whole issue have any bearing whatsover on the topic of hand given that khan is not an immigrant.
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EU has bearing on internal migration to Britain from other parts of EU which have less secure borders. Britain has long benefited from being an island, as this has helped its sovereignty. EU has undone everything since Henry VIII.
 
sanman said:
EU has bearing on internal migration to Britain from other parts of EU which have less secure borders. Britain has long benefited from being an island, as this has helped its sovereignty. EU has undone everything since Henry VIII.
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(Sigh) , and what bearing does this have on Khans parents coming to the UK before either he, or the EU, existed?
 
IIRC, Khan has a track record of always voting in favor of gay/LGBT rights and women rights.

If he really is a Muslim in anything but mere formality, he's certainly of the kind of Muslims we'd like to have here, and not among those who make trouble.


Reminds me of Cem Özdemir, chairman of the German Greens with Turkish roots: He's a perfect example for a 100% Westernized Muslim, including his showing up at gay pride parades, advocating the legalization of marihuana and, d'oh, supporting the hardcore-permissive Green platform well enough to win the votes of the party members.

If the largest share of Muslims in Europe were like him, there would exactly be zero point zero problem about anything at all.
 
sanman said:
EU has bearing on internal migration to Britain from other parts of EU which have less secure borders. Britain has long benefited from being an island, as this has helped its sovereignty. EU has undone everything since Henry VIII.
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Didn't know it was already around in his time.

:lamo
 
Red_Dave said:
(Sigh) , and what bearing does this have on Khans parents coming to the UK before either he, or the EU, existed?
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He's just the thin edge of the wedge - the inside man to bring the rest of the camel under the tent.

Look at how Obama has changed US policies away from traditional priorities. He was diverting America's formidable resources towards his own pet whims - while doing very little for America in return and allowing it to decline. That's why even the Lefties are howling for big change through Bernie - if the Left was happy with Obama's record, they'd all be backing his No.2, Hillary.


German guy said:
IIRC, Khan has a track record of always voting in favor of gay/LGBT rights and women rights.

If he really is a Muslim in anything but mere formality, he's certainly of the kind of Muslims we'd like to have here, and not among those who make trouble.


Reminds me of Cem Özdemir, chairman of the German Greens with Turkish roots: He's a perfect example for a 100% Westernized Muslim, including his showing up at gay pride parades, advocating the legalization of marihuana and, d'oh, supporting the hardcore-permissive Green platform well enough to win the votes of the party members.

If the largest share of Muslims in Europe were like him, there would exactly be zero point zero problem about anything at all.
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Big deal - as a cosmopolitan New Yorker, Trump is fine with gay marriage too. Whenever a WASP supports gay marriage, it hardly gets a yawn - but when a Muslim supports gay marriage, he gets treated like a superhero and given the key to the city.

Khan supports his Muslim ethnic community more than he supports LGBT rights. So the result will be that Muslim demographic and influence will grow in London, to the point where Muslims can discard Khan and overtly support those who are more representative of their Muslim beliefs. The result will be that LGBT rights will diminish after this phase-change in Muslim politics completes.

You think that you can use them as a stepping-stone to wider LGBT acceptance - but their intent is to use you as the stepping-stone to pave the way for themselves. They'll prevail instead of you, because they have the stronger demographics. You're just too naive to understand how things will play out.

Chagos said:
Didn't know it was already around in his time.

:lamo
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You didn't get it - I meant that in their short existence, EU has undone so much of Britain's hard-won sovereignty.
 
sanman said:
.......................You didn't get it...............................
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errh..........not at all.

The inadequate structure of your sentence was quite apparent.
 
Chagos said:
errh..........not at all.

The inadequate structure of your sentence was quite apparent.
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I fail to see what your Grammar-Nazi nitpickery is being stirred up over - unless you're just looking to digress.

The fact is that Britain's membership in EU has taken away its sovereignty, and even threatens its internal cohesion and integrity.
 
sanman said:
I fail to see what your Grammar-Nazi nitpickery is being stirred up over - unless you're just looking to digress.

The fact is that Britain's membership in EU has taken away its sovereignty, and even threatens its internal cohesion and integrity.
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Chagos has Melville beat when it comes to digression. And that isn't easy.
 
sanman said:
I fail to see what your Grammar-Nazi nitpickery is being stirred up over - unless you're just looking to digress.

The fact is that Britain's membership in EU has taken away its sovereignty, and even threatens its internal cohesion and integrity.
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I don't find any of your suppositions worthy of consideration so I had to amuse myself with something else.

Comical statements are amusing, no matter how little they were intended.

Never mind anyway.
 
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