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German Muslim Woman Killed for Refusing to Marry Her Cousin

Grand Mal said:
I can smell your fear.
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In the old days... when one was fearful... one survived. Those that weren't left the gene pool.

And after 30,000 terror attacks by Muslims since 911... I think we can safely proclaim we have a deadly and deadly serious problem on our hands.

Whether Stockholm, Malmö, Berlin, Cologne, Ruhr Pot, Paris, London... or anywhere... Muslims have proven to be problematic. It's not Buddhists, Hindu's, Athiests, Greenies, Christians, Pagans, Vegans or Satanists... it is Muslims that have proven to be a massive problem.

I wish it was not so... but it is a problem, and wishing it away only makes things worse... as Obama just might be learning.
 
For shame.
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Oooooo, the shame is burning my toes as we speak!

But hold on... You're not connecting with the explicit point I made, twice.

It's immaterial whether the court guy was able to summon his Muslims. (That's capitalised, by the way.) Read again, yourself.
 
It's not Buddhists, Hindu's, Athiests, Greenies, Christians, Pagans, Vegans or Satanists... it is Muslims that have proven to be a massive problem.
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There's your nub of the whole problem. Hey, Left, come and see in just a few words the problem! But you won't, hence the shriekiest tantrums should anybody dare suggest we investigate Muslim text for the background.

Why make waves, when we can all blame...... the Guess Whos! As Hitler did!
 
Now said:
Oooooo, the shame is burning my toes as we speak!

But hold on... You're not connecting with the explicit point I made, twice.

It's immaterial whether the court guy was able to summon his Muslims. (That's capitalised, by the way.) Read again, yourself.
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OK, I accept you just refuse to see the point.

SO - explain then why he made a complaint to the council?




I won't bother to ask why the council investigated because if you really are British and live here, you will know that you can complain to your local council and they have to investigate. My neighbour tried having my young daughter taken off us by social services when he complained to the council that a young baby cried - so was that "political correctness" or a malicious complaint?
 
The point you made was parallel to mine, never touching. So yours never came into it.

And for my point, it was immaterial why he complained. And yes, the council did have to investigate, as councils do.

But in this case the point was that Muslims get offended by bacon - which they do, as bacon is anti-Islamic. Muslims have been known not to serve bacon in shops or even wash their hands in hospitals, which is also anti-Islamic, if alcohol is involved.

That the case went to court on Islamic grounds is pertinent to the argument, whether Muslims in the cafe themselves objected. Islam was the point, not Muslims.
 
Now said:
The point you made was parallel to mine, never touching. So yours never came into it.

And for my point, it was immaterial why he complained..
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Of course it would be immaterial for you because it would completely undermine that islam is being forced on us.

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And yes, the council did have to investigate, as councils do..
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Thank you.

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But in this case the point was that Muslims get offended by bacon - which they do, as bacon is anti-Islamic. Muslims have been known not to serve bacon in shops or even wash their hands in hospitals, which is also anti-Islamic, if alcohol is involved...
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Yet no muslims complained about bacon in the café, muslims happily went to the café, met with the muslim who was cooking bacon so again - your point is invalid but that matters not as you cannot accept that.

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That the case went to court on Islamic grounds is pertinent to the argument, whether Muslims in the cafe themselves objected. Islam was the point, not Muslims.
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So anything to do with muslims and islam is part of the argument that islam is being forced on us. My, you are a fearful fellow.
 
Of course it would be immaterial for you because it would completely undermine that islam is being forced on us.
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Remind us what your point was. I think it got lost in the clatter of your sniping.



Yet no muslims complained about bacon in the café, muslims happily went to the café, met with the muslim who was cooking bacon so again - your point is invalid but that matters not as you cannot accept that.
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I made no secret that in other cases of Islamisation, others can do the foisting, even where immediate Muslims wouldn't care. You seem to be irked, conversely, that your point was irrelevant to the one I made, yet you try to crowbar it in.



So anything to do with muslims and islam is part of the argument that islam is being forced on us. My, you are a fearful fellow.
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Ah ah! Small minds discuss people, as your tagline says! And not anything to do with Muslims or Islam. Just pertinent stuff.
 
truthatallcost said:
You realize how easily I could claim that you're a helluva lot more fearful of this than me?
After all, how did you come to live on an island off the coast of Canada? What's the population there? 1,000 people?
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A little less, actually, in winter.
I love it. 21 acres of firs, alders and stinging nettles. I grew up near Vancouver, place called Surrey, that was rural when I was kid and the city came to us like the tide coming in. You don't have enough money to pay me to go back.
 
truthatallcost said:
A Kurdish father whose daughter was shot dead at a wedding in Germany has posted a picture of her lying in a pool of blood on his Facebook page and is demanding justice.

He wrote that his beloved 21-year-old daughter Shilan had rejected an arranged marriage to her cousin and had paid for it with her life during a wedding ceremony in Hanover, Germany.

The father, named as Ghazi H., 50, posted the harrowing image of his daughter on Facebook as police continued to hunt for the cousin.

He said that his Kurdish family had fled Iraq heading to Germany when his daughter was just three, and he said she had grown up as a self-confident young woman with German citizenship, studying property management at college in Hanover.

Kurdish woman shot dead at wedding in Germany after refusing to marry her cousin | Daily Mail Online
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Culture not religion however, I remember saying this some time back...

William Rea said:
The Kurdish armed forces are the solution to a greater autonomous Kurdish homeland NOT the problems in Syria and Iraq. Personally, I would not train or arm the Kurds; they are not as tame as they might appear.
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Serenity said:
That's terribly sad. Poor girl. RIP.

It would appear this family fled Iraq 18 years ago when Kurds were being persecuted by Saddam Hussein. Her immediate family were against an arranged marriage and her Dad stopped it. It sounds very much like this young lady and her family have integrated very well and do not support such idiotic traditions.

Not sure why the article has the eyes covered of the suspect, refuses to name the full name of the victim, her father or those involved and it's only being reported by sites I wouldn't generally click on. How the hell do you find a suspect with the aid of the public assistance if you don't know what he looks like. Quite bizzare really. Perhaps some of the more reputable sites will pick it up.
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It's customary (even with the Fail) not to publish "Wanted" posters.

Even where there appears little doubt as to "whondunit", the principle of "innocent until found guilty" reigns. One can be sure that the German cops have that photo without the blank-out and most certainly the name.

Both victim and suspect are incidentally Yazidi. That would make one hope that the suspect won't hightail it for Iraq right now.

The dastardly deed was incidentally followed by a regular punch-up between some of the guests resulting in 5 injured.
 
Now said:
~ lost in the clatter of your sniping ~ Ah ah! Small minds discuss people, as your tagline says!
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You lost the debate so resort to the oldest tactic in the book. I accept your confession of defeat.
 
No, it's called projection, as someone else said.

You never did finish the argument, so look for an exit door.
 
Chagos said:
There was no debate :mrgreen:
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Had to call it something. I'm done here now, nothing more to see - muslims are damned if they do, damned if they don't and now damned by others surreptitious actions for personal purposes.

As you say, there was no debate - they are guilty for being muslims.
 
If I may quote the Prime Minister, calm down dear.

All was explained, all laid to bed.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
..............As you say, there was no debate - they are guilty for being muslims.
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Yeah, unrequited love (or frustrated power dreams or whatever) leading to the killing of the person doing the actual rejection has to be something.

I could, were I at all to bother with such crap, pull numerous cases in Germany alone (seeing that's where this tragedy happened), where husbands left by their wives (atheists, Christians, Pastafarians, whatever) finally resorted to killing them.

Not the rule, thankfully, yet some can't handle the blow to their self esteem in any sane manner.

Of course that would get the usual responses of such examples having nothing to do with the prevailing culture, unlike in cases such as here where they're all followers of "Mahound". Well I'd even agree with the first bit, yet how refusing the same critical thinking to the other camp can serve to camouflage the actual agenda of such stupidity is anybody's guess though.

But yeah, where logic is held as cheap there can be no debate.
 
shrubnose said:
Anyone who blames all Muslims for something that some of them do is a hate-filled bigot.
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And WHAT does this have to do with my post?
I was responding to the First response harassment by Grand Mal.
Second, I made the perfectly legitimate point that HE was just pointing out the [Inordinate] Violence by Muslim immigrants, like Dozens of other strings.
You, of course, turn this into the usual DISHONEST/Goofy strawman "All." Yes the most common strawman of the 20th Century.. "[You said] All Muslim are terrorists."
 
I wouldn't rise to it, Mbig. Some people just live to engineer situations to throw insults around. Looks it from here.
 
Winchester said:
Umm, who arranged for the marriage? Isn't the father the one who normally does these things?
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So the tragedy is the woman was married off by her father and not that the woman was murdered by someone in the family of the groom?
 
Moot said:
Couldn't that same logic of "assimilation" be used for anyone who murders another human being? If murder for whatever reason is not a cultural norm or accepted in any western society, then could it be said that all murderers fail miserably at assimilation in civil society as well?
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Of course, this is a common thing that I hear often; that murder exists in Western societies, therefore we shouldn't give any special attention to newcomers from the Muslim world who happen to kill in the west.

Let me remind you that this man killed his cousin, because she refused to marry him.

Incestuous marriages are not common in the west, yet they are common in some Muslim countries. This problem is common in the UK now:
"Although British parents of Pakistani origin account for 3.4 per cent of all births nationwide, they also account for around 30 per cent of children born with recessive gene disorders.
While only 15 per cent of the population in Bradford is of Pakistani origin, an estimated 55 per cent are married to their first cousins."
Warning over births to first cousin marriages - Telegraph
 
shrubnose said:
You're a hate-filled bigot that I'm not going to waste time on.

Take a long walk on a short pier.

:lol:
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Ah, here comes the name calling! Bravo, whenever a liberal finds himself in a position of check mate, his only recourse is to name-call and run away from the discussion.
 
Of course, this is a common thing that I hear often; that murder exists in Western societies, therefore we shouldn't give any special attention to newcomers from the Muslim world who happen to kill in the west.
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And of course, when sexual assault enters the picture, the Labour Party are the masters of moral justification.

Jess Phillips, Labour woman for Birmingham Yardley, said we may as well have our fair share of the migrant lucky dip because - and this is a cracker - Birmingham city centre on a Saturday night is no worse than what goes on in Germany anyway!

And she also said we should stay in the EU because it helps her that her brother lives in France!


No wonder the bosses of these wannabe psychopaths now want the legalisation of pot! It would just complete the lunatic universe of their dreams!
 
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