Babar Ahmad admits naivete in supporting Taliban cause

A British man jailed over a website considered a key moment in the birth of online jihadist propaganda said he had been "naive" to support the Taliban.
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On the rise of the so-called Islamic State group, Ahmad said: "From what I've heard, getting people, getting journalists and cutting their heads off on TV, I don't recognise this. This is alien to me. Jihad is something to be an Islamic history and heritage and beliefs. It's a noble act that's meant to protect and defend innocent people from acts of terror.
"And when terror and misery is brought to people under the label of jihad, it's not jihad, it's God knows what it is but no god tolerates terror and misery being brought to innocent people on behalf of some sort of cause." Link.

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Bravo Babar Ahmad, I hope the Quilliam Foundation contacts him and supports getting his message out. It's also good that Ahmad admitted his crimes even though he says he was naive in supporting the extremist jihad cause.

Many that commit crimes suddenly have an epiphany once arrested and incarcerated thats pretty much business as usual.

lpast said:

Many that commit crimes suddenly have an epiphany once arrested and incarcerated thats pretty much business as usual.

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Not always - a lot of those who have been involved in the Syria situation and arrested have become poster boys for ISIS or disappeared off to Syria. Siddartha Dhar being a prime example.

Infinite Chaos said:

Bravo Babar Ahmad, I hope the Quilliam Foundation contacts him and supports getting his message out. It's also good that Ahmad admitted his crimes even though he says he was naive in supporting the extremist jihad cause.

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I don't know if I believe him IC, but I do support getting his message out if he stands by it. Social Media and other media outlets have a lot to answer for when it comes to this type of propoganda. They need to take more control and shut down this type of activity rather than ignore it. Look at IS for just one example. Their PR strategy has been effective and elaborate and it’s been a key part of their massive rise to global infamy and gaining support from the naive and stupid.

I was super pissed with 60 minute Australia last Sunday night. They aired a story titled "Preacher of Hate." It was about a radicalised online recruiter named Abu Haleema who lives in London and who spreads his online message of hate and propoganda to a wide audience. They interviewed him fairly extensively and his hateful views were promoted by giving him 25 minutes of prime air time here. He should never have been given a platform to begin with.

Serenity said:

~ It was about a radicalised online recruiter named Abu Haleema who lives in London and who spreads his online message of hate and propoganda to a wide audience ~

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Haleema still walks the streets because he has learned from Anjem Choudary how to dance on the fine borderline of the law. Having watched Babar Ahmad and Haleema on two different documentaries I am fairly confident in Ahmad's interview.

Time alone will tell though.

Lovely Babar's 'epiphany' is nothing but utter bawlderdash.

Jihad is what terrorists make it to be. Koran 4:74 makes this plain. See for yourself.

All this guy is doing is being a kind of Trojan Horse, along with all those others on the bus billboards, advertising that 'My jihad is to be all sweet and fluffy'.


More of the same.

Infinite Chaos said:

Not always - a lot of those who have been involved in the Syria situation and arrested have become poster boys for ISIS or disappeared off to Syria. Siddartha Dhar being a prime example.

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There was a very recent story, about a renounced former British jihad supporter who was arrested for being not so reformed.


"Hassan Butt, who claimed to renounce extremism, suspected of defrauding buyers on auction website to fund terrorism"

Former Islamic extremist arrested on suspicion of £1m eBay scam | UK news | The Guardian

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Lovely Babar's 'epiphany' is nothing but utter bawlderdash.

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Proof?

I've read about many former terrorists who changed, not just muslims so I'd be curious why you are sure he is lying.

I explained how I came to the conclusion. People do change but I just don't believe this based on what he said and how.

So whatever he does, he's damned because of his religion. :roll:

If you believe in a hate creed, then it will undermine you.

And the whole whitewash narrative, of jihad never meaning what Muslims have proved it to mean in the many thousands of terror attacks since 9/11, plus the many more instances of supremacist cultural demands since the Satanic Verses violent tantrum, only shows this. (Seems just a dim memory now, doesn't it!)


Which is probably why Tessa Jowell knew that an inquiry into 7/7 would upset the Muslims, hence her announcement to that it would be too expensive to need. (Labour never care much for expense!) Or that Pew found 75% of Muslims worldwide, even, support death for becoming lapsed Muslims!

There's all that baggage and more to explain!