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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    That it is currently increasing in mass a lot does not mean that it is always doing so.

    Given that Greenland is a high "land" area where it will only snows when the storms/weather fronts manage to push humid air over the mountains, it is perfectly reasonable that this is marginal in terms of a slight change in the path or temperature of the air, meanig that the snowfall in central Greenland becomes almost zero.

    The dynamics of the rate of flow of glaciers out of the place is determined by a small number of factors;

    1, The depth of the the ice.

    2, The viscosity, or the degree of solidity, of the ice. The degree of movement over time vs the force on ice.

    3, The shape of the valleys which the ice flows down.

    Only number 1 is variable.

    When the cliamte makes it snow a lot on Greenland it grows upawrds. When the climate cools the snow stops. Just does not happen. The flow of the glaciers continues. The height of Greenland reduces.....

    Or it might be that Greenland will continue to grow upwards untill it is so tall that it is above the point where snow will fall.

    The idea that nature is in any sort of balance is just plain wrong. Balance is just you have not looked long enough.
    Do you expect anyone to believe that there is at least 890 billion more metric tons of ice in Greenland this year than there was last year?

    I agree that a claim of a loss of 260 billion metric tons of ice in one year warrants investigation. That is an almost unbelievable amount of ice. If this number is accurate, then I would imagine that most of it is due to calving glaciers.

    But suggesting that there was an increase of 840 billion metric tons of ice is laughable. Where do you get this nonsense?

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    What ever strawman position you want me to take is not going to happen.
    If you're gonna do it, at least do it right.

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    The Borglum river in Northern Greenland is supposedly the largest river.

    You’d think a guy who thinks he knows more than the actual scientists who study this for a living would have known that.
    Got a link? And is that the flow rate or length under the ice?

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Got a link? And is that the flow rate or length under the ice?
    Wait.

    You’re the expert on Greenland rivers and *I* need to provide the link?

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Who to believe? NASA or Susan from Facebook?

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    Do you expect anyone to believe that there is at least 890 billion more metric tons of ice in Greenland this year than there was last year?

    I agree that a claim of a loss of 260 billion metric tons of ice in one year warrants investigation. That is an almost unbelievable amount of ice. If this number is accurate, then I would imagine that most of it is due to calving glaciers.

    But suggesting that there was an increase of 840 billion metric tons of ice is laughable. Where do you get this nonsense?

    You see that 260Gt/yr is a lot.

    Yeah.

    1150gt/yr is the flow rate of the Mississippi for 2 months 13 times.

    That is the break even point.

    Which number are you challenging? 540mm/yr snow fall w.e.?

    The area of Greenland? 2.2million square km?

    The outflow rate? Watson at 8Gt/yr?

    So what are you challenging?

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Wait.

    You’re the expert on Greenland rivers and *I* need to provide the link?

    LOL
    You make a cliam. Back it up.

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaughtInThe View Post
    Who to believe? NASA or Susan from Facebook?
    Or look at the numbers for yourself?

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    Re: Greenland is gaining ice mass no matter what NASA says.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post

    You see that 260Gt/yr is a lot.

    Yeah.

    1150gt/yr is the flow rate of the Mississippi for 2 months 13 times.

    That is the break even point.

    Which number are you challenging? 540mm/yr snow fall w.e.?

    The area of Greenland? 2.2million square km?

    The outflow rate? Watson at 8Gt/yr?

    So what are you challenging?
    I challenge the claim that there was 840Gt more ice in Greenland in 2019 than there was at the same time in 2018.

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