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[W27]***Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Oh, God. This hopeless ****ing idiocy and dishonesty again?



People need to appear in person at various events. To do that, they need to get there. I'm sure you'd all love it if they disappeared from the face of the Earth for a few months each way so that they could take sailboat followed by horse and buggy, but they aren't nearly as stupid as they'd need to be to listen to your dumb bull****.

They're not going to silence themselves by not traveling to appear simply because someone is dishonest in an extremely stupid direction on the internet.

Mr. Person:

Should Prince Chales have taken an alternate form of transportation with a smaller carbon-footprint? Why couldn't the Prince of Wales and his entourage have taken a train from London to Switzerland? Why the need for a great big jet? It's not like Charles is overly busy. If Greta Thunberg can find the time to sail for three weeks to get to where she needs to be, couldn't Charles take half a day to train to Davos?

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

I heard Ivanka was there.

Yes she was. So? I haven't heard her advocate that us peasants should ride bicycles while giving the super rich more of their money thru taxes.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

It is not at all unreasonable to ask what justification they have for contributing to the problem or to hold activists to the standards they set for others. They aren’t adding any value to justify contributing to the problem many orders of magnitude above the average person and they deserve to be criticized for that. Nothing about the “rules as they are” mandates entirely unnecessary travel by private plane.

We ALL use fossil fuels...it's unavoidable...for now. But we ALL need to reduce our carbon footprints...not just the elite and wealthy. Doing something is better than doing nothing...and no one should have to justify themselves for trying to doing something. The elite that care try to bring awareness and put their time and money in projects and education to help mitigate the destruction caused by global warming. So before you judge others...you should ask yourself, what are you doing to reduce your carbon footprint? If you're doing nothing, then you're the hypocrite for judging others who are doing something.
 
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We ALL use fossil fuels...it's unavoidable...for now. But we ALL need to reduce our carbon footprints...not just the elite and wealthy. Doing something is better than doing nothing...and no one should have to justify themselves for trying to doing something. The elite that care try to bring awareness and put their time and money in projects and education to help mitigate the destruction caused by global warming. So before you judge others...you should ask yourself, what are you doing to reduce your carbon footprint? If you're doing nothing, then you're the hypocrite for judging others who are doing something.

Fossil fuels have been and continue to be a great boon for humankind. I am grateful and proud to use them.

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Fossil fuels have been and continue to be a great boon for humankind. I am grateful and proud to use them.

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That's fine...but it's killing the planet. Pride comes before the fall.

Fossil fuel will always be part of the equation....but we can and should do things to reduce our dependency on it.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

That's fine...but it's killing the planet. Pride comes before the fall.

Fossil fuel will always be part of the equation....but we can and should do things to reduce our dependency on it.

That's the point. They're not killing the planet.
 
Prince Charles in Davos: We need a new economic model or the planet will burn - CNN

Prince Charles flies to Davos on a jet emitting six tonnes of carbon to launch sustainable project | Daily Mail Online

Yup, he flies into the conference on a chartered jet, then demands that everyone pay more money and change their lifestyle to "save" the planet. You cant get any more hypocritical than this. :lamo

Haven't you heard--individual decisions don't affect carbon? It is only government actions that matter now.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

LOL the stalking is right on cue again!

You love showing your hypocrisy dont you? Claiming that the planet needs to be saved, yet spewing CO2 into the air by private plane is perfectly okay in your books even though thats the very thing you label as "evil."

Youve never heard of the telephone or remote conferencing, have you?

Please keep showing more of your ignorance and two-faced hypocrisy! I love it. :lol:

He rolls that way.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Oh, God. This hopeless ****ing idiocy and dishonesty again?



People need to appear in person at various events. To do that, they need to get there. I'm sure you'd all love it if they disappeared from the face of the Earth for a few months each way so that they could take sailboat followed by horse and buggy, but they aren't nearly as stupid as they'd need to be to listen to your dumb bull****.

They're not going to silence themselves by not traveling to appear simply because someone is dishonest in an extremely stupid direction on the internet.

Moochelle "big hips" Obama needed to have a 2nd jet for her Hawaii vacation?

You're dishonest if anyone is.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Yes she was. So? I haven't heard her advocate that us peasants should ride bicycles while giving the super rich more of their money thru taxes.

The previous poster suggested Prince Charles had no business there. Neither did Ivanka. Do you only object to those who make statements you disagree with?

To her (very limited) credit, Ivanka refused to pile on Greta. She also refrained from defending her, alas. It appears Ivanka was present as decoration.
 
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Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

And private jets are the most energy efficient way to travel?

I understand...royalty can't be expect to travel, GASP...commercial!

Or Skype. Zero emissions. Same result.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Oh, God. This hopeless ****ing idiocy and dishonesty again?



People need to appear in person at various events. To do that, they need to get there. I'm sure you'd all love it if they disappeared from the face of the Earth for a few months each way so that they could take sailboat followed by horse and buggy, but they aren't nearly as stupid as they'd need to be to listen to your dumb bull****.

They're not going to silence themselves by not traveling to appear simply because someone is dishonest in an extremely stupid direction on the internet.

Why do they need to appear?

Fact is private is, private jet service is the least efficient and most environmentally costly way to travel.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

The Prince, Leo, and Al all pay for carbon offsets and are, in fact, "walking the walk".

Unfortunately, all the denialists who want to attack these people are willfully ignorant of facts like this.

Carbon offsets do not reduce emissions. Flying commercial or teleconferencing does.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Yes, it's okay to use fossil fuels if there isn't an alternative. Have they invented a low emission electric jet, yet?

The thing is, there are alternatives.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

I didn't say it was okay. I said if there isn't an alternative invented yet. One person not taking a jet will not stop global warming. It would take the political will of nations all over the world and the only way to do that is to educate and bring awareness to the leaders and the people.

But yet, me crushing my big V 8 truck and pumping up the tires on my bicycle somehow will.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Carbon offsets do not reduce emissions. Flying commercial or teleconferencing does.

Yeah... but if all emissions could be offset then there would be no increase in CO2.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

We ALL use fossil fuels...it's unavoidable...for now. But we ALL need to reduce our carbon footprints...not just the elite and wealthy. Doing something is better than doing nothing...and no one should have to justify themselves for trying to doing something. The elite that care try to bring awareness and put their time and money in projects and education to help mitigate the destruction caused by global warming. So before you judge others...you should ask yourself, what are you doing to reduce your carbon footprint? If you're doing nothing, then you're the hypocrite for judging others who are doing something.

But the elite and wealthy are telling me I must reduce mine first. I reject that notion.

My carbon footprint is probably less than 10% of the footprint of an hours flight in a private jet.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

But yet, me crushing my big V 8 truck and pumping up the tires on my bicycle somehow will.

Using a bicycle is a good start...so is walking. Doing all your errands in one trip, might help save gas. Recycling, composting, energy saving appliances, ride sharing, wind energy, solar power, natural gas, plant trees, eat less meat, buy natural fiber clothes, don't use weed killers....are just a few of the many things consumers can do to reduce their carbon footprint.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

The thing is, there are alternatives.

But still unaffordable for many consumers.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

But the elite and wealthy are telling me I must reduce mine first. I reject that notion.

My carbon footprint is probably less than 10% of the footprint of an hours flight in a private jet.

It's not about the elites...it's about saving the planet.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

It's not about the elites...it's about saving the planet.

Then let the elites lead by example.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Then let the elites lead by example.

Let each of us lead by example. It's called "individual responsibility."
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

Let each of us lead by example. It's called "individual responsibility."

You, and the elites first.
 
Re: Prince Charles Flies into Davos, then Demands Green Taxes to Fight climate change

You, and the elites first.

The people have to go first...figuratively speaking. lol
 
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