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2019 2nd Hottest Year On Record

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Visbek said:
Surprise! Well, not really. 2019 was the second hottest year on record, and the 2010s was the single hottest decade on record. Copernicus confirmed it earlier today. I am confident NOAA, Hadley etc will concur soon.

2019 Was Second Hottest Year on Record - The New York Times

‘Alarming Signs’ As 2019 Officially World’s Second-Warmest Year On Record
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Well, I do believe that there are some interesting climate trends I've personally observed over the years without support of this data.

Still, the key words are "On Record."

Detailed records didn't begin until the 1850's. About 150 years or so ago.

The Earth has been around for 4,500,000,000 years.

Thus "alarming signs" is relative, as I am sure there have been quite a few "alarming trends" over the millennia. ;)
 
Captain Adverse said:
But the key words are "On Record."
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Sigh

I knew that particular denier nonsense would be coming.

Climate scientists have NEVER said “hottest in all of Earth’s history.” And yes, “hottest on record” it is relevant, because it is a continuation of a trend that is over 100+ years now, and it’s a result of human activity.
 
Visbek said:
Sigh

I knew that particular denier nonsense would be coming.

Climate scientists have NEVER said “hottest in all of Earth’s history.” And yes, “hottest on record” it is relevant, because it is a continuation of a trend that is over 100+ years now, and it’s a result of human activity.
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It's a trend that is over hundreds of years. How is that possible? CO2 from human activity? Not bloody likely. Let me correct that, not ****ing possible.
It's hardly nonsense to mention climate records of 150 years is ridiculous considering it's such a short period of time and you could have chosen many years over the last 300 years or so to claim a broken temperature record.

BTW, wanna continue the discussion about IPCC problems?
You disappeared after I showed you the comments from the IAC questionnaire.
 
I can see these coming too


but but but .... 2016 was hotter, so we must be cooling ... and I saw snow on TV ...
 
Slavister said:
I can see these coming too


but but but .... 2016 was hotter, so we must be cooling ... and I saw snow on TV ...
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If you don't think I bet you see lots of things that aren't true.
The significance of a 150 year record of earth warming is only one of them.
 
Visbek said:
Surprise! Well, not really. 2019 was the second hottest year on record, and the 2010s was the single hottest decade on record. Copernicus confirmed it earlier today. I am confident NOAA, Hadley etc will concur soon.

2019 Was Second Hottest Year on Record - The New York Times

‘Alarming Signs’ As 2019 Officially World’s Second-Warmest Year On Record
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Nope. Third.

[h=2]UAH Global Temperature Update for December 2019: +0.56 deg. C[/h]January 3rd, 20202019 was the third warmest year (+0.44 deg. C) in the 41 year satellite record, after 2016 (+0.52 deg. C) and 1998 (+0.48 deg. C).
The Version 6.0 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for December, 2019 was +0.56 deg. C, statistically unchanged from the November value of +0.55 deg. C.
The yearly rankings over the 41-year satellite-based temperature record shows 2019 as the third warmest, behind 2016 and 1998.
The linear warming trend since January, 1979 remains at +0.13 C/decade (+0.11 C/decade over the global-averaged oceans, and +0.18 C/decade over global-averaged land).
 
Captain Adverse said:
Well, I do believe that there are some interesting climate trends I've personally observed over the years without support of this data.

Still, the key words are "On Record."

Detailed records didn't begin until the 1850's. About 150 years or so ago.
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Even then, accurate temp readings across the world didnt really come about until the 1970's, when weather satellites began orbiting the earth. So the records we have are pitifully small, and definitely not enough to form an understanding on how climate changes long term.
 
Visbek said:
Surprise! Well, not really. 2019 was the second hottest year on record, and the 2010s was the single hottest decade on record. Copernicus confirmed it earlier today. I am confident NOAA, Hadley etc will concur soon.

2019 Was Second Hottest Year on Record - The New York Times

‘Alarming Signs’ As 2019 Officially World’s Second-Warmest Year On Record
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That's right, since records have been kept since the 19th century there's
been a warming trend of about a degree in all that time. It should come
as no surprise that recent years will have been the warmest. It's troubling
that the keepers of the official records don't seem to be able to keep their
hands off the historical data, so it's rather difficult for the average person
to really know just exactly how much warmer it is. Here's the record of
changes that NASA's GISTEMP has made to their Land Ocean Temperature
Index [LOTI]so far in 2019:

Jan Feb Mar Apr May .Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
843 370 481 633 1359 566 281 400 674 284 284
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Over 6,000 changes so far in 2019 and all of the changes to entries since
2001 have been bumped up. This goes on month after month as a steady
drone and over the years, here's what that looks like:

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Threegoofs said:
Nope. From Gavin a Schmidt, head of NASA GISS.

But I’m sure it makes you feel better to pretend otherwise.
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Yet still no link lol
 
Threegoofs said:
Nope. From Gavin a Schmidt, head of NASA GISS.

But I’m sure it makes you feel better to pretend otherwise.
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Suuuure I believe you..... :lol:


No link means you have no credibility over that suspicious chart.
 
Visbek said:
Surprise! Well, not really. 2019 was the second hottest year on record, and the 2010s was the single hottest decade on record. Copernicus confirmed it earlier today. I am confident NOAA, Hadley etc will concur soon.

2019 Was Second Hottest Year on Record - The New York Times

‘Alarming Signs’ As 2019 Officially World’s Second-Warmest Year On Record
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Saw that coming. Meanwhile January temps here in Ohio, at the start of 2020, match what they were back when I lived in South Carolina; gonna be 70 on Saturday.
 
Visbek said:
Surprise! Well, not really. 2019 was the second hottest year on record, and the 2010s was the single hottest decade on record. Copernicus confirmed it earlier today. I am confident NOAA, Hadley etc will concur soon.

2019 Was Second Hottest Year on Record - The New York Times

‘Alarming Signs’ As 2019 Officially World’s Second-Warmest Year On Record
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No surprise at all.

As the populations increase, so does land area and density. This reduces evaporation cooling. Meteorological stations nearby see this loss of cooling as a heat increase.

Again, no surprise.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Well, I do believe that there are some interesting climate trends I've personally observed over the years without support of this data.

Still, the key words are "On Record."

Detailed records didn't begin until the 1850's. About 150 years or so ago.

The Earth has been around for 4,500,000,000 years.

Thus "alarming signs" is relative, as I am sure there have been quite a few "alarming trends" over the millennia. ;)
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Yet we have no shortage of Chicken Littles.
 
Visbek said:
Sigh

I knew that particular denier nonsense would be coming.

Climate scientists have NEVER said “hottest in all of Earth’s history.” And yes, “hottest on record” it is relevant, because it is a continuation of a trend that is over 100+ years now, and it’s a result of human activity.
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So you agree we have survived hotter times. Right? Why worry about this to the point of forcing unnecessary changes in our way of life?
 
PoS said:
Even then, accurate temp readings across the world didnt really come about until the 1970's, when weather satellites began orbiting the earth. So the records we have are pitifully small, and definitely not enough to form an understanding on how climate changes long term.
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Even those are not accurate. They have their own calibration challenged with depth of observation, and long term drift.
 
Lord of Planar said:
No surprise at all.

As the populations increase, so does land area and density. This reduces evaporation cooling. Meteorological stations nearby see this loss of cooling as a heat increase.

Again, no surprise.
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No. It’s actually getting ****ing warmer, LP.
 
calamity said:
No. It’s actually getting ****ing warmer, LP.
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How do you know?

Because the prophets of AGW tell you so?

In reality, I agree it's getting warmer. But how much of that can you factually state is coming from just greenhouse gas emissions? There are other factors that I contend are stronger. You know it. We have discussed this before. You however deny the fact that other factors are in play besides CO2.
 
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