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US green economy generates $1.3 trillion and employs millions, new study finds

So that still doesn’t explain how you are any different than the anti-vaxers who find the dissidents on that topic more persuasive. How do you know that this is not based on some psychological need and desire to believe, rather than a keen and seasoned ability to actually, objectively, and critically evaluate the actual science?

Climate skepticism has a sound scientific basis.
 
Unless you can tell us some reason why you think your arguments are less absurd, I am not sure how you can dismiss the scientific “dissidents” on all those other areas you dismiss as ridiculous.

I can find dissident “scientists” who question the mainstream scientific positions of their colleagues on everything from vaccine recommendations to how aliens actually built the pyramids.

Climate skepticism has a sound scientific basis.
 
So that still doesn’t explain . . .

There's a lack of education. . . . .

Distinguished Princeton Physicist Likens Climate Movement To “Madness”…A “Bizarre Environmental Cult”

By P Gosselin on 8. December 2019
At COP 25 in Madrid, Princeton physicist and former President Trump advisor Prof. em. William Happer spoke on the “false pretenses of a climate emergency” and called the climate protection movement a “bizarre environmental cult”, “absurd” and “madness”.The distinguished professor said, “It’s too bad we are here on false pretenses, wasting our time talking about a non-existent climate emergency.”
“Bizarre environmental cult”
Some 25,000 delegates have flown into Madrid to express their panic over a perceived climate emergency and to pressure governments to take radical actions to profoundly alter human behavior.
Happer added: “I hope sooner or later enough people will recognize the phoniness of this bizarre environmental cult and bring it to an end.”
In his talk, Happer warned leading politicians against viewing combatting CO2 as a religion, and cautioned it could end up badly when millions of people become obsessed with a single delusion and become stark-raving mad at climate. He said there’s been “so much brainwashing that it’s going to be difficult to bring people back to reality.”
The distinguished Princeton professor said the focus needs to be on pollution, and not CO2, and that solar energy and wind energy blight the environment and don’t work very well.
Only very little impact on climate

On the physics of CO2 trapping heat, Happer presents a CO2 chart and suggests that doubling the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere will have very little impact on climate and that he “can guarantee that no one who knows anything about science can dispute this curve. That’s the truth.”
“Absolute madness”
Taking action based on the curves that show CO2 has little effect, Happer says this is “absolute madness.”
The Princeton physicist also believes the climate models greatly exaggerate the warming and that the trace gas is in fact beneficial to the planet. Today atmospheric concentrations are extremely low compared to previous geological times:

The extra CO2 recently added into the atmosphere has in fact led to a greening of the planet, Happer shows.
“Phony consensus”
Next Happer called the often claimed 97% consensus among scientists “phony” and that science is determined by observation, “not votes”. “Scientific consensus is often wrong,” Happer showed.
Happer summarized that CO2’s impact has been exaggerated “by a factor of 2 to 4”, and that overall a little extra CO2 in the atmosphere is beneficial to vegetation and agriculture.
The whole CO2/climate worry “is absolutely absurd. It’s a cult,” Happer concludes.
 
We know climate change happens regardless of our input to the environment.

Seawalls that promote the general welfare not landwalls that don't!
 
No I haven’t read an actual paper. It’s a lot of gobbledygook to me, even though I work in science myself. This is outside of my expertise.

Have you read all the papers on why vaccines are effective? Or why lowering blood pressure decreases heart attack rates? How do you know those are not cherry picked?

Why do the conspiracy theories only apply to this particular area of science?

If it's gobbledygook to you, then you shouldn't be here debating things when other people tell you what to say. It just exposes your ignorance on the topic.
 
Climate skepticism has a sound scientific basis.

Says who? WUWT?

You can keep repeating that to yourself like some kind of mantra, but that doesn't make it true.

Percentage-wise, there is no more support for it in the scientific community than there is for the anti-vaxer movement or creationism.
 
If it's gobbledygook to you, then you shouldn't be here debating things when other people tell you what to say. It just exposes your ignorance on the topic.

We can't all be experts on everything. When I am not, I defer to the experts, especially when there is such overwhelming consensus among them.

What's funny is you thinking you see through the ruse of all these specialists in areas from chemistry and physics, to oceanology, biology, and public health. That's laughable.
 
Responding to scientific presentation with ad hominem. Sadly typical.

Compared to manic snowflake blog spam, everything is typical. Enjoy exploiting an old man off his rocker and outside his field.
 
Says who? WUWT?

You can keep repeating that to yourself like some kind of mantra, but that doesn't make it true.

Percentage-wise, there is no more support for it in the scientific community than there is for the anti-vaxer movement or creationism.

Percentages don't matter a bit, and I see you could not resist bringing up anti-vaxxers or creationism. Goodbye.
 
Percentages don't matter a bit, and I see you could not resist bringing up anti-vaxxers or creationism. Goodbye.

There is nothing else different, other than that you personally "like" this particular crazy idea more than the others.
 
There is nothing else different, other than that you personally "like" this particular crazy idea more than the others.

The difference is there is no conspiracy. You should ask yourself why you need to believe in this imaginary phenomenon. Goodbye again.
 
The difference is there is no conspiracy. You should ask yourself why you need to believe in this imaginary phenomenon. Goodbye again.


I didn't say it was a conspiracy. I just said it was a crazy idea.

But anyway, alright man. Have fun.
 
The models from 50 years ago predicted how the weather would change with CO2 increases. They were accurate.
The newer models suggest that there may be other factors that come into play as the CO2 continues to increase which were not in the original model.
We are not curbing the CO2 output- we are increasing it. However amazing you think our current advances in technology are, it's clearly not cutting it. Maybe it's because large countries like India and China are becoming increasingly industrialized, despite the advances in technology. Whatever it is, the net total human-generated CO2 output is increasing.

Whatever all this means, none of it means we can just blow this whole thing off (no pun intended). :)
If 2XCO2 ECS is indeed 2C, we can simply ignore it, we have other very real problems to address rather than the made up ones!
 
If 2XCO2 ECS is indeed 2C, we can simply ignore it, we have other very real problems to address rather than the made up ones!

That's the way I feel.

We already have too many authoritarian policies made into law.
 
Lol. We have cyclical Ice Ages regardless of our input to the environment. You seem to be less informed.

We might be able to change the tipping point. Just ask Tipper Gore.
 
Lol. We have cyclical Ice Ages regardless of our input to the environment. You seem to be less informed.

That science ignorant/denying trope is so worn out it's become a joke on itself.
 
Percentages don't matter a bit, and I see you could not resist bringing up anti-vaxxers or creationism. Goodbye.

Climate deniers, creationists, antivaxxers, aliens-among-us-ers---you're all one of a type. That you can't or won't see that tells us everything.
 
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There is nothing else different, other than that you personally "like" this particular crazy idea more than the others.

"Like" doesn't even come close to it. Devoted as to a religious belief rather than rationality is what it is.
 
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