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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    I really don’t understand why the right wingers and flat earth sort still fool with this nonsense.

    The effects of global warming are manifesting themselves around the world now, and they’ve gone from theoretical “what ifs”, to concrete realities that are forcing us to adapt infrastructure to it already (at least in the countries that can afford it).

    Fortunately, technology is coming to the rescue, and costs have been driven down to the level that investors feel confident with.

    Renewable energy is the fastest growing segment of the electrical power market in most of the world. Certainly in Europe and the US, where renewables counted for 100% of market growth, AND covered the decline in high fixed cost large scale power plants whether fueled by coal or nuclear.

    Sorry, but go on ranting about global warming being a pocket protector conspiracy all you want.

    But the world has moved on.
    Russia has begun to use the NW Passage. Clear sign that the earth has warmed significantly while the numbnuts fiddle.

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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

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    Russia has begun to use the NW Passage. Clear sign that the earth has warmed significantly while the numbnuts fiddle.

    Maersk explores Arctic shipping route with Russia
    All sizzle, no steak.

    ". . . Maersk, which offers shipping on its own vessels and in cooperation with a number of other carriers and providers, added that it has no current plans to deploy Maersk vessels in commercial service along the route. . . ."
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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Nonsense.



    It doesn't take a genius to see this is a problem.
    Classic misrepresentation. Here's why.


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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    I really don’t understand why the right wingers and flat earth sort still fool with this nonsense.

    The effects of global warming are manifesting themselves around the world now, and they’ve gone from theoretical “what ifs”, to concrete realities that are forcing us to adapt infrastructure to it already (at least in the countries that can afford it).

    Fortunately, technology is coming to the rescue, and costs have been driven down to the level that investors feel confident with.

    Renewable energy is the fastest growing segment of the electrical power market in most of the world. Certainly in Europe and the US, where renewables counted for 100% of market growth, AND covered the decline in high fixed cost large scale power plants whether fueled by coal or nuclear.

    Sorry, but go on ranting about global warming being a pocket protector conspiracy all you want.

    But the world has moved on.
    I don't understand why alarmists believe that tripe? There is only a minor warming agreed upon. CO2 is not the cause of anything but minimal warming. Aerosols and land use changes are causing more problems than CO2.

    You guys have been lied to and you believe it.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Nonsense.



    It doesn't take a genius to see this is a problem.
    It doesn't take a genius to post a link to it and ignore the many changes in that PISS poor chart, it is FRAUD!

    Notice they nearly erased the cooling phase from the 1940's to the 1970's?

    It isn't a problem either.

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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Stupid is as stupid does.

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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I don't understand why alarmists believe that tripe? There is only a minor warming agreed upon. CO2 is not the cause of anything but minimal warming. Aerosols and land use changes are causing more problems than CO2.

    You guys have been lied to and you believe it.

    Sorry, but I’ve been to enough conferences and know enough civil engineers to know that sea water rise is real. The spread of previously semi tropical insects and diseases to non tropical areas is real. Regardless of the cause.

    The global warming denial industry has always been a creature of the fossil fuel and nuclear industries.

    And the investors have moved on.

    There have been no new coal fired Or nuclear power plants ordered in the United States in this century. And there will be none.

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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    Sorry, but I’ve been to enough conferences and know enough civil engineers to know that sea water rise is real. The spread of previously semi tropical insects and diseases to non tropical areas is real. Regardless of the cause.

    The global warming denial industry has always been a creature of the fossil fuel and nuclear industries.
    Yes, the oceans will rise, and always rise.

    Besides thermal expansion, there is silt from rivers displacing the water. The oceans are likely not yet in equilibrium with the solar TSI since it's 1700's levels, and likely still warming from the sun.

    there is dust falling on all parts of the earth, and the dust falling into the oceans displace it.

    there is glacier melt, but if there is a net loss of ice... That's still debatable.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    Sorry, but I’ve been to enough conferences and know enough civil engineers to know that sea water rise is real. The spread of previously semi tropical insects and diseases to non tropical areas is real. Regardless of the cause.

    The global warming denial industry has always been a creature of the fossil fuel and nuclear industries.

    And the investors have moved on.

    There have been no new coal fired Or nuclear power plants ordered in the United States in this century. And there will be none.


    It has got a bit warmer.

    The sea level has risen a bit and will continue to do so for the near future, the next few decades.

    The degree of trouble from this will be utterly tiny. Less expensive for any place on earth than the traffic lights for any place that has them.

    Take a pitch at it;


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    Re: The reason global warming is a political farce

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Nonsense.



    It doesn't take a genius to see this is a problem.
    But apparently actually saying what trouble is at all likely to happen at any actual place on earth is a problem.

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