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    Re: Climate change converts reveal what changed their minds

    Quote Originally Posted by Surface Detail View Post
    What's the point of me presenting evidence if you're just going to ignore it? This is the first paragraph of the impacts paper:

    "The effects of climate change on crop and terrestrial food production are evident in several regions of the world (high confidence). Negative impacts of climate trends have been more common than positive ones. Positive trends are evident in some high-latitude regions (high confidence). Since AR4, there have been several periods of rapid food and cereal price increases following climate extremes in key producing regions, indicating a sensitivity of current markets to climate extremes, among other factors. Several of these climate extremes were made more likely as the result of anthropogenic emissions (medium confidence)."

    So there's your first problem. More people in poor countries will starve as a consequence of more crop failures due to increasing climate variability.

    Whether you think this is the worst problem is presumably a matter of personal opinion.
    Sorry, but steady yield increases say otherwise.
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    Re: Climate change converts reveal what changed their minds

    Quote Originally Posted by Surface Detail View Post
    What's the point of me presenting evidence if you're just going to ignore it? This is the first paragraph of the impacts paper:

    "The effects of climate change on crop and terrestrial food production are evident in several regions of the world (high confidence). Negative impacts of climate trends have been more common than positive ones. Positive trends are evident in some high-latitude regions (high confidence). Since AR4, there have been several periods of rapid food and cereal price increases following climate extremes in key producing regions, indicating a sensitivity of current markets to climate extremes, among other factors. Several of these climate extremes were made more likely as the result of anthropogenic emissions (medium confidence)."

    So there's your first problem. More people in poor countries will starve as a consequence of more crop failures due to increasing climate variability.

    Whether you think this is the worst problem is presumably a matter of personal opinion.
    So you think that increased temperatures will result in less food being porduced?

    Really?

    Where do you think that is true?

    Remember that Saudi Arabia can grow wheat better than America, per acre, if they have enough water for it. Palm oil is of course far more productive than wheat. Do you think Palm oil will grow less well in warmer temperatures?

    Can you cite any actual science that supports this in any credible way?

    Come on it's drivel!!!

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    Re: Climate change converts reveal what changed their minds

    Quote Originally Posted by Surface Detail View Post
    The evidence has been presented, here: Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis

    And the likely consequences have been presented, here: AR5 Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability

    If you choose to simply deny the evidence and warnings of the scientists, then there's little I can do to help you.
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    Re: Climate change converts reveal what changed their minds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    Just propaganda.

    Those who have thought about and come to the conclusion that it is drivel are immune to the idea.

    Also the atheist lecturing trail does not really pay may bills. Far too many of us that are able to do it and no suckers to milk unlike the religious version where you get 10% of their entire income when you catch one.
    Sure, but I found it to be a good family movie, and I'm not religious.
    The left says the right is full of racists and bigots and have no tolerance. Nobody from the right organizes interference with gay pride parades, or other leftist events. The left however always has a group interfering with events organized by the right. Who are the tolerant ones I ask? Most certainly not the left.

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    Re: Climate change converts reveal what changed their minds

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Sure, but I found it to be a good family movie, and I'm not religious.
    I think I'm more of a reactionist about drivel being pumped at me...

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