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At Last -- An Actual Climate Conspiracy

Jack Hays said:
It's all in the link. If you've lost the ability to understand the problem then there's nothing I can do.
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One quote. Quote one goddamn thing from the link you have a problem with.
 
Jack Hays said:
They did not disclose their participation to their readers, and of course the CJR will make excuses -- they coordinated the effort.
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“Nowhere in the lengthy “exclusive” is any non-public information revealed, unless you count fresh but empty quotes from people like Myron Ebell and Steven Milloy, whose own fossil fuel funding as part of a decades-long effort to influence public opinion in favor of their corporate backers is of course not disclosed in this piece about how journalists should have disclosed a non-financial relationship to a temporary, ad hoc group of other journalists.”
 
Deuce said:
You literally linked a website disclosing the coordination.
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I mean seriously. Am I taking crazy pills here? He starts off with a claim this is hidden coordination when he links a website to an organization publicly organizing this.
 
Deuce said:
You literally linked a website disclosing the coordination.
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Yes. You wanted evidence of coordination. The problem is not there. The problem is the outlets not disclosing their participation to their readers.
 
Napoleon said:
“Nowhere in the lengthy “exclusive” is any non-public information revealed, unless you count fresh but empty quotes from people like Myron Ebell and Steven Milloy, whose own fossil fuel funding as part of a decades-long effort to influence public opinion in favor of their corporate backers is of course not disclosed in this piece about how journalists should have disclosed a non-financial relationship to a temporary, ad hoc group of other journalists.”
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Undisclosed coordination turns journalism into propaganda.
 
Jack Hays said:
Already did. Undisclosed coordination.
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You did not quote anything from the link in post #20. Furthermore, the link in post #20 literally is disclosing this coordination.
 
Jack Hays said:
Yes. You wanted evidence of coordination. The problem is not there. The problem is the outlets not disclosing their participation to their readers.
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Participation in what? What has been coordinated? Specifically.
 
Deuce said:
You did not quote anything from the link in post #20. Furthermore, the link in post #20 literally is disclosing this coordination.
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". . . BuzzFeed and The Huffington Post were among the major outlets that did not disclose the coordination. . . . "
 
Deuce said:
Participation in what? What has been coordinated? Specifically.
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". . . Over 250 news outlets and journalists partnered with Columbia University School of Journalism’s flagship magazine to shape control of “climate crisis” coverage in the lead up to the United Nations climate conference. The coverage-coordination initiative included directing how much time, space and prominence should be devoted to the coverage, and asking that climate “news” be added to seemingly unrelated stories. . . ."
 
Jack Hays said:
". . . BuzzFeed and The Huffington Post were among the major outlets that did not disclose the coordination. . . . "
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This is not found in the link in post #20. This is found in the OP. Read more carefully.
 
Jack Hays said:
". . . Over 250 news outlets and journalists partnered with Columbia University School of Journalism’s flagship magazine to shape control of “climate crisis” coverage in the lead up to the United Nations climate conference. The coverage-coordination initiative included directing how much time, space and prominence should be devoted to the coverage, and asking that climate “news” be added to seemingly unrelated stories. . . ."
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Again, from the wrong link. This claim is from the Daily Caller. I reject the Daily Caller the same way you reject certain pro-AGW sources entirely.
 
Deuce said:
Again, from the wrong link. This claim is from the Daily Caller. I reject the Daily Caller the same way you reject certain pro-AGW sources entirely.
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Too bad. Your prejudice is your prison.
 
Jack Hays said:
Too bad. Your prejudice is your prison.
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:lamo

I asked you to support the claims. You linked another source, and that source doesn't contain anything supporting the claim. You lied, tried to claim that link in #20 supported your conspiracy theory. You tried to paste quotes pretending they were from that link. Caught in the lie, you post this.

If you have nothing else...
 
Jack Hays said:
The outlets did not disclose their participation to their readers.
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The Daily Caller didn’t disclose its collaboration with fossil fuel lobbyists in the writing of this article. That is unethical. Coordinating with other journalists on reporting topics is not.
 
Deuce said:
:lamo

I asked you to support the claims. You linked another source, and that source doesn't contain anything supporting the claim. You lied, tried to claim that link in #20 supported your conspiracy theory. You tried to paste quotes pretending they were from that link. Caught in the lie, you post this.

If you have nothing else...
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From the link in #20. I await your apology.

[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]MORE THAN 170 NEWS OUTLETS[/FONT] from around the world with a combined audience of hundreds of millions of people have now signed up for Covering Climate Now, a project co-founded by CJR and The Nation aimed at strengthening the media’s focus on the climate crisis.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]All outlets have committed to running a week’s worth of climate coverage in the lead-up to the United Nations Climate Action Summit in New York on Sept. 23. At that meeting, the world’s governments will submit plans to meet the Paris Agreement’s pledge to keep global temperature rise “well below” 2 degrees Celsius. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“The need for solid climate coverage has never been greater,” said Kyle Pope, CJR’s editor and publisher. “We’re proud that so many organizations from across the US and around the world have joined with Covering Climate Now to do our duty as journalists—to report this hugely important story.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Covering Climate Now now ranks as one of the most ambitious efforts ever to organize the world’s media around a single coverage topic. In addition to The Guardian—the lead media partner in Covering Climate Now—CJR and The Nation are joined by major newspapers, magazines, television and radio broadcasters, and global news and photo agencies in North and South America, Europe, Africa, and Asia. . . . . [/FONT]

Covering Climate Now signs on over 170 news outlets ...


Columbia Journalism Review - The voice of journalism › covering_climate_now › covering-climate-now-170-...



Aug 28, 2019 - Covering Climate Now signs on over 170 news outlets ... of people have now signed up for Covering Climate Now, a project co-founded by ...
 
Napoleon said:
The Daily Caller didn’t disclose its collaboration with fossil fuel lobbyists in the writing of this article. That is unethical. Coordinating with other journalists on reporting topics is not.
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All affiliations are disclosed. Don't try to deflect.
 
Jack Hays said:
From the link in #20. I await your apology.

[FONT="][FONT="]MORE THAN 170 NEWS OUTLETS[/FONT] from around the world with a combined audience of hundreds of millions of people have now signed up for Covering Climate Now, a project co-founded by CJR and The Nation aimed at strengthening the media’s focus on the climate crisis.[/FONT]
[FONT="][I]All outlets have committed to running a week’s worth of climate coverage in the lead-up to the United Nations Climate Action Summit in New York on Sept. 23. At that meeting, the world’s governments will submit plans to meet the Paris Agreement’s pledge to keep global temperature rise “well below” 2 degrees Celsius. [/I][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]“The need for solid climate coverage has never been greater,” said Kyle Pope, CJR’s editor and publisher. “We’re proud that so many organizations from across the US and around the world have joined with Covering Climate Now to do our duty as journalists—to report this hugely important story.”[/FONT]
[FONT="][I]Covering Climate Now now ranks as one of the most ambitious efforts ever to organize the world’s media around a single coverage topic. In addition to [I]The Guardian—the lead media partner in Covering Climate Now—CJR and [I]The Nation are joined by major newspapers, magazines, television and radio broadcasters, and global news and photo agencies in North and South America, Europe, Africa, and Asia. . . . . [/I][/I][/I][/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=arial][URL="https://www.cjr.org/covering_climate_now/covering-climate-now-170-outlets.php"]Covering Climate Now signs on over 170 news outlets ...


[/URL]Columbia Journalism Review - The voice of journalism › covering_climate_now › covering-climate-now-170-...


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Aug 28, 2019 - Covering Climate Now signs on over 170 news outlets ... of people have now signed up for Covering Climate Now, a project co-founded by ...
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Please. You posted a quote claiming it was from this link. It's not. I await your apology.
 
Hamish Howl said:
It's the Daily Caller. :lol:

What else has to be said?
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Do you dispute their findings? If so, which, and with what evidence?

This is a story of biased media pushing a specific agenda without letting their readers know of their intent to do so...


And your response is to accuse the one bringing this fact to light of being a biased media outlet pushing a specific agenda...cept, unlike daily caller, you've brought zero to back up your claim.
 
At Last -- An Actual Climate Conspiracy

I didn't open every link to see if the one below has already been posted on this thread,
but I think it's the original that was posted by Kip Hansen on WattsUpWithThat back in
early June:

Transforming the media’s coverage of the climate crisis​
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How can you get involved?

Send us an email. Tell us who you are and why you want to be part of this.
We’ll post a running list of the people and organizations that have signed on,
along with contact information.

If you are a journalist, here’s what we’re looking for: Can you and your news
outlet sign as a partners of Covering Climate Now, and build the network by
encouraging others to do the same? Can you commit to the week of focused
climate coverage in September? Can you share your climate content with
other outlets that may lack your resources? Can you help us organize a
conference on covering climate change in your region, and encourage your
media counterparts to join us?

If you are a scientist, will you be a resource journalists can call when reporting
a climate story? Will you share your expertise with Covering Climate Now as
we prepare our briefing materials for journalists on the climate beat? Will you
appear at any of the conferences we will be organizing in media markets
around the country and abroad? Will you urge other scientists to join these efforts?

If you are an advocate or a government or business official, will you be a
resource for journalists reporting a climate story? Will you share your
observations for our handbook? Will you appear at any of the conferences
we will be organizing, and spread the word about our efforts?

If you’re a private citizen, will you work with your local news outlet to think
through how to improve their climate coverage, and organize other people
in your community to do the same?
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What's my take on all this?

Yes No
[X] [ ] Free Speech
[ ] [X] Journalism
[X] [ ] Propaganda
[?] [ ] Conspiracy

Conspiracy: An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Subversive: The definition of subversive is something that is trying to destroy or
overthrow something like a government or an idea.
 
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Jack Hays said:
". . . BuzzFeed and The Huffington Post were among the major outlets that did not disclose the coordination. . . . "
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Coordination does not necessarily mean propaganda in the day of news aggregation. I guess you would need to be a little more concrete to raise an eyebrow as far as I am concerned.
 
Deuce said:
Please. You posted a quote claiming it was from this link. It's not. I await your apology.
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At no point did I claim any quote except that in #44 was from the "Covering Climate Now" link. Your claim is false.
 
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